Americas exceptional hypocrisy - some remember Iran Air flight 655 [View all]

[Fred Sanders]

Last edited Sat Jul 19, 2014, 03:14 PM - Edit history (3)

No apologies, no statement of responsibility, just excuses, America has shown how denial is done.

Nations without clean hands should not throw the first stones.

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The apparent shooting down of a Malaysia Airlines flight near the Russia-Ukraine border today, being blamed on Russian-backed separatists by Kiev, is a rare occurrence of civil aviation coming up against modern missiles. The USS Vincennes incident was another. Below are two pieces from the Monitor's coverage of that tragedy at the time. The first is from shortly after the attack on July 3, 1988, the second is a follow-up on the Navy's findings a month later.

(From the July 5, 1988 Christian Science Monitor by Warren Richey)

The Iranian commercial jetliner shot down Sunday over the Strait of Hormuz followed the same flight profile established by Iranian F-14 jets in recent days, according to a reliable source in the Gulf who asks not to named.

The source says the F-14s had a routine of approaching the US cruiser Vincennes, provoking a radioed warning, and then flying off in the week before the shootdown, the source says. The information suggests that previous Iranian jetfighter activity may have contributed to the identification by the US warship of the commercial jet as a fighter.

But it leaves unresolved the major question of why officers oh the state-of-the-art cruiser Vincennes were unable to distinguish between an F-14 fighter and a large, slow, commercial Airbus.

Commercial airliners throughout the world are equipped with special transponders that automatically identify them as nonbelligerent aircraft. The Iranian Airbus’s transponder was either out of order or switched off, according to US officials. And experts say that on a radar screen an Airbus at 7,000 feet appears little different than an F-14.

In addition, radar and electronic warfare technicians on the Vincennes detected “electronic emanations" that led them to believe the plane was an F-14 fighter.

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Sure, they switched off the transponder in a conflict zone, sure they did. You have to say that otherwise you are a criminal for ignoring it or not caring.

"State of the art" guided missile cruiser with more electronics and detection devices than you can possibly know, but.....oopsie?

http://news.yahoo.com/monitor-archives-shooting-down-iran-air-flight-655-184749961.html

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EDIT2:

Interesting comment I received:

On June 29th, 2014 - Russia was BRAGGING about the separatists capturing the Buk missile launcher

Google Chrome Translation:

http://rusvesna.su/news/1404041521

LIGHTNING: the sky over Donetsk - DNR commandos captured the garrison missile air defense forces

29.06.2014 - 15:32

In Donetsk, Donetsk Army Special Forces soldiers People's Republic captured the garrison of missile troops, anti-aircraft missile defense regiment number A-1402. In service parts are powerful air defense system of long-range detection and destruction of air targets.

The press service of the Interior Ministry of Ukraine in Donetsk region confirmed this information: "In Donetsk representatives" DNR "seized the military part number A-1402."

Military unit A1402 (Donetsk SAM regiment) formed in the village Alexeevka Belgorod-Dniester region Odessa region. In 2007, was made part of the redeployment of A1402 in Donetsk.

Donetsk missile regiment performs tasks for the protection of the eastern borders of the state and the protection of important industrial centers of Donbass.....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5263031