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In the discussion thread: Zimmerman's grandfather connected to the CIA - this explains why the murderer is not in jail [View all]

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Mon Apr 2, 2012, 12:45 PM

Travelman (452 posts)

24. How on earth does the grandfather being in the CIA

macigally translate into the father somehow having some sort of access to some sort of damaging information?

That makes absolutely no sense at all. And besides that, the CIA is VASTLY more descrete. If the Agency were actually involved, no one would ever have heard of Trayvon Martin.

This is all highly irrelevand and ludicrously speculative bullshit. Sorry.

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Zimmerman's grandfather connected to the CIA - this explains why the murderer is not in jail [View all]	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	OP
That's one weird ass website you linked too...	snooper2	Apr 2012	#1
It certainly goes well together, given that there are almost no jobs in our country anymore, and...	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#2
Well that explains why they spell their last names differently	obey	Apr 2012	#3
The grandfather's official obituary deleted the last n from his name.	mainer	Apr 2012	#5
Ah Ha, and Grampa Zimmermann was from Minnesota	obey	Apr 2012	#20
And I sense a mole, Mr. 51 posts	mainer	Apr 2012	#33
I never notice things like when posters became active. I guess I should. It might explain behavior	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#52
How's that spook ass taste?	Tom Ripley	Apr 2012	#40
I'm sure there's a lots more we don't know. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#7
The grandfather died like 20 years ago?	HooptieWagon	Apr 2012	#4
sshhhh you'll ruin it...	belcffub	Apr 2012	#6
If this is correct, it would provide an explanation why Zimmerman is being given the VIP treatment	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#8
It means the father could access damaging information	mainer	Apr 2012	#10
Exactly. And this wouldn't be the first time - nor the last for something like that to happen nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#11
So if daddy has this power, why didn't he get Georgie a cushy job?	onenote	Apr 2012	#13
Because George is a troublemaker and a loser	mainer	Apr 2012	#14
So daddy can get the PD and SA to risk their careers for this loser but couldn't get him set up	onenote	Apr 2012	#16
George's life is on the line here. It makes sense this is far more urgent	mainer	Apr 2012	#17
Exactly. In such circumstances, you call whoever you have to call on and cash in your chips. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#25
I have a 100 favors i can call in if I am in real trouble, but I don't have Job connections....	slampoet	Apr 2012	#30
Interesting that you choose to argue via questions in lieu of statements.	rhett o rick	Apr 2012	#38
Why is it interesting?	onenote	Apr 2012	#41
1) Because a murderer is running free; 2) Because he's being given VIP treatment; 3) Because the	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#73
I was asking why the poster thought it was interesting that I framed my posts as a question.	onenote	Apr 2012	#80
Oh ok, sorry. I thought you were wondering why the Zimmerman case was interesting. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#83
Sorry if I misunderstood you.	rhett o rick	Apr 2012	#139
Risk what? What's to risk? Power has been manipulating everything from early history to the	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#70
I don't think this case is turning out to be a good career move for the police chief or the SA	onenote	Apr 2012	#71
You're right about that. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#76
You could be right, but isn't it something that Zimmerman is being treated like VIP, and such	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#19
Father was a justice of the peace.	Kaleva	Apr 2012	#32
Yup. A magistrate judge. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#55
Just "magistrate" not "magistrate judge"	onenote	Apr 2012	#92
I think that a more important question is was daddyzimmy did PRIOR to becoming a magistrate	Ecumenist	Apr 2012	#141
I agree. How long has it been since Zimmerman shot the child? And STILL he runs free. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#144
Maybe the three previous closed cases are an example of his ability to pull strings?	Baitball Blogger	Apr 2012	#59
If so he really is a very very powerful guy.	onenote	Apr 2012	#69
We have lawyers in the area with 8 DUIs	Baitball Blogger	Apr 2012	#74
How on earth does the grandfather being in the CIA	Travelman	Apr 2012	#24
The father is possible CIA also. Recall the 25 year career gap?	slampoet	Apr 2012	#31
Don't even need a college degree to be one in Virginia	Kaleva	Apr 2012	#35
That is totally irrelevant to the topic.	leveymg	Apr 2012	#42
Was he actually a judge?	Kaleva	Apr 2012	#44
Magistrate judges do the same job as any judge. In 3 of the litigated cases I manage, the	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#57
A judge with no requirement for a law degree? For even a college degree?	hack89	Apr 2012	#60
In 24 states across the country, judges don’t need a law degree to serve on certain courts.	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#65
So why do you think being a Virginia magistrate	hack89	Apr 2012	#66
Why does power function as power? Because power and money wield power since time	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#68
But you have yet to show he has either power or money.	hack89	Apr 2012	#93
Shoeshine person? How low do you dream of making him to make him seem insignficant? Give me an	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#102
He was a magistrate for six years	hack89	Apr 2012	#107
Question. I know you're a pro-gun, gun lover. No mystery about that. But would you defend anyone	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#109
I am on record as saying Zimerman broke the law and should be arrested.	hack89	Apr 2012	#110
My reply	Kaleva	Apr 2012	#63
Here's how magistrate is viewed: "A magistrate is an officer of the state; in modern usa...	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#67
Zimmerman's father was a low level judicial officer...	Kaleva	Apr 2012	#86
Next thing you know, Zimmerman's father will be said to have fried burgers at McDonald's lol	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#90
Well, you certainly tried hard to make him more then he was.	Kaleva	Apr 2012	#103
There are 2 of you on this forum who long to make him a server at a local fast food joint, just to	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#104
It is hard to believe that a judicial officer for 6 years...	Kaleva	Apr 2012	#112
No - we just want you to present some actual facts	hack89	Apr 2012	#113
Magistrates in Virginia do not do the same job as any judge	onenote	Apr 2012	#95
VA Magistrates issue warrants, subpoenas, summonses. They're Judges.	leveymg	Apr 2012	#97
And any judge in Virginia will tell you that they're not.	onenote	Apr 2012	#100
What, exactly, is your point? Are you implying that George getting off twice did not have anything	leveymg	Apr 2012	#108
The only relevance is that some folks are misdescribing what his father's job was.	onenote	Apr 2012	#115
I haven't seen any evidence that Zimmerman's father's...	Kaleva	Apr 2012	#118
Wow, way to dodge the question.	slampoet	Apr 2012	#116
Info on Robert Zimmeran	Kaleva	Apr 2012	#129
Who says there's a 25 year gap.	Kaleva	Apr 2012	#120
OK. Why would the CIA protect a cop wanna be	HooptieWagon	Apr 2012	#43
It isn't the cia it is connection gotten while in their employ.	slampoet	Apr 2012	#114
Well, I doubt the SA or Chief of Police are ex CIA	HooptieWagon	Apr 2012	#122
Or they have secrets that Zimmerman's dad dug up on them	mainer	Apr 2012	#123
and Church and KKK connections are EXACTLY the kind of things a CIA operative collects.	slampoet	Apr 2012	#125
CIA not allowed to spy domestically.	HooptieWagon	Apr 2012	#130
Valerie Plame lived in the US	mainer	Apr 2012	#131
She wasnt carrying out a domestic operation though	HooptieWagon	Apr 2012	#135
Who said Robert J was carrying out any domestic operations?	mainer	Apr 2012	#136
The speculation was that he used CIA contacts	HooptieWagon	Apr 2012	#137
Only when the turds cross the Rubicon to come and float around for a while--before the flush. n/t	Horse with no Name	Apr 2012	#78
So did Grandpappy Bush	Horse with no Name	Apr 2012	#82
Grampa Zimmerman supposedly "died" 20 years ago	whistler162	Apr 2012	#138
More like 13 years ago. Not speculation, comparing his obit with info that's been released about	HiPointDem	Apr 2012	#176
No it does not	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#9
Zimmerman called Daddy, Daddy made some calls.	Amerigo Vespucci	Apr 2012	#18
That's what I think. When someone is facing the possibility of capital punishment, why not.	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#21
Yup, that he did	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#22
There are 100 different ways Pappy Zim could have made that first call after hearing from Georgie	Amerigo Vespucci	Apr 2012	#26
Local area connects and developing them is in the CIA handbook.	slampoet	Apr 2012	#28
I happen to live in an area with a lot of retired CIA folks.	mainer	Apr 2012	#12
My grandpa worked for the CIA	XemaSab	Apr 2012	#15
By some peope's logic, yup.	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2012	#23
Maybe you could just click "alert" for starters and try the bullet if that fails	Amerigo Vespucci	Apr 2012	#27
I have a list too	Horse with no Name	Apr 2012	#85
Where were you when Walt Starr was tomnbstoned?	Dr. Strange	Apr 2012	#94
Haha	joshcryer	Apr 2012	#146
I read the link that was posted and deleted	EmeraldCityGrl	Apr 2012	#29
Interesting info	JustAnotherGen	Apr 2012	#34
NY Times says grandfather was "Army Intelligence"	Justice4allofus	Apr 2012	#36
Both might be true. Remember, before there was a CIA it was called Military Intel.	slampoet	Apr 2012	#37
I had a HS teacher (early 70s) who was a retired army colonel	HooptieWagon	Apr 2012	#46
I had a similar teacher on loan from the Naval War College.	slampoet	Apr 2012	#111
My father	JustAnotherGen	Apr 2012	#98
I think the family was trying to AVOID scrutiny when they got George off	mainer	Apr 2012	#39
I'm going out on a limb here and proposing a vastly more complicated explanation.	Warren Stupidity	Apr 2012	#45
+1	onenote	Apr 2012	#47
+1000. My God, with all these CIA fantasies	COLGATE4	Apr 2012	#89
I think you have it.	MineralMan	Apr 2012	#91
Bingo	HooptieWagon	Apr 2012	#132
zimmerman doesn't seem to be especially connected. he worked as a security guard, notoriously	HiPointDem	Apr 2012	#162
Church, fraternal orgs, chamber of commerce, etc	HooptieWagon	Apr 2012	#175
Weird coincidence about our Consul General in Barcelona	DFW	Apr 2012	#48
Thanks, it's interesting. I lived in Spain (not with the military or anything - I was married to a	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#79
Yes, I had been wondering about your Basque name	DFW	Apr 2012	#117
It sure wasn't! I'm sure you know that nowadays the skeletons of the Franco supporters	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#128
This post was hidden by jury decision.	Az_Patriot	Apr 2012	#145
Isn't the color of his skin the more likely reason? nt	hack89	Apr 2012	#49
That's the reason the murder took place, for sure. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#50
And why the cops automatically took his side. nt	hack89	Apr 2012	#54
Read grandfather's career recollections: in S. America during the "Dirty War" & in Franco's Spain	leveymg	Apr 2012	#51
great find! n/t	librechik	Apr 2012	#53
Clear that the grandfather has an intelligence service background	onenote	Apr 2012	#56
Thanks for pointing this out. He was indeed a "State Dept. spook." I know of at least 2 ex-CIA	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#62
My experience is similar	onenote	Apr 2012	#72
$35,000? nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#75
Salary for magistrates in Virginia	onenote	Apr 2012	#84
In case you wanted to see his face, here's Zimmerman's father, the "magistrate"....	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#88
Still has that military flattop. Guess it becomes him.	leveymg	Apr 2012	#99
Not just that. The fact that he won't show his face is very telling. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#101
One could say, if he really believes George is innocent, he'd publicly stand right behind him.	leveymg	Apr 2012	#105
I think you're probably right. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#106
It's the Grandfather, Robert W appears to have been a State Dept. spook. The father was military -	leveymg	Apr 2012	#96
I have a extended family member like that...	EmeraldCityGrl	Apr 2012	#77
Isn't it amazing how far money can stretch with certain connections? nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#81
Here's Robert W. Zimmerman - '60 Diplomatic List, Madrid, Zimmerman, Robert W., 1st sec; pol. ofl.	leveymg	Apr 2012	#119
This post was hidden by jury decision.	trollhouse cookies	Apr 2012	#58
Because it's not a "theory" that George's grandpa worked intelligence	mainer	Apr 2012	#61
This post was hidden by jury decision.	trollhouse cookies	Apr 2012	#64
An astute poster	EmeraldCityGrl	Apr 2012	#87
Find evidence of Zimmerman's connections influencing the handling of this case and get back to me.	Vattel	Apr 2012	#121
Find evidence reflecting Cheney the prick's influence over the oil industry and get back to me	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#124
I am not demanding legal proof.	Vattel	Apr 2012	#133
If there's no legal proof, there's a lot of speculation. In fact, speculation is almost all of what	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#134
Thanks for treating me like your BOY.	slampoet	Apr 2012	#126
Proof of anything usually starts with a hypothesis	mainer	Apr 2012	#127
so many assumptions	arely staircase	Apr 2012	#140
I don't think anyone is thinking the cops were lazy. In fact, I think that's the last supposition	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#143
This post was hidden by jury decision.	kmarx1917	Apr 2012	#147
And you joined Democratic Underground TODAY to post this, huh? nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#148
yep	kmarx1917	Apr 2012	#151
You didn't realize the day you join DU shows on your profile	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#153
My crystal ball says...	NYC_SKP	Apr 2012	#154
He joined a few minutes ago, and was clueless he'd be figured out nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#155
Very Stealthy!	NYC_SKP	Apr 2012	#156
Yes! His post is already hidden. I think it's funny. He's not the only one that tried this nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#157
And now, PPRed.	NYC_SKP	Apr 2012	#158
I see that. Why do "they" do this to themselves? A desire to suffer? nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#159
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This post was hidden by jury decision.	got caught	Apr 2012	#160
I'd also like to know your thoughts on...	kmarx1917	Apr 2012	#149
So where do you usually hang out that you had to join DU today to post this? nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Apr 2012	#150
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It appears that Robert W. Zimmerman died in 1999	Kaleva	Apr 2012	#142
And I hear some say his great-grandfather was a Pinkerton...	cherokeeprogressive	Apr 2012	#161
got a link for that? that would be interesting.	HiPointDem	Apr 2012	#163
Nah. It's just what I heard some people saying...	cherokeeprogressive	Apr 2012	#164
ah, i see. you were joking. zimmerman's grandpa actually was intelligence, though. that's	HiPointDem	Apr 2012	#165
Yes but as some other posters have pointed out...	cherokeeprogressive	Apr 2012	#166
a little favoritism	fascisthunter	Apr 2012	#169
So anyone who had a grandfather in the CIA can kill whoever they want without recourse?	ButterflyBlood	Apr 2012	#172
I find this post reaching. n/t	vaberella	Apr 2012	#173
well.... you'd know about reaching	fascisthunter	Apr 2012	#174

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