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RainDog

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117. btw, grantcart, I am really surprised to see you lying outright here
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 12:13 AM
Dec 2011

and attacking me when history demonstrates that you are wrong.

I respected you before. Now... that's gone.

He totally spaced out and missed it. Scuba Dec 2011 #1
or has caved to pharma and the prison industry. I don't think he is that spaced out. bbgrunt Dec 2011 #42
On this one, I just think he's choosing his battles. tblue Dec 2011 #94
Munchies will do that. boppers Dec 2011 #121
There's a laundry list of issues that are important to young people SixthSense Dec 2011 #2
Time for those same young people to start demanding their parents vote (D). DCKit Dec 2011 #3
They did that SixthSense Dec 2011 #5
I said "progressive Democrats". DCKit Dec 2011 #6
people who work in drug policy reform RainDog Dec 2011 #8
Then that needs to be done in primaries SixthSense Dec 2011 #11
young voters are HUGELY ticked off that their issue has been laughed off RainDog Dec 2011 #9
This is one of the most ridiculous statements I've seen posted here. MjolnirTime Dec 2011 #50
I didn't say it was only an issue for young people RainDog Dec 2011 #61
Obama does not deserve my vote. Maybe Ron Paul does, Rageneau Dec 2011 #100
Ron Paul is so principled he supports discrimination. Sorry you fell for his bullshit. MjolnirTime Dec 2011 #104
I find Ron Paul disgusting but that statement is absolutely true Bjorn Against Dec 2011 #112
The only reason anyone would support Ron Paul is because they haven't done any research. MjolnirTime Dec 2011 #136
"I was going to decriminalize marijuana, but then I got high" aikoaiko Dec 2011 #4
Lol! RiffRandell Dec 2011 #47
1 in 3 American Youth Are Arrested By Age 23 RainDog Dec 2011 #7
I agree, except I don't find it "puzzling" Enrique Dec 2011 #10
Not necessarily RainDog Dec 2011 #12
Obama has a crappy Med Marijuana policy for the same reason that he sold us out truedelphi Dec 2011 #87
Control the $$$$-Screw the Patient Rights fredamae Dec 2011 #13
You got it SixthSense Dec 2011 #15
Law Enforcement is the Primary Opposition fredamae Dec 2011 #23
when marinol was classed as schedule II RainDog Dec 2011 #19
My wife was prescribed Marinol during third round of chemo, it Dragonfli Dec 2011 #124
that's what made me aware of this issue - medical cannabis works RainDog Dec 2011 #127
OT "Raindogs" is one of my top 10 favorite albums of all time. banned from Kos Dec 2011 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Romulox Dec 2011 #17
Obama hasn't been "silent"--he has actively ramped up a crackdown on Medical Marijuana. Romulox Dec 2011 #16
you misunderstood that post RainDog Dec 2011 #18
No. I didn't. Obama is in charge of the DEA, DOJ; He's a committed Drug Warrior. Romulox Dec 2011 #20
lol RainDog Dec 2011 #21
That's cool. ONE DAY you'll solve the mystery of who appointed Eric Holder, Michele Leonhart!` Romulox Dec 2011 #25
And he will remain silent until AFTER the election. nt Countdown_3_2_1 Dec 2011 #22
Obama hasn't been "silent"; He speaks through his POLICIES: Romulox Dec 2011 #24
Why is remaining silent on an issue where speaking out would be political suicide mysterious? Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2011 #26
Legalizing Marijuana is Not a Far-Leftist Position RainDog Dec 2011 #29
Well done! n/t i_sometimes Dec 2011 #32
you might want to check out the Drug Policy Forum RainDog Dec 2011 #37
I can attest to i_sometimes Dec 2011 #60
I fear the Party of NO fredamae Dec 2011 #30
It would not surprise me - legalising cannabis would make a Republican look moderate. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2011 #46
yet almost half of the population of the U.S. lives in places with legal medical marijuana RainDog Dec 2011 #68
It's not a far left position, it's a position that would make a politician be viewed as far left. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2011 #89
thanks for the reply. You're right - it's not a far left position RainDog Dec 2011 #118
I think politicians are probably accurately gauging electoral/media response. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2011 #132
The issue may have changed just a bit - Gary Johnson is going to run for prez as a libertarian RainDog Dec 2011 #133
You're essentially asking, "Why do the right thing, if someone might criticize me?" They're called Romulox Dec 2011 #34
No, I'm not, you're simply wrong about that. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2011 #45
Those are the thinnest slices of hair I've ever seen! Bottom line, you defend the status quo. nt Romulox Dec 2011 #58
Bottom line: no I don't, and your comments are both false and rude. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2011 #90
I get what you're saying. randome Dec 2011 #59
Only if the person you're talking to wants to "win" rather than to communicate. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2011 #91
"Political suicide"? SixthSense Dec 2011 #35
Sorry... nebenaube Dec 2011 #107
Anecdotally speaking, I have not seen 'the youth' united in demanding marijuana legalization. randome Dec 2011 #27
I know. You have not seen many things concerning this issue RainDog Dec 2011 #31
Thanks for setting me straight on how I perceive reality. randome Dec 2011 #33
I can link to discussions with you in which you simply deny reality RainDog Dec 2011 #36
Link away. randome Dec 2011 #39
go to the Drug Policy Forum RainDog Dec 2011 #40
Every poll you list has to do with medicinal use of marijuana. randome Dec 2011 #49
no. the first two have to do with entirely legalizing RainDog Dec 2011 #51
You're right about those first 2 links. randome Dec 2011 #52
so you're not going to bother reading any of the reports or studies? RainDog Dec 2011 #56
Creationism? Nope. You still have me pegged wrong. randome Dec 2011 #57
here are answers to your questions RainDog Dec 2011 #63
A thoughtful response and I appreciate that. randome Dec 2011 #66
With the number of LEGAL narcotics spewed out Tsiyu Dec 2011 #72
I think I know why that is. randome Dec 2011 #74
lol RainDog Dec 2011 #73
You don't have to smoke cannabis, you can use a vaporizer or ingest it combined with food. Uncle Joe Dec 2011 #76
I already said I think incarceration is stupid. randome Dec 2011 #77
The problem is that would still be prohibtion leaving all the dynamics in place Uncle Joe Dec 2011 #78
There will always be prohibition of something. randome Dec 2011 #79
That should be its' own thread, but as this one is referring to cannabis Uncle Joe Dec 2011 #81
*You* support the Drug War. Why try to put *your* views in the mouth of "the Youth"? nt Romulox Dec 2011 #41
I don't support the drug 'war'. randome Dec 2011 #43
Right. You just *really, really* understand where the Drug Warriors are coming from. nt Romulox Dec 2011 #82
Apparently I understand the nature of a paradox. randome Dec 2011 #83
No. You don't. Because that's not a "paradox", it's just inconsistency on your part. Not the same. Romulox Dec 2011 #84
Well, I do benefit... i_sometimes Dec 2011 #28
Another clue in this mystery: "Joe Biden, Drug Warrior" Romulox Dec 2011 #38
Obama never ran on legalizing Reefer. And he wouldn't be reelected if he did. MjolnirTime Dec 2011 #44
Just promise you won't use your hammer for evil... randome Dec 2011 #48
since when does an issue that has favorable polls across all demographics- RainDog Dec 2011 #53
It's America, RainDog. randome Dec 2011 #54
Post #29 says otherwise ("across all demographics"). boppers Dec 2011 #123
pardon me. slight exaggeration. majorities across ALL political id's except for Republicans RainDog Dec 2011 #126
He did make specific and detailed statements regarding policy that he needs to uphold Bluenorthwest Dec 2011 #55
With a world economy in shambles, frazzled Dec 2011 #62
FDR ended prohibition and it spurred the economy RainDog Dec 2011 #64
Money should not be part of this discussion. randome Dec 2011 #67
FDR did not end prohibition by himself treestar Dec 2011 #96
lol well if you really really really really believe it, it must be true grantcart Dec 2011 #98
FDR and the End of Prohibition RainDog Dec 2011 #115
The issue is not whether he supported it after it was approved by the party but why he didn't lead grantcart Dec 2011 #139
I am not bashing Obama on this issue RainDog Dec 2011 #142
btw, grantcart, I am really surprised to see you lying outright here RainDog Dec 2011 #117
+1 This is absurd. treestar Dec 2011 #95
Yeah so the State can i_sometimes Dec 2011 #108
There was federal law on it too treestar Dec 2011 #119
What are you saying? i_sometimes Dec 2011 #134
The clinics were being investigated for violating federal regulations regarding medical marijuana treestar Dec 2011 #135
There are no Federal i_sometimes Dec 2011 #141
this is not true RainDog Dec 2011 #145
here's a link about that situation RainDog Dec 2011 #146
Ah, yes. The economy is in trouble, so we shouldn't get distracted Doctor_J Dec 2011 #137
The only "science" involved is economics. comipinko Dec 2011 #65
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2011 #69
I don't see a big downside for Obama in supporting marijuana legalization aint_no_life_nowhere Dec 2011 #70
Try "making it far less likely he'd be reelected". Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2011 #148
I think it is probably an enviable position loyalsister Dec 2011 #71
people are losing their jobs because of the LEGAL medical marijuana trade in states here RainDog Dec 2011 #75
Does anyone believe that it would be easier than HCR or extending unemployment? loyalsister Dec 2011 #101
Getting out of the drug war game would greatly decrease the reach of the police state TheKentuckian Dec 2011 #88
Enviable? SixthSense Dec 2011 #99
So they can't walk and chew gum at the same time? What a dumb post Doctor_J Dec 2011 #105
The problem is they won't loyalsister Dec 2011 #125
I don't think Obama has to fight to legalize mj RainDog Dec 2011 #128
Yeah, its hard doing two things at once. i_sometimes Dec 2011 #109
K&R n/t Shining Jack Dec 2011 #80
More so-called "silence" from Obama's DOJ: "Feds Shut Down Marin Pot Club" Romulox Dec 2011 #85
K&R (n/t) a2liberal Dec 2011 #86
I don't think there is any puzzling silence.. it's pretty clear that Obama supports the WOD. lib2DaBone Dec 2011 #92
I can't believe the number of people who cite politics as justification for Obama's silence.... mike_c Dec 2011 #93
The private prison industry would never permit decriminalization. NorthCarolina Dec 2011 #97
Yes.. that sums it up. Prisons equal "PROFIT". lib2DaBone Dec 2011 #102
Not that puzzling - he ran as a liberal, and is governing as a far-right conservative Doctor_J Dec 2011 #103
Ya think there just might be a few hundred more pressing issues for him to deal with these days? RBInMaine Dec 2011 #106
Linky? eom i_sometimes Dec 2011 #110
No, actually, I don't. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2011 #111
But the Pen Stoke needs solid main stream justification so people can get over their fear freedomnow Dec 2011 #113
here's a link to the Miron study RainDog Dec 2011 #129
I was looking for your defense! Not disappointed! Logical Dec 2011 #122
It is odd. It'd be low-hanging fruit to save taxpayer dollars, stimulate the economy, etc. DirkGently Dec 2011 #114
A question for all of you who feel Obama is silent on this for political purposes or electability FlaGatorJD Dec 2011 #116
Michele Leonhart's track record of undermioning state law.. red dog 1 Dec 2011 #120
It's a moral issue, and shameful that Obama has not had the courage of his convictions. Kurovski Dec 2011 #130
Try Marinol ... legal prescribed pill made of THC in pot. freedomnow Dec 2011 #143
it is not as effective RainDog Dec 2011 #147
Try Marinol ... legal prescribed pill made of THC in pot. freedomnow Dec 2011 #144
Not on my formulary. Kurovski Dec 2011 #149
As an active JackInGreen Dec 2011 #131
The president has abandoned many of his 2008 voters Doctor_J Dec 2011 #138
Sadly he listens more to "Dance with the ones who bought you" Marrah_G Dec 2011 #140
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