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Ed Suspicious

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99. How progressive of you. Well, not my version, but a cop apologist's, gun toter's version of
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 08:40 PM
Jun 2014

progressive I suppose. I think an attacker is not an attacker is not an attacker. A young woman with mental problems could be handled more delicately, even if attacking than neo-nazi laying down machine gun fire. How would an cop without a gun, say in Europe might have been expected to handle this situation? Eye for an eye? Is officer's safety paramount in all situations?

God almighty are there no rational people to be had in some of these police departments? lumpy Jun 2014 #1
USA - Home to the "No Fault Police Shooting/Murder" FreakinDJ Jun 2014 #3
He should have backed the fuck away then he would have no reason to fear. Fucking idiot cop. Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #24
Kinda hard to get an unbiased report from a website called "policestateusa". blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #2
"A Special Needs GIRL ????? FreakinDJ Jun 2014 #4
"Special Needs" does not mean "No Risk". blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #5
You Big Strong Police Man shooting little Girls like that FreakinDJ Jun 2014 #6
big strong police man where are you getting this? pitohui Jun 2014 #9
You ASSume a lot in your murderous cop apology FreakinDJ Jun 2014 #11
Not so much. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #10
Over 20% of ALL Police Shootings are Unarmed Citizens FreakinDJ Jun 2014 #12
Unarmed also does not mean no threat. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #15
Of course it was justified - He said "He was in Fear" - after the fact FreakinDJ Jun 2014 #16
How can anyone be in fear or say they Jenoch Jun 2014 #19
The officer who shot and killed this 13yr old boy, instructed officer to say they feared FreakinDJ Jun 2014 #20
Please provide me link to citations of what you posted. Jenoch Jun 2014 #21
Do your homework Cop Apologist FreakinDJ Jun 2014 #22
You brought it up, not me. Jenoch Jun 2014 #28
"A family friend, however, described the object she was holding as a 'butter knife.'” pnwmom Jun 2014 #46
Other artcicles indicate a "knife" but do not specify what type. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #48
With any knife, why didn't the policeman use a taser to incapacitate her? n/t pnwmom Jun 2014 #50
See my #51. (nt) blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #52
This woman was not unarmed. Jenoch Jun 2014 #18
The family called expecting medical help. They kind of help they usually get. This time they Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #26
Did you read the story? Jenoch Jun 2014 #29
I did. Let it be your daughter, depressed, armed with a kitchen knife. Are you calling the cops Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #32
I don't disagree with you that things needed to be calmed down. Jenoch Jun 2014 #34
Paramedics are not going to be allowed to go in if it's repoted the person has a knife. LisaL Jun 2014 #35
I don't think she was "depressed." I think she was angry, paranoid and psychotic. MADem Jun 2014 #105
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #64
The police person was of Vietnamese heritage. MADem Jun 2014 #107
"Possible"? How about "almost certain"? nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #17
Almost certain what? blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #41
Almost certain that they used excessive force. n/t nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #83
Based on what information? blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #84
And we know the cops never, ever lie about anything, right? nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #85
In other words, regarding this case, you got nuthin'. (nt) blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #87
I might just as easily ask why you're so quick to take the cops' side. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #88
Again, who said I was taking the cop's side? blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #89
Okay, maybe I was a bit unfair. But there are enough people out there who defend the cops no matter nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #90
Actually blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #91
And I'm just not very trusting of authority nowadays. I've seen too much utter bullshit fly nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #92
A butter knife isn't a deadly weapon. n/t pnwmom Jun 2014 #45
Never said it was. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #47
She doesn't look like a "girl" in that picture. She looks like an 18 year old young woman. MADem Jun 2014 #54
I read a story that said the EMTs cannot Jenoch Jun 2014 #65
Like I said, I don't think we have the full story here. MADem Jun 2014 #104
You are doing some sterotyping about cops. Jenoch Jun 2014 #106
Uh, I am not "stereotyping" - the police HAVE refused to take people on because their IQs were too MADem Jun 2014 #108
I am not suggesting you did not find a PD Jenoch Jun 2014 #109
This is not about "low" IQ. MADem Jun 2014 #110
I just don't believe these guys anymore. They've screwed up (even intentionally) too many times. nt nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #93
Here's a story on the incident from The San Jose Mercury News... PoliticAverse Jun 2014 #13
Okay. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #14
Yeah whatever. How about the cop clears the are including clearing it of himself. No excuses. Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #25
Had the officer used a taser and missed he would not have been avebury Jun 2014 #97
Unfortunately, there is an extreme danger calling the police or 911 etherealtruth Jun 2014 #7
wait, the family called the cops on her, said she was dangerous & held a weapon, and ? pitohui Jun 2014 #8
That's insane. The family had no reasonable expectation that the help would kill their daughter. Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #27
It appears she responded differently to the cop than she did her family. Jenoch Jun 2014 #30
I can't believe you are calling cops human elias7 Jun 2014 #57
Sometimes mentally ill people grab weapons. Many times those people are not homicidal. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2014 #43
That is one of the most disgusting, horrid posts I have ever read here. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2014 #69
How is cops killing this girl any better than everyone leaving and letting her hack her heart out? Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #23
You brought up an interesting point. Jenoch Jun 2014 #31
Nope, better for the cop to assess from a distance and keep a safe distance while trying to talk her Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #33
If she was coming at them, as repoted, what would be the safe distance? LisaL Jun 2014 #36
I wouldn't be opposed to that. Do you expect them to hold their ground at all costs? Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #38
One witness is quoted that she was "chasing" the cop with a knife. Jenoch Jun 2014 #66
If no other person was in immediate danger, yes I do. NutmegYankee Jun 2014 #53
From the information I have read, Jenoch Jun 2014 #67
She was shot in the street. NutmegYankee Jun 2014 #68
I did not look at your other links. Jenoch Jun 2014 #72
You should look at them. NutmegYankee Jun 2014 #73
I understand there are bad cops who do bad things.. Jenoch Jun 2014 #74
"Cops do more good things exponentially every day than bad" NutmegYankee Jun 2014 #75
I never said that there are not bad cops. Jenoch Jun 2014 #76
You haven't provided stats to back it up either. NutmegYankee Jun 2014 #79
Yep, and those normal jobs mostly include heloing people. Jenoch Jun 2014 #80
Then you do believe it was a mistake for all Jenoch Jun 2014 #37
I very much agree with "Maybe tbere should be different proticals for situations such as this." Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #39
Devastating. The family made the same mistake so many people do. geomon666 Jun 2014 #40
A knife weilding adult attacked the police with a deadly weapon and was killed.... Demo_Chris Jun 2014 #42
"A family friend, however, described the object she was holding as a 'butter knife.”' pnwmom Jun 2014 #49
Not if she was armed with a lethal weapon. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #51
The responding officer SHOULD have been equipped. He knew what the situation was. pnwmom Jun 2014 #55
Not every officer is equipped with a taser. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #59
It was a knife of some kind, that's all that matters... Demo_Chris Jun 2014 #95
It's a stretch to say that a butter knife in the hands of a teenage girl is deadly force. pnwmom Jun 2014 #96
I was not clear. A metal butter knife might not justify deadly force IF the officers knew.... Demo_Chris Jun 2014 #98
Cute. "A justifiable shoot." Very jargon like. As if you've said that phrase before. Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #63
True. Her story ended when she assaulted the police with a deadly weapon.... Demo_Chris Jun 2014 #94
How progressive of you. Well, not my version, but a cop apologist's, gun toter's version of Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #99
Lots of assumptions there sparky... Demo_Chris Jun 2014 #103
Shoot to kill ... GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #44
Protect the 1%, serve up the brutality. 99Forever Jun 2014 #56
Sad. Almost the same thing happened to me Lee-Lee Jun 2014 #58
Thank you for this point of view. Sissyk Jun 2014 #70
I wish everyone would read this post Beaverhausen Jun 2014 #82
You're right, how is the cop supposed to know what kind of Jenoch Jun 2014 #86
NICE Cop Apology - Blame the Greiving Parents FreakinDJ Jun 2014 #101
Sorry, but their loss doesn't change the events leading up to it Lee-Lee Jun 2014 #111
How to manipulate sentiment through language. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2014 #60
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #61
Seems like all cops are trained to do anymore is shoot. CanonRay Jun 2014 #62
rip. public needs to learn how to deal w family members w knives. cops will blow them away Liberal_in_LA Jun 2014 #71
He has to be fired, at least. But.... bobGandolf Jun 2014 #77
Our police force needs some serious reform. Initech Jun 2014 #78
They should stop calling Police mstinamotorcity2 Jun 2014 #81
This in constructive. The idea that we "advocate for a Crisis team" seems like it would be in Ed Suspicious Jun 2014 #100
An interesting idea. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #112
As a mother with a disabled adult child on serious medication--I am afraid for my daughter Demeter Jun 2014 #102
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