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32. Dead men tell no tales

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 01:42 PM

Apr 2012

And that's why SYG will always be a "get out of jail free" card for murderers. (unless there is video or something else to prove the shooter lied in his excuse why he felt in great bodily harm)

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This is why we must prevail in the Zimmerman SYG argument. [View all] Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 OP

I also find it despicable that tv stations are giving Z's lawyers, and father a platform to monmouth Apr 2012 #1

when defense lawyers KNOW they have no defense... Evasporque Apr 2012 #2

Why is it taking so long? Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #5

The autopsy is sealed until charges are brought and discovery begins csziggy Apr 2012 #6

The funeral director who prepared Trayvon's body said he was shot in the chest. Kaleva Apr 2012 #8

He also stated that due to the autopsy, he was unable to determine whether... Spazito Apr 2012 #10

You are correct. Kaleva Apr 2012 #14

3 sides bongbong Apr 2012 #3

The NRA will be pushing a split message.... Junkdrawer Apr 2012 #4

Good point bongbong Apr 2012 #12

Zimmerman's first lawyer said it was not a SYG case csziggy Apr 2012 #7

You are making assumptions without facts ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #18

asdf bongbong Apr 2012 #26

You are ignoring the key issue, whether or not it was justifiable homicide ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #29

Wow! bongbong Apr 2012 #34

It still has to meet the reasonable man standard ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #38

What if it did turn out to be a hate crime. Would they have been stuck with manslaughter? dkf Apr 2012 #35

I agree... Spazito Apr 2012 #9

It's not based on SYG Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #11

Really? bongbong Apr 2012 #13

Your interpretation is flawed ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #16

asdf bongbong Apr 2012 #27

I suggest you read all of them ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #30

I did bongbong Apr 2012 #33

I did bongbong Apr 2012 #49

I beg to differ Kaleva Apr 2012 #19

Dead men tell no tales bongbong Apr 2012 #32

You've got it quite wrong Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #21

The way I'm reading these statutes, Trayvon Martin had a right to defend himself. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #22

Yes, he absolutely did if Zimmerman attacked him. Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #28

You can post all the cut-n-paste you want bongbong Apr 2012 #31

The dead man dialed 911 Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #43

Now this is the kind of information we need more of vs the crap the media feeds us. dkf Apr 2012 #36

The Police Chief who, with the SA at the time, cited SYG as the reason... Spazito Apr 2012 #15

Even though his lead investigator wanted to arrest Zimmerman ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #17

There often is conflict between the police and a PA's office in these matters. Kaleva Apr 2012 #20

Convenient Out for the Chief. BiggJawn Apr 2012 #24

Code section 776.032 Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #25

What would be needed for the Feds to charge him? dkf Apr 2012 #37

I think it will be grounded in the evidence Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #39

What kinds of things would have violated Martin's civil rights? dkf Apr 2012 #40

Being shot for no reason n/t Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #48

More detailed info Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #50

Great stuff. Thanks...I really appreciate the education. dkf Apr 2012 #51

I don't think his motives were racist driven at all. Zax2me Apr 2012 #23

I have mixed feelings on SYG laws Dilldoe Apr 2012 #41

You hit on why I don't think SYG applies to Zimmerman's actions. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2012 #46

I doubt that SYG is going to have anything to do with the outcome of the case one way or another slackmaster Apr 2012 #42

Except that it already has. It was the reason given for no arrest. morningfog Apr 2012 #44

That may not matter in the long run slackmaster Apr 2012 #45

Not being arrested initially could affect the entire case. morningfog Apr 2012 #47