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sofa king

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24. I think evil is real.
Sun May 25, 2014, 08:24 AM
May 2014

I think that most humans (as with most animals) have a biological inhibition against killing one another or causing one another severe harm.

That inhibition seems to be very closely related to empathy, the ability to recognize the emotions of other people (and some critters).

So that's evil to me: the willingness to do deliberate harm to people for inadequate reasons. In order to be that way, one has to lack empathy for others most or all of the time (one can also be mechanically trained to do so, which is how most modern soldiers are trained; but the overwhelming majority of those folks do not commit acts of evil in civilized society, as Republican politicians do).

Some of us, like Dick Cheney, have little to no empathy for most others, except of course his own offspring, which is why Cheney's one progressive opinion (in favor of gay marriage) happens to be the one that would benefit his own child. Cheney doesn't give a fuck about any of the rest of us; we're as insignificant to him as the tens of thousands he had tortured, murdered, and dumped in the streets of Iraq.

Dick Cheney has publicly displayed virtually all of the criteria needed for a psychologist to make a diagnosis of anti-social personality disorder--as close as it gets to the Hollywood villain in real life:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder

Cheney's ignorant pawn, George W. Bush, also lacks empathy most of the time. This permitted Bush to okay stealing elections, lying to start a war, torture, murder, frequently dropping his dog onto pavement, and so on. But Bush seems to have publicly displayed most of the criteria needed to make a different diagnosis, of Narcissistic Personality Disorder:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

The interesting thing about narcissists is that while they also are capable of acting with malice, sooner or later their beat-down Jiminy Cricket of a conscience turns into a locust, and rips the self esteem of the subject to shreds. The narcissist is prone to "moments of clarity" and subsequent deep depression, in part out of regret for their own actions.

That is probably the answer to the question, "why did George W. take two years of vacation during his tenure as President?" My guess is that a team of psychologists and family members were desperately working behind the scenes to re-inflate the ego of this broken and incompetent person, who can only function when he believes the lies he tells about himself.

It's almost certainly why Bush paints now, because unlike Dick Cheney, Shrub is not immune to the scratches of the Furies who will pursue him to his much-deserved grave. Look at this picture again, knowing Bush is a narcissist who has done unspeakable evil, and cannot forget it:



Here's a guy who can't look at himself full in the face in a painting of a reflection in a fucking mirror. Because he hates himself for the evil he has done and it gnaws at his very soul. That's hardly punishment for what he has done, but it's nice to know that W, at least, cannot escape himself.

So there's two evil people and how they excuse themselves for it (Cheney: easily; Bush, never). It's possible to be co-morbid with both APD and NPD. I think Mitt Romney was one of those rare birds; fortunately, his evil was easier for most to see.

Case closed blkmusclmachine May 2014 #1
Personally, I think Bush was an argument for the "Banality Of Evil". Himself not evil as Per se. Katashi_itto May 2014 #2
Evil is the act of attempting to remove something, esp. another person from existence McCamy Taylor May 2014 #3
Agree. I also think it's an effort to explain away BainsBane May 2014 #4
Well said Fairgo May 2014 #6
That's not just false, it's blindingly obviously false. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #12
Nope. Those criminals put themselves above others and thus felt justified. nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2014 #14
Your blind faith in the face of evidence to the contrary is depressing. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #15
Oh, get off the personal podium and try a real discussion. nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2014 #18
The insane have no moral compass. So, they are not evil. They are chaotic. McCamy Taylor May 2014 #43
You make a good point. Good versus evil often is just evil (if evil concept is useful) Bernardo de La Paz May 2014 #17
That is predicated on the assumption that the existence of a thing was first Good. Nuclear Unicorn May 2014 #28
No way. There are people who are indeed "evil" Drahthaardogs May 2014 #38
To me evil is. Notafraidtoo May 2014 #5
Evil is defined as Unknown Beatle May 2014 #7
Yes. ananda May 2014 #8
I don't think evil is a tangible force per se, but I think a person would have to be naive to... Shandris May 2014 #9
Evil is the willingness to make others suffer for one's own wants (and needs in some cases). The MillennialDem May 2014 #10
No-one is just plain evil; some people are plain evil. Donald Ian Rankin May 2014 #11
Then do you have to say everyone is more or less mentally ill? Bernardo de La Paz May 2014 #13
There seems to be a body of data and information..... DeSwiss May 2014 #16
Evil per se does not exist but there are evil people. hobbit709 May 2014 #19
There's also Aquinas's argument that evil "doesn't exist" but is real Recursion May 2014 #20
Ys, it exists and yes, some people are just evil Prophet 451 May 2014 #21
Of course evil exists. And some people are just plain evil. Vattel May 2014 #22
Yes, and yes! nt kelliekat44 May 2014 #23
I think evil is real. sofa king May 2014 #24
wow, that was a fabulous analysis. redruddyred May 2014 #29
I doubt Bush thinks he did anything wrong. phil89 May 2014 #31
Yes, usually. sofa king May 2014 #32
Wonderful reading, although Bush may simply not have the mental capacity to realize "Chance The Katashi_itto May 2014 #33
evil = selfishness dawg May 2014 #25
To me, Shankapotomus May 2014 #26
That's an interesting theory. Inkfreak May 2014 #30
as a noun or an adjective? nt arely staircase May 2014 #27
The exact definition of evil is not as important as being aware of how we use the word. cheyanne May 2014 #34
Evil may be relative to individual beliefs and social constructs, and, who knows? Maybe even Zorra May 2014 #35
Categorizing someone as "evil" dehumanizes them TBF May 2014 #36
Or is the sick society a result of a few GWBush's and Kochs that sell the system? adirondacker May 2014 #45
Personally I would answer that it is not TBF May 2014 #46
I think you are correct on both accounts and appreciate your post. nt adirondacker May 2014 #47
If no one is evil, then no one is good. Android3.14 May 2014 #37
In response to your title... Yes, and Yes.... N/T Ghost in the Machine May 2014 #39
I don't think there Jamaal510 May 2014 #40
Evil is just Live spelled backwards! bpollen May 2014 #41
Honey Boo Boo is the essence of pure evil! L0oniX May 2014 #42
True...True Katashi_itto May 2014 #44
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