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dixiegrrrrl

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10. I share your sentiments.
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 07:35 PM
Apr 2012

Which is why Milton Mayer's "They Thought They Were Free"
a look back at how Germany came under the sway of Hitler,
is such a famous reminder of how people allowed their government to get to the point of slaughtering civilians.
( sorta like we slaughtered so many civilians in Iraq, in Afghanistan, and even Pakistan, to name the most recent dirty deeds)

One of the more famous of the exerpts:

"What no one seemed to notice," said a colleague of mine, a philologist, "was the ever widening gap, after 1933, between the government and the people. Just think how very wide this gap was to begin with, here in Germany. And it became always wider. You know, it doesn’t make people close to their government to be told that this is a people’s government, a true democracy, or to be enrolled in civilian defense, or even to vote. All this has little, really nothing, to do with knowing one is governing.

"What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise;
to receiving decisions deliberated in secret;
to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand,
or so dangerous that, even if the people could not understand it, it could not be released because of national security.
And their sense of identification with Hitler, their trust in him, made it easier to widen this gap and reassured those who would otherwise have worried about it.

"This separation of government from people, this widening of the gap, took place so gradually and so insensibly, each step disguised (perhaps not even intentionally) as a temporary emergency measure
or associated with true patriotic allegiance or with real social purposes.
And all the crises and reforms (real reforms, too) so occupied the people that they did not see the slow motion underneath, of the whole process of government growing remoter and remoter."

Thankfully some the most odious facets of fascism have not been fully indepat Apr 2012 #1
How many innocent people, do you suppose, have died in the War on Terror? sudopod Apr 2012 #2
All respect, for this is interesting, yet in my opinion what you are doing is editing out Bluenorthwest Apr 2012 #3
too true. Time to be aware of the pathway to hell. bbgrunt Apr 2012 #9
I share your sentiments. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2012 #10
The details leading up to the madness can not be stressed enough. n/t EmeraldCityGrl Apr 2012 #11
Absolutely. woo me with science Apr 2012 #22
What a chilling example you chose. Wait Wut Apr 2012 #4
Absolutely brilliant and chilling. Will be using this link as response K Gardner Apr 2012 #5
Thanks for the insightful comment. freshwest Apr 2012 #6
My, my gratuitous Apr 2012 #7
Life never changed much for the "good" Germans sudopod Apr 2012 #8
Thank you for not ignoring the sign posts. Some how those lucky enough not to have a family midnight Apr 2012 #17
using the NKVD as an example of fascism to upbraid people for using the term "fascism" improperly... MisterP Apr 2012 #12
I was one of those who strongly opposed the unrec function Flying Squirrel Apr 2012 #13
like with others, that thing about stupidicus Apr 2012 #14
Welcome to DU. ScreamingMeemie Apr 2012 #15
thanks stupidicus Apr 2012 #20
Both your post & the OP's are powerful & thought-provoking. pacalo Apr 2012 #16
have I found and old friend stupidicus Apr 2012 #21
I used that totally as a compliment to your thinking & writing skills. pacalo Apr 2012 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author woo me with science Apr 2012 #23
Very interesting opinion. Rex Apr 2012 #18
NKVD were fascists? Fumesucker Apr 2012 #19
Poster lost me on that score. Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #26
Welcome to the new DU! nt woo me with science Apr 2012 #24
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