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JackBeck

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98. It's also amazing the contortions you will go through to avoid your unethical behavior.

Thu Apr 5, 2012, 10:31 PM

Apr 2012

And your inability to learn from this situation is frustrating, to say the least.

I provide services to many individuals who are survivors of sexual trauma, survival sex, substance use/abuse, and many others that engage in risky behaviors (notice how I never gave any identifiable characteristics?) and one of the first things that was drilled into our heads was confidentiality was to be respected at all times.

Unfortunately, your OP does not respect that cardinal rule.

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Let me tell you about a little girl my wife is treating. [View all] Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 OP

I'm glad your wife is there to help too... CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2012 #1

It's amazing what people will do to children. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #2

HIPAA suggests you shouldn't even know this. Lionessa Apr 2012 #3

Yeah, I know. Technically, she shouldn't even discuss this with me. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #7

No, not technically, completely. HIPAA! Lionessa Apr 2012 #11

Thank you for your concern. I'll await the lawsuit. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #12

For someone posting a supposedly "caring" OP, you're quite the cad Lionessa Apr 2012 #13

Attacking my wife will bring that out of me every time. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #15

Attack your wife, yeah, right, that causes you to think money costs? Lionessa Apr 2012 #17

Where exactly did you get that? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #19

Your reply to wife supposedly being attacked was, "I await the lawsuit." Lionessa Apr 2012 #21

Yes. I'm not scared of one. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #23

You have trouble following the topic, huh? Hopefully the others reading this thread Lionessa Apr 2012 #28

Be sure when you file your complaint that you remember: Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #32

Medical privacy is an ethical issue, if she and you don't have it, that's Lionessa Apr 2012 #18

I'm writing a letter to my congressman to have all medical studies removed from the internet. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #20

Not the same, they sign waivers. Did this girl? Lionessa Apr 2012 #24

So no doctor on DU can ever mention a patient? Feel free to file a complaint. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #27

Sorry, I have to jump in here and defend Snake Alchemist. Avalux Apr 2012 #40

Too much, the fact that he even knows is against HIPAA. Lionessa Apr 2012 #45

Not even a location. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #47

Exactly. HIPPA is not violated if identifying info is not given. alphafemale Apr 2012 #49

Uh, the correct term is HIPAA. blue neen Apr 2012 #53

Don't agree unapatriciated Apr 2012 #55

I agree. I was extremely uncomfortable reading the OP. FedUpWithIt All Apr 2012 #126

The doctor should not be discussing these cases with her husband. That's a HIPAA violation. yardwork Apr 2012 #129

These are the specific things HIPAA considers patient identifiers: The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2012 #73

+1 laundry_queen Apr 2012 #81

Exactly. There was no violatition in the OP. Period. nt alphafemale Apr 2012 #190

This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Apr 2012 #208

You're talking about us leftynyc Apr 2012 #147

You don't know that. Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #199

How rude Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2012 #204

People who participate in medical studies give their written consent. n/t demmiblue Apr 2012 #26

I've had doctor friends tell me that one of their patients had been diagnosed with cancer that day Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #29

I was specifically responding to your post regarding medical studies. n/t demmiblue Apr 2012 #34

... MrMickeysMom Apr 2012 #111

It's amazing that this person can't seem to understand this very simple Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #33

Please show me the guidelines for anonymous patient in anonymous location with anonymous provider. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #39

IMHO, that's it a bit of a stretch to say that mentioning HIPAA laws is an attack. blue neen Apr 2012 #22

Is every medical study that omits patients names a violation of HIPAA? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #25

Since you did not make your OP about a medical study, we won't have that discussion. blue neen Apr 2012 #36

I typed in anonymous patient in anonymous location with anonymous provider and could not find Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #38

You don't know the meaning of medical studies or HIPAA and can't find the definitions. blue neen Apr 2012 #41

Please point me to said guidelines. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #42

You should ask your imaginary wife. n/t demmiblue Apr 2012 #44

That all you got? ROFL. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #50

That is all I need. ROFL. demmiblue Apr 2012 #52

I wear this ring for the chicks. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #54

Nose Rings Don't Count Snake n/t HangOnKids Apr 2012 #57

I tried to convince her that it would be enough. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #58

Oh shite! Now I know why your name is familiar. demmiblue Apr 2012 #61

Snake Alchemist = Orochimaru Art_from_Ark Apr 2012 #101

Does he have a son named Lukemaru? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #157

BAM HangOnKids Apr 2012 #56

I have confidence that you can find them. blue neen Apr 2012 #46

Since you brought them up, please feel free to back it up. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #48

In fact, I'm not the person who brought them up on this thread. blue neen Apr 2012 #59

So you can't find them? Good to know. Thanks! nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #62

You couldn't be more wrong. blue neen Apr 2012 #64

Cards on the table. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #68

Royal Flush. blue neen Apr 2012 #71

This is blackjack. Thanks for playing. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #72

There's no such thing as anonymity on the web. caseymoz Apr 2012 #140

Go for it. Let me know what you find. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #141

Anyone curious. I don't really want to know you. nt caseymoz Apr 2012 #152

Not true and I challenge anyone to try. Rex Apr 2012 #174

Not TV caseymoz Apr 2012 #177

Medical studies have procedures in place caseymoz Apr 2012 #143

As you pointed out, anyone can find out anything once it's on the the web. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #144

No, that's not what I said. caseymoz Apr 2012 #154

Let's go to the tape! Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #158

Where do you see the words caseymoz Apr 2012 #175

These don't count? Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #176

No. I said "anyone who's curious enough." caseymoz Apr 2012 #181

A distinction without a difference. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #194

You know that claim is wrong. caseymoz Apr 2012 #198

This message was self-deleted by its author Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #155

I agree with Lionessa unapatriciated Apr 2012 #35

I'll let you in on a secret. Doctors and nurses also discuss their patients with their spouses. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #37

I will let you in on a secret. unapatriciated Apr 2012 #51

Bull fucking shit... MrMickeysMom Apr 2012 #112

I was responding to knowing that some medical personnel.... unapatriciated Apr 2012 #200

It was a snark towards the person you responded to... MrMickeysMom Apr 2012 #202

We are talking in circles. unapatriciated Apr 2012 #205

"We" are having a disagreement... MrMickeysMom Apr 2012 #207

aren't you a peach. dionysus Apr 2012 #30

Well it successfully derailed the thread redqueen Apr 2012 #60

I guess that was the intention all along. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #63

Since that poster was not the only one who mentioned it, I'd say... blue neen Apr 2012 #65

Plenty do not want to confront the connection between women's abuse and the sex industry. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #66

+1. nt seabeyond Apr 2012 #74

Yes, and many of the posters on this thread are not those people. blue neen Apr 2012 #78

no. i do not know that. seabeyond Apr 2012 #84

Well, then maybe you could take the time to check out some of the posters' previous posts. blue neen Apr 2012 #86

i think when addressing this issue, there is so much of reality ignored seabeyond Apr 2012 #90

I have no problem with the issue you raise. unapatriciated Apr 2012 #75

Please refer to Veleveteen Ocelot's post above. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #76

Of course. redqueen Apr 2012 #70

It has been suggested. unapatriciated Apr 2012 #79

Please refer to Veleveteen Ocelot's post above. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #80

Oh, bullshit... MrMickeysMom Apr 2012 #110

Hippa is mzmolly Apr 2012 #119

My company specializes in testing IT systems against HIPAA compliance Fawke Em Apr 2012 #201

I don't know what is a violation or what isn't JonLP24 Apr 2012 #209

I'm glad you brought that up. caseymoz Apr 2012 #182

If they have their heads on straight, is the OP's wife likely to see them in the first place? eridani Apr 2012 #197

During the prenatal period, parents should be strongly encouraged JDPriestly Apr 2012 #4

Wow, great suggestion. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #8

When I lived in a small town in a European country and had single-payer, JDPriestly Apr 2012 #189

Its sad how long it lingers, and how it manifests. redqueen Apr 2012 #5

I had forgotten about that. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #9

So difficult even to read about those young abused children.. nenagh Apr 2012 #6

She is something else. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Apr 2012 #43

I've read that the vast, vast majority of strippers come from abuse backgrounds. Arugula Latte Apr 2012 #14

When I was in Japan they had train cars that were women-only due to gropers. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #16

Sexual harrassment starts in elementary school. redqueen Apr 2012 #31

Here's a fantastic idea: LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #67

Somehow it's always an "expression of freedom" when a man is the one benefitting. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #69

I'm not a man. LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #77

+1. ceile Apr 2012 #163

Of all the things for people to get mad at you about... sudopod Apr 2012 #82

Thanks. Weird contingent that rolled in here that seem to advocate Super HIPAA. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #83

Seven Tips to Avoid HIPAA Violations in Social Media: blue neen Apr 2012 #85

Please refer to Veleveteen Ocelot's post above. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #87

I'm already aware of those rules. Thank you. blue neen Apr 2012 #88

Seems fairly specific and well laid out. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #89

Maybe you could help your wife by taking the HIPAA Certification Course. blue neen Apr 2012 #91

Think I'll go with the actual guidelines. You can feel free to list the ones I am violating. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #92

Uh, the HIPAA certification course tests you on the "Actual Guidelines". blue neen Apr 2012 #93

You've been given the specific list. Lettered and delineated. And you can't name a single one. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #94

Game. Set. Match....to Snake Alchemist. n/t PassingFair Apr 2012 #131

Protecting abuse victims is not a game. blue neen Apr 2012 #132

Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #133

Edit history is still accessible, with identifiable information. JackBeck Apr 2012 #95

Assuming I'm posting from where my wife practices. And assuming the original information I gave was Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #97

It's also amazing the contortions you will go through to avoid your unethical behavior. JackBeck Apr 2012 #98

also a tip Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #103

How convenient for you that you are now using a proxy to hide your personal info. JackBeck Apr 2012 #106

no proxy today. I'm in Manhattan, my birth place, Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #114

I once found it amazing, too. redqueen Apr 2012 #105

Some of us are able to fight for social justice while respecting confidentiality. JackBeck Apr 2012 #108

HIPAA was not violated. This has been a fairly shameful display of derailing. nt redqueen Apr 2012 #109

Victims of abuse will not feel comfortable coming forward if they cannot trust their therapists. blue neen Apr 2012 #113

It adds to the stigma and discrimination that most survivors feel. JackBeck Apr 2012 #115

Absolutely. That includes the primary survivors and the secondary survivors. blue neen Apr 2012 #118

As a victim... former victim? Whatever... redqueen Apr 2012 #116

The child mentioned in the OP didn't give any consent for her story to be shared. (nt) JackBeck Apr 2012 #117

Didn't have to. HIPAA was not violated. redqueen Apr 2012 #121

That personal disclosure would be your choice, but it's not everyone's. blue neen Apr 2012 #120

So not surprising. nt redqueen Apr 2012 #122

This message was self-deleted by its author blue neen Apr 2012 #124

So not necessary. blue neen Apr 2012 #127

What it the parents are on this board, too and they read this? caseymoz Apr 2012 #151

This is so common there could be a dozen people who think it applies to them. redqueen Apr 2012 #160

How much is there to be said? caseymoz Apr 2012 #168

"This is so common there could be a dozen people who think it applies to them." NCTraveler Apr 2012 #178

I like to think most of us would be glad the issue is being discussed... redqueen Apr 2012 #180

Thank you for your reply.... NCTraveler Apr 2012 #184

If you're so anxious for discussion of the issue . . . caseymoz Apr 2012 #192

No one's arguing with the fact that there are LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #107

Thank you. woo me with science Apr 2012 #123

I would be more than angry LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #125

Right. Because this is an ethical issue, posting anonymous information on discussion board. PassingFair Apr 2012 #134

Amazingly, LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #170

:( Catherine Vincent Apr 2012 #96

Hug your wife for me.I'm a nurse.Absolve thyself from guilt,my child w8liftinglady Apr 2012 #99

The act is known as HIPAA. I guess you just made a typo. blue neen Apr 2012 #100

um,yeah,,,I DO have brain damage,after all w8liftinglady Apr 2012 #102

Thanks to this law the people you're caring for no longer have their names published in newspapers. blue neen Apr 2012 #104

Don't worry. I hug her enough for everyone on DU and beyond. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #130

Chris Hedges has written about this KT2000 Apr 2012 #128

I'll have to look for his writings on the topic. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #136

So, will you bar adults from working there? caseymoz Apr 2012 #171

What I wrote KT2000 Apr 2012 #183

Some questions are rhetorical. caseymoz Apr 2012 #185

+1 and thanks for the study link LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #203

I've been a foster parent for 20 years.... Sticky Apr 2012 #135

My wife works a lot with the foster system. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #137

Could I say, I don't believe you at all. caseymoz Apr 2012 #138

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #139

There are ways of breeching this topic caseymoz Apr 2012 #148

I believe any exposure of the topic of abuse is a win. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #159

Any? Then you definitely could have exposed it without this. nt. caseymoz Apr 2012 #191

This seemed to expose the derailers quite well. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #193

+1,000,000 LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #186

Excellent post. nt woo me with science Apr 2012 #188

And that's the end of the thread right there. Frank Cannon Apr 2012 #206

Good lord!!! Rex Apr 2012 #142

You really believe anonymity is airtight on the web caseymoz Apr 2012 #149

The owners of this site could, if they cared to. Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #150

Now I AND my wife are monsters. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #156

Well others in here have their own opinion Rex Apr 2012 #162

That is how desperate people are to shut discussions like this down. redqueen Apr 2012 #161

It is kinda getting ridiculous around here. Rex Apr 2012 #166

I have my own theories about what is behind that desperation... redqueen Apr 2012 #167

It does matter and you are right it is very different. Rex Apr 2012 #172

There have been plenty of threads here discussing strippers, prostitutes, and porn..... cbdo2007 Apr 2012 #169

Mods should remove for the sake of the patient. This is a HIPAA violation. cbdo2007 Apr 2012 #145

There are no more moderators. Rex Apr 2012 #146

Thanks alerted. cbdo2007 Apr 2012 #153

No problem. Rex Apr 2012 #173

Im glad as well whoawhat Apr 2012 #164

I mean this with the best of intentions and I don't believe HIPAA has been violated, ScreamingMeemie Apr 2012 #165

+1 NCTraveler Apr 2012 #179

+1 LadyHawkAZ Apr 2012 #187

In truth, many counselors consult with their spouses and other counselors. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #195

You have missed my point. I am not talking about anything other than taking it from a discussion ScreamingMeemie Apr 2012 #196