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Cha

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1. Thanks Oilem.. from your link.. "Greenwald sets up a false dichotomy between.. " Shocking!
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 11:34 PM
Jun 2014
“… if you’re going to talk about how far we’ve come when it comes to porn, if you’re going to posit Paul “Max Hardcore” Little as the latest victim of the Bush administration, if you’re going to lament one more strike against your First Amendment rights, you should bear witness as to what a porn star drenched in vomit looks like.”

"..That’s a quote from (link is to a NSFW site) Susannah Breslin, in her response to a Salon column by Glenn Greenwald. Greenwald sets up a false dichotomy between the DoJ’s prosecution of pornographer Max Hardcore, and governmental performance and perpetuation of torture. After making the fairly obvious point that torture is wrong, Greenwald repeatedly asserts that Hardcore’s actions are “fictional” and says that “no real pain was inflicted.” Yet Breslin says the following about Hardcore’s ouvre:

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"At the same time, it couldn’t be more clear that Greenwald couldn’t care less about the real women who were harmed by Hardcore’s pornography production. By dismissing what happened to them as “fiction” he is promulgating the view that pornography performers are lying whores who deserve whatever bad things happen to them. Torture is only wrong when it happens to men, apparently."

"I apologize for linking to Glenn Greenwald"

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(Update: I have been asked to preface this post with a warning that readers may find it disturbing.)

"When I posted a link to Glenn Greenwald’s column the other day, I was unaware of his history as an advocate for torturers. Greenwald has vigorously championed torturers’ rights, has explicitly privileged their version of events over that of their victims, and has asserted — in agreement with the torturers — that “no real pain was inflicted” on the victims.

Of course these aren’t the torturers at Gitmo or Abu Ghraib. It’s the film company of “Max Hardcore,” an extreme pornographer who grossly abused women while filming the proceedings for the entertainment of other men. Hardcore claims his victims were thrilled to be tortured, and Greenwald accepts this point of view unquestioningly."

Amazing what a difference gender makes, huh?

http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/2009/05/25/i-apologize-for-linking-to-glenn-greenwald/

Such an "honorable man".. not.
Thanks Oilem.. from your link.. "Greenwald sets up a false dichotomy between.. " Shocking! Cha Jun 2014 #1
Greenwald's distinction between fictional and real torture is valid. nt delrem Jun 2014 #2
Well, except when it isn't. OilemFirchen Jun 2014 #6
I don't agree with your "hang him high" analysis. delrem Jun 2014 #13
His article was a complete non-sequitur. OilemFirchen Jun 2014 #15
GG was "involved in the porn industry."? Cha Jun 2014 #18
Shocking, neh? OilemFirchen Jun 2014 #20
SMH.. such "an honorable man".. quote from a greenwald fan. I don't call him Greedy Greenwald for Cha Jun 2014 #22
Interesting comments at the link. OilemFirchen Jun 2014 #3
This link works, OF.. in your last exerpt.. the link wouldn't work for me.. "the page you're looking Cha Jun 2014 #9
Th**ks Cha. OilemFirchen Jun 2014 #12
UR welcome.. Cha Jun 2014 #14
That reminds me, I gotta get his new book quinnox Jun 2014 #4
Therefore, NSA spying on everyone is just peachy? That's your point? Electric Monk Jun 2014 #5
Not sure what this has to do with the NSA. joshcryer Jun 2014 #7
It's a nervous tic, I'd suppose. OilemFirchen Jun 2014 #17
What's messed up is Little is / was vilified in the community. joshcryer Jun 2014 #19
Yeah, I mostly avoided the porn wars. OilemFirchen Jun 2014 #21
I stay out of them too. joshcryer Jun 2014 #23
Damn it, you are disturbing the narrative! quinnox Jun 2014 #11
For the sycophants above, who deserve no direct response: OilemFirchen Jun 2014 #8
Let me put my 10 foot pole away for a moment and just say... Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #10
Don't pierce anything useful. OilemFirchen Jun 2014 #16
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