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Tommy_Carcetti

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151. I guess in that limited situation it might make sense.
Thu Apr 5, 2012, 03:43 PM
Apr 2012

But beyond current and former LEOs, it gets a lot more skeptical.

For the record, I don't own any guns, concealed or in-house, nor do I have any desire to (unless I happen to witness a mafia murder). Still, I'm not opposed to someone keeping a single handgun in their house, so long as it is kept safely and away from children. Or--while I am not a hunter nor am I a big fan of hunting--I still don't have a problem with someone keeping a hunting rifle in their house, again so long as it is safely stored and kept away from children.

But honestly, people who feel the need to stockpile multiple guns in their house, including semi-automatic or automatic weapons, or people who (other than the limited circumstances that you and I recognize) feel the need to arm themselves so that they can feel they are the law or who feel in constant fear that they will become the victim of some horrible shootout--I just don't get that mentality. At all.

Because it's called Target? n/t Ian David Apr 2012 #1
It was a News edit error. CAPHAVOC Apr 2012 #16
Whatever Zimmerman claims to have been doing Mz Pip Apr 2012 #2
I dont think he was specifically looking for a fight. HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #7
The last thing I would do Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #22
How many times have you called 911 in the last year? Fumesucker Apr 2012 #68
He could be a little more relaxed with them than I would be. Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #73
Concealed carry is legal. Indydem Apr 2012 #3
He was not licensed to carry as a neighborhood watch person Nancy Waterman Apr 2012 #5
Do not confuse the issues. Indydem Apr 2012 #9
When did "neighborhood watch" program start requiring any permitting at all? ManiacJoe Apr 2012 #10
It doesn't. trof Apr 2012 #111
Yeah, there is something crazy about it gratuitous Apr 2012 #14
You are entitled to your opinion. Indydem Apr 2012 #17
You're welcome gratuitous Apr 2012 #19
A majority of Americans still think Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9/11. tledford Apr 2012 #86
Unless you live in a free-fire zone, carrying a gun in public pnwmom Apr 2012 #43
I'll agree it's legal... but I may differ on the "crazy." Fawke Em Apr 2012 #57
If we're basing things on probabilities.... krispos42 Apr 2012 #115
I have NEVER bought a lottery ticket. Fawke Em Apr 2012 #129
Actually higher than being a CCW hero nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #130
Sorry, FE. Cowboy Dan Apr 2012 #143
Sorry, but you're more wrong. Fawke Em Apr 2012 #156
Theres black people wearing hoodies at Target. Better bring a gun. nt HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #4
He was on his way to target Nye Bevan Apr 2012 #6
Actually what he said was "I was out looking for a target" ... nt eppur_se_muova Apr 2012 #8
You must have never checked in to our gun forum (RKBA)... Those with CCW think they should be able hlthe2b Apr 2012 #11
Violence doesn't happen at these places? vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #15
Seatbelts aren't capable of killing other people when mishandled. Arkana Apr 2012 #18
You are mistaken slackmaster Apr 2012 #21
They save lives, just as concield carried guns do. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #23
there is simply no way that "concield" is a typo. Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #31
It was. It has been a long Monday. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #60
Argue that in the gun forum. I am only stating a fact. hlthe2b Apr 2012 #24
Sorry, I thought you asked a question. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #26
That question was in the opening post of the thread NoGOPZone Apr 2012 #33
Sorry that was my mistake. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #36
In generally safe places, you or your children are more likely to be wounded or killed by accident pnwmom Apr 2012 #44
Stats, please. n/t PavePusher Apr 2012 #138
Why bother? Every time I post the Harvard researcher's stats, someone pops up to dispute them. But pnwmom Apr 2012 #140
So essentially they want no places that are gun-free Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #28
No you are not nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #59
I carry my gun where ever i go with one or two exceptions. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #12
I always carry my gun when going to the toilet. Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #30
Alligators are no joke! vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #34
Seriously you realize a hand gun, even large calliber nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #65
I know but a toilet alligator would be pretty small. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #74
Better spend sometime watching Swamp People Hangingon Apr 2012 #121
I know that a .22 will do but overkill is better than underkill when it comes to gators. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #122
Prefered s an M-1 nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #123
here toy go vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #124
Garand nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #125
I have never seen a Garand on the show. Hangingon Apr 2012 #134
So admittedly we have watched a different show nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #135
They use 22 rimfires Meiko Apr 2012 #144
Yup, different shows. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #145
*sigh* zappaman Apr 2012 #147
Those Garands were self-deleted by the hunter. nt Codeine Apr 2012 #157
If he had a CCW in Florida, he could bring his "security blankie" anywhere HockeyMom Apr 2012 #13
"security blankie" Hell Hath No Fury Apr 2012 #75
hey, never underestimate someone with a towel... JHB Apr 2012 #137
You can't go anywhere without a gun. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2012 #20
Unfortunately, people do carry their guns to Target, parks, restaurants, and they want the right to Hoyt Apr 2012 #25
If bad guys would follow the law, I wouldnt need/want to carry everywhere. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #35
yeah you would. Alligators. How soon you forget. Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #45
Like Zimmy? eom uppityperson Apr 2012 #47
Welcome to DU. I've know a bunch of folks who carry guns, they'd still do it if there were no crime. Hoyt Apr 2012 #51
You know what amazes me about this argument? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #62
I have no desire to be a hero. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #77
Please do the math. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #78
thank you for your service. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #88
Are you familiar with escalation of force? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #89
I am familiar with the escalation of force. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #93
But we are having this discussion because of Zimmerman. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #96
Having worked in Florida K-12 Public schools HockeyMom Apr 2012 #108
Your absolutely right because crime never happens in a Target, a park ... spin Apr 2012 #94
And quite honestly my chances to give first aid nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #105
True. Crime is way down despite the spread of concealed carry ... spin Apr 2012 #116
Since you brought it up nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #118
can you back that up??? belcffub Apr 2012 #127
Yup, and the source is ironic. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #128
ok so looking over that article belcffub Apr 2012 #131
and how many of those justifiable homicides were law enforcement belcffub Apr 2012 #133
He's a coward who takes a gun everywhere. DevonRex Apr 2012 #27
Are you a coward if you have a fire extinguisher or wear a seat belt? vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #37
nah... I bring gasoline with me instead fascisthunter Apr 2012 #40
Fire extinguishers and seat belts don't accidentally kill children and other innocent people. pnwmom Apr 2012 #46
If I had a nickel for every screwup DevonRex Apr 2012 #49
Ok vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #56
My god what a fantasy nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #64
I dont see it as a fantasy more like a nightmare. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #72
What, the non existent wounds? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #80
My point is that if IF IF IF he was correct. Im 99% sure he wasnt. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #90
I have been in those very rare situations nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #91
thats why i said i would vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #95
4- follow through if you are serious nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #97
Ummm, yeah.... PavePusher Apr 2012 #139
Yikes! zappaman Apr 2012 #148
3 days, no reply..... PavePusher Apr 2012 #155
ABC enhanced the video and it showed gashes on the back of Zimmerman's head... spin Apr 2012 #101
I am betting an old wound nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #102
True... spin Apr 2012 #103
The problem is the tape blew howitzer sized holes nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #104
It will indeed be interesting to follow ... spin Apr 2012 #117
The law itself is already, rightly so, nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #119
My brother carries a gun to his work place at night when closing chowder66 Apr 2012 #79
Protect ME? Don't make me fucking laugh. DevonRex Apr 2012 #81
Im not vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #100
Another Tim in OKC was a blast. DevonRex Apr 2012 #106
Im sorry about your friends. I'm a blsat was a poor attempt at humor. vr94rx7 Apr 2012 #109
It's okay. DevonRex Apr 2012 #110
I just knew it......... TheCowsCameHome Apr 2012 #54
because it is Very Important for Hollywood Cowboys to be armed and dangerous at all times. Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #29
Maybe he was a mall cop wannabe too? Life Long Dem Apr 2012 #32
self delete snagglepuss Apr 2012 #38
And so....? What does that have to do with stalking and murdering somebody fascisthunter Apr 2012 #39
Yes when I first read that, I wondered about it also. I wondered why he was behaving as if sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #41
If you live in a state that allows concealed weapons and don't assume the guy next to you onenote Apr 2012 #42
For all we know, Zimmerman, a Democrat, has been on DU arguing for the right pnwmom Apr 2012 #48
I just saw on another thread that he's a Republican. mainer Apr 2012 #66
Dad, none, that I am aware off, has brought George's party affiliation. nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #69
His supporters use his Democratic affiliation to argue that he isn't a racist. n/t pnwmom Apr 2012 #85
Southern Dixiecrat? nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #87
CNN says he's a registered Democrat. pnwmom Apr 2012 #83
He needed a gun because he is a paranoid freak. alarimer Apr 2012 #50
Well, that's one. Gimme another. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2012 #55
My question is what did he see (or claim to see) Martin doing Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #52
he saw Martin being BLACK YUTE. Warren Stupidity Apr 2012 #53
True...I just want to read Zimmerman's "official" statement from that night Blue_Tires Apr 2012 #58
Exactly Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #61
I heard one time Politicalboi Apr 2012 #63
I carry a gun pretty much whenever I leave the house .... oldhippie Apr 2012 #67
Again nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #70
You keep saying that - care to provide some actual facts? nt hack89 Apr 2012 #76
X2 kramerv Apr 2012 #114
Suffice it to say... zappaman Apr 2012 #149
Yes, I do. Hell Hath No Fury Apr 2012 #142
I carry eveywhere I go. No big deal. shadowrider Apr 2012 #71
They carry guns everywhere, like imaginary medieval knights with their swords alcibiades_mystery Apr 2012 #82
He was on his way to hold it up. eom tledford Apr 2012 #84
Yes. Some people with carry permits do carry on a regular basis ... spin Apr 2012 #92
Because, in the sick world of gun hero wannabees - the opportunity for gun heroism is everywhere jpak Apr 2012 #98
Wow kramerv Apr 2012 #113
...because! Ya Never knowwwwwww! fascisthunter Apr 2012 #99
George can try to convince a jury that he carries a weapon to go to target Marrah_G Apr 2012 #107
Of course he took a gun to Target. He wanted to be sure to get double value on his coupons. n/t gkhouston Apr 2012 #112
Because of their low low prices Aerows Apr 2012 #120
if you need a gun to go to Target riverwalker Apr 2012 #126
Maybe you didn't hear the whole sentence: "I was on my way to target....suspicious-looking people." ScottLand Apr 2012 #132
He's saying this to protect the Homeowner's Association and his friends within it from lawsuits. E-Z-B Apr 2012 #136
Paranoia. nt onehandle Apr 2012 #141
That's CCW for you. I don't get it, but whatever. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2012 #146
As a former cop I get it actually nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #150
I guess in that limited situation it might make sense. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2012 #151
I could have qualified nadinbrzezinski Apr 2012 #153
A former cop who is "a really bad shot"? Codeine Apr 2012 #158
I was a cop too. zappaman Apr 2012 #154
You are a former cop? From where? I've never heard you mention that before. SlimJimmy Apr 2012 #159
To be fair, Codeine Apr 2012 #160
That's a pretty heavy claim she's making. I'd like details. SlimJimmy Apr 2012 #161
The only details we'll get are snarky comments about Ignore lists and Codeine Apr 2012 #162
+100 and a kick n/t zappaman Apr 2012 #163
Never roam alone. ileus Apr 2012 #152
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