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Harmony Blue

(3,978 posts)
126. I wasn't born with advantages
Tue May 13, 2014, 08:08 PM
May 2014

I was actually born with more disadvantages but it requires a level of empathy many of the close minded (in this thread) truly lack. The blonde, blue eyed, pale whites ostracize me for not being white enough while non whites blame me for what the top 1% of whites have done to this world (apex fallacy) against non-white past and present. I have no identity or allegiance to a race or ethnicity. I am the lone light in the darkness and I have embraced the realization. I am alone and I have to things on my own.

Why should I have a vested interest in helping people that hate me because I am white? Because I am a human. But at some point you have to consider walking way from it all and let the rest of the world sort their own chaos in the universe.

To answer a question a person posted. The approach hasn't worked because a lot of Italians, Greeks, Iranians, and Romani have been treated as outcasts for a long time in the United States. And yet they started at the bottom and worked their way to the top. If you want to argue privilege it doesn't make logical sense if you understand American history.... Most Baptists, Protestants, and Lutherans looked down on these people as sub human.

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I feel so sorry for you. ret5hd May 2014 #1
Growing up a white male in a poor family... Buddyblazon May 2014 #170
Did you ever have to kill your own food? Scootaloo May 2014 #198
The ol' "One Upper"... Buddyblazon May 2014 #204
Nobody here hates you for being white Scootaloo May 2014 #219
+1000000 Jamastiene May 2014 #272
GASP! You had to pay rent while going to college? Jamastiene May 2014 #276
lol Whisp May 2014 #2
Hold on. I've got something here BainsBane May 2014 #3
+ infinity nomorenomore08 May 2014 #143
I get the impression that he doesn't aid or care for others and wonders why others forsake him. TheBlackAdder May 2014 #250
Yeah, but this one is a change of pace BainsBane May 2014 #252
That reply said quite a lot in so few words. nt TheBlackAdder May 2014 #255
Redefining "the white man's burden"? mulsh May 2014 #4
He who can, must. Sheepshank May 2014 #5
Well speaking a a white man, we seem to have caused all the ills of society. William769 May 2014 #6
Yeah, I suppose we did cause this Boka Haram kidnapping didn't we? CANDO May 2014 #33
Well we damn sure didn't stop it now did we? William769 May 2014 #34
No... but we damn sure did use it to reinforce and validate our petulance LanternWaste May 2014 #38
Post removed Post removed May 2014 #46
Extremist groups, including Islamist groups, in impoverished tblue37 May 2014 #95
EXACTLY laundry_queen May 2014 #155
Every now and then my teaching gene presses me into explaining tblue37 May 2014 #215
I was going to point that out; but, ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #265
I used to enjoy a bit of melodramatic self-martyrdom too. LanternWaste May 2014 #7
I suppose we all might feel "petulant and under-appreciated" from time to time. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #145
Awwww..... Sheldon Cooper May 2014 #8
+1 nomorenomore08 May 2014 #146
I guess you don't know the Irish weren't considered white BainsBane May 2014 #9
"I guess you don't know the Irish weren't considered white" TBH, I think that was actually part..... AverageJoe90 May 2014 #26
No, Feral Child May 2014 #40
That's the opposite of the point he was trying to make. cyberswede May 2014 #49
It's performance art, right? redqueen May 2014 #50
Why else do you think he posted the link on Irish Americans? AverageJoe90 May 2014 #54
He was trying to point out that white people have been discriminated against cyberswede May 2014 #56
Dude below, I'm half Irish BainsBane May 2014 #59
And that actually has happened. The treatment of the Irish was a great example of that. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #60
They weren't discriminated against because they were white... cyberswede May 2014 #63
"They weren't discriminated against because they were white..." That's not what I said, though. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #70
I didn't say you said it... cyberswede May 2014 #76
Well, okay then. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #79
At most, it's white people being discriminated against *by white people*. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #148
many help wanted Niceguy1 May 2014 #64
...because they weren't perceived as "white." nt cyberswede May 2014 #65
No, they were discriminated against BainsBane May 2014 #134
the irish were considered Niceguy1 May 2014 #201
You want unity, listen to those who live the experiences instead of boston bean May 2014 #210
Your version of unity is one that ignores an already existing divide BainsBane May 2014 #212
white people wrote those signs. or should I say whiter people, because that is what the belief was. bettyellen May 2014 #217
It's damn. Just damn. BainsBane May 2014 #133
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #266
How so? He's trying to downplay the history of racism in America by going "See? White people have nomorenomore08 May 2014 #147
Post removed Post removed May 2014 #39
What a steaming load of bollocks. riqster May 2014 #10
I have to take issue with a part of what you wrote ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #269
We are, among white people. riqster May 2014 #281
Please take this as educational ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #284
I'd say none of these distinctions are based on race. riqster May 2014 #285
While I appreciate your opinion ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #286
I hear you. I am not advocating some sort of dehumanizing loss of uniqueness. riqster May 2014 #287
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #291
Thanks to you as well for tolerating my unorthodox POV. riqster May 2014 #292
It's called ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #296
Indeed. And all too rare in these times. riqster May 2014 #297
I neglected to mention, I am a big proponent of the third option. riqster May 2014 #298
Absolutely ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #299
^THIS. Jamastiene May 2014 #273
Wow, if only white men could be in charge of something Lex May 2014 #11
Brilliant! riqster May 2014 #30
I might have to embroider this on a pillow TorchTheWitch May 2014 #68
Posting in adoration! Starry Messenger May 2014 #71
OK you just made this thread worth reading gollygee May 2014 #72
You win the internet :) Marrah_G May 2014 #77
+1 uponit7771 May 2014 #101
well, some do think everything was great until the black guy got there and now things are the worst JI7 May 2014 #119
I love how people purposefully miss the point adigal May 2014 #124
So let me get this right. Lex May 2014 #135
You are so very welcome! adigal May 2014 #267
So at best, you could say they've (partially) cleaned up their own messes... n/t nomorenomore08 May 2014 #149
I don't agree that white men solve most of the problems Harmony Blue May 2014 #205
Not sure to what you are referring adigal May 2014 #268
This is the point at which somebody inevitably says... Hippo_Tron May 2014 #138
Yeah! Make it so! Oh, wait....... Nay May 2014 #140
Or, if white men could just .... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #270
LoL. myrna minx May 2014 #12
hmm... a little cheez to go with your whine: chervilant May 2014 #13
Historically, and presently in some circles, white men are the cause of a lot of problems. NuclearDem May 2014 #14
^^^^^ Iggo May 2014 #24
Well stated. Thanks wavesofeuphoria May 2014 #100
But what you wrote here hfojvt May 2014 #106
How about what some white people do in the present? Donald Sterling, sadly, is likely not nomorenomore08 May 2014 #150
I feel like I'm watching Fox News. Ed Suspicious May 2014 #15
+1 redqueen May 2014 #20
The OP made me LOL, but your comment has me ROFLMAO! boston bean May 2014 #22
I'm hoping this is one of those "last gasp" things I have heard about.... bettyellen May 2014 #16
I don't think anyone expects you to solve all the problems of this society, stage left May 2014 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Demo_Chris May 2014 #18
No, you're not. Iggo May 2014 #19
this white man has no power to cause any ills leftyohiolib May 2014 #21
You're neither blamed as an individual nor charged with solving the problems. Gormy Cuss May 2014 #23
Thanks for trying, once again. boston bean May 2014 #27
I have a couple of questions: Eleanors38 May 2014 #48
In many cases, it's the angry refusal to believe. PeaceNikki May 2014 #52
1) It's the message. Gormy Cuss May 2014 #61
This has gone on for decades. Any improvement? Eleanors38 May 2014 #62
Not with those who would like to deny it. boston bean May 2014 #66
Maybe the methodology needs to change. Eleanors38 May 2014 #90
Yeah, I am when people are hurting others. I want to deny them from hurting others any longer. boston bean May 2014 #91
We can certainly keep them away from progressive discussion boards. If we really want to. n/t nomorenomore08 May 2014 #151
Well we don't have separate bathrooms anymore....so there is that! VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #69
Sounds like you don't see much improvement. Maybe Eleanors38 May 2014 #92
I have seen alot of improvement... VanillaRhapsody May 2014 #93
And women certainly didn't keep their mouths shut to effect change. boston bean May 2014 #94
Why, yes! The president women first voted for: Harding. Eleanors38 May 2014 #136
How long did it take for women's suffrage to be accepted? To end poll taxes? Gormy Cuss May 2014 #98
It is indeed. Eleanors38 May 2014 #121
Would you believe white people if they conceded WP? Eleanors38 May 2014 #209
I will answer your questions honestly: Harmony Blue May 2014 #207
The questions I have asked often go unanswered: Eleanors38 May 2014 #208
I wish we could recommend individual posts. Thank you. uppityperson May 2014 #73
I wasn't born with advantages Harmony Blue May 2014 #126
Your vested interest is in ending hate. Gormy Cuss May 2014 #130
Can't end hate if there is no communication or open dialogue Harmony Blue May 2014 #206
There is an open dialogue here on this topic. Gormy Cuss May 2014 #211
Snark and belittlement of opposing view points Harmony Blue May 2014 #220
Have I snarked on you? Belittled your viewpoint? Gormy Cuss May 2014 #242
So what do you think explains the relative lack of African-American wealth and achievement? nomorenomore08 May 2014 #153
To be blunt prvilege has nothing to do with the fact Harmony Blue May 2014 #224
This made me feel sick to my stomach. bravenak May 2014 #228
I didn't even know how to reply to his post. myrna minx May 2014 #230
This just means i need to log out. bravenak May 2014 #232
You're a wonderful person, bravenak. myrna minx May 2014 #235
I'm good. bravenak May 2014 #236
+1 nomorenomore08 May 2014 #243
If it's any small comfort, I got my first-ever hidden post in relation to that poster. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #245
Thats messed up. bravenak May 2014 #247
I'm sorry. I'm kind of in disbelief myself. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #248
Used to it. bravenak May 2014 #251
I agree. Enthusiast May 2014 #278
Kinda gross. bravenak May 2014 #288
What an absolutely ignorant and sickening post. myrna minx May 2014 #229
You should do me a solid and self delete this post. bravenak May 2014 #233
"more and more men (especially black men) are incarcerated" disproportionately indeed due to that pr uppityperson May 2014 #238
Like the freakin' Duggars? Oh, but they are white so. . . . nt tblue37 Aug 2014 #305
Holy crap. gollygee May 2014 #239
One benefit of juries leaving your awful posts to stand is that you're getting braver. redqueen May 2014 #240
Scratch a misogynist, find a racist. Starry Messenger May 2014 #241
+10000000000 nt redqueen May 2014 #259
So it's not the legacy of centuries of racism, they're just deadbeats and have too many kids? nomorenomore08 May 2014 #244
What about all the other reasons black men are incarcerated? JustAnotherGen May 2014 #260
Notice he hasn't replied to any actual black people on this thread... nomorenomore08 May 2014 #261
Just catching up this morning JustAnotherGen May 2014 #283
Those are offensive and hurtful remarks BainsBane May 2014 #263
WOW. bettyellen May 2014 #271
WTF? Jamastiene May 2014 #274
Your's are precisely the same talking points that we hear from Fox "News". Enthusiast May 2014 #279
LOL. Ever since you joined DU and began to spout libertarian talking points Cali_Democrat May 2014 #289
This is actually WRONG!!! The rate of out of wedlock births among ALL races has Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2014 #293
disgusting rubbish. Whisp May 2014 #295
I feel your heaven05 Jun 2014 #300
You should have seen his thread about the isla vista shooter. bravenak Jun 2014 #303
of course you agree with Cosby's bullshit noiretextatique Jun 2014 #304
It is the absolute height of irony for you to invoke the empathy card. nt laundry_queen May 2014 #162
Some good stuff here. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #25
. Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #28
Stealing. bravenak May 2014 #152
! Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #186
Yea, we need WHITE MAN'S ANONYMOUS ! steve2470 May 2014 #29
This is just like MRA bullshit, but from a racial angle. boston bean May 2014 #31
+1 nomorenomore08 May 2014 #158
lol. poor poor white men. Who will stand up and protect the poor persecuted white men???? PeaceNikki May 2014 #32
For reals! Being a white male kicks ass! FrodosPet May 2014 #163
Mirror: Feral Child May 2014 #35
LOL! bravenak May 2014 #36
Ha! JustAnotherGen May 2014 #82
This is why the majority of white men aren't democrats. McDiggy May 2014 #37
wut? PeaceNikki May 2014 #41
Must be hard not feeling like #1 anymore, eh? Uppity women going to college, bettyellen May 2014 #43
College? Men haven't gone to college en masse for a while now. McDiggy May 2014 #67
Or Feral Child May 2014 #45
... NuclearDem May 2014 #53
I've never heard a REAL liberal ever say or imply a white man's problems are meaningless steve2470 May 2014 #55
I've seen it on this forum. McDiggy May 2014 #74
you don't get it. PeaceNikki May 2014 #84
It's okay laundry_queen May 2014 #165
No, liberals tell them their problems aren't superior to others' problems. Lex May 2014 #78
Where'd you pick up that shit? Over at the daily paul? This is not the DU I came to love. Tarheel_Dem May 2014 #85
Is that why YOU aren't a Democrat? PeaceNikki May 2014 #87
wow.. are you even paying half way attention to the issues brought up here? uponit7771 May 2014 #102
Some truth to that, but we can't allow the far right to escape blame, either. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #103
You are strawman city here gollygee May 2014 #110
I didn't mention either of these two things, gollygee. Not at all. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #112
Here's what you wrote gollygee May 2014 #113
I didn't mention either of those two things. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #116
Even assuming that a few folks here and there subscribe to these extreme views, so what? nomorenomore08 May 2014 #173
Who are the extremists you think you need to correct here? nt redqueen May 2014 #118
Random people on Tumblr/blogs who have no real power or influence over anything? nomorenomore08 May 2014 #168
Of course being poor sucks, but it doesn't mean you get to trash minorities/gays/women. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #160
+1 YoungDemCA May 2014 #223
Fuck a bunch of CEOs. Enthusiast May 2014 #280
No... you Dorian Gray May 2014 #42
open racism... Ohio Joe May 2014 #44
Oh, give me a break. Honestly. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #51
Downplaying the issues faced by racial minorities while claiming to be persecuted as a white man? nomorenomore08 May 2014 #175
The points about white privilege are factual, why does that bother you? uponit7771 May 2014 #104
Since you like links and reading, I have some for you. PeaceNikki May 2014 #47
Thank you for posting those. nt redqueen May 2014 #58
+1 nt laundry_queen May 2014 #167
+2 nomorenomore08 May 2014 #176
Harmony is part of your name? really? HERVEPA May 2014 #57
and don't forget the Blue..... bettyellen May 2014 #218
You are right about one thing Puzzledtraveller May 2014 #75
... TDale313 May 2014 #80
One comment about your post. BULLSHIT lostincalifornia May 2014 #81
"No one knows what it's like to be the sad maaaaan..." Starry Messenger May 2014 #83
Oh, now I'm gonna have that song in my head all day. TDale313 May 2014 #86
Good thing I was on my phone, I was going to post video too. :) Starry Messenger May 2014 #117
Funny, I have blue eyes. And I've been known to suffer from chronic depression. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #177
... Enthusiast May 2014 #282
No one thinks you, personally, are responsible. TeacherB87 May 2014 #88
The image that should accompany this thread: YoungDemCA May 2014 #89
As a relatively privileged white woman, I'm open to any and all honest awareness, and honest effort ancianita May 2014 #96
"...create space which allows the privileged to be their best selves." nomorenomore08 May 2014 #178
Agreed. ancianita May 2014 #213
This whole debate reminds me of an episode of 30 Rock. Initech May 2014 #97
+1 uponit7771 May 2014 #105
Start eating worms right now, if you aren't already. nt raccoon May 2014 #99
Good news: You can take a breather and stop worrying. Zenlitened May 2014 #107
"Other folks... ask only that you avoid interrupting their work." nomorenomore08 May 2014 #187
In my opinion SaltyBro May 2014 #108
IKR!? IT is as if white men had some kind of negative history with other races or something! Rex May 2014 #109
Bravo! SaltyBro May 2014 #111
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #156
Empathy is a two way street, and both sides seem to lack it. Shandris May 2014 #114
I can't really blame you, TBH. AverageJoe90 May 2014 #120
So what makes you (or any individual) a "voice of reason" over and above others? nomorenomore08 May 2014 #188
TBH..... bravenak May 2014 #190
If you are part of the problem, then you deserve the blame. DrewFlorida May 2014 #115
I'm so white I'm not guilted by the white guilt trips. joshcryer May 2014 #122
I feel no particular "white guilt" either. Funny that. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #189
I find it silly to get worked up over something I have no control over. joshcryer May 2014 #191
I rarely come here, because there isn't really serious discussion here adigal May 2014 #123
So your point is that people dont post anything serious. I hope you see the irony. nm rhett o rick May 2014 #125
so of the mulitude of topics up for discussion Skittles May 2014 #144
I gather this thread was created for sympathy which you did not receive. Gravitycollapse May 2014 #127
A) Yes, Harmony Blue, I blame you for all the ills of society. Because it's all about you. Squinch May 2014 #128
Good point cyberswede May 2014 #139
+1 nt laundry_queen May 2014 #169
Oh there is a tiny handful of women supporting the handful redqueen May 2014 #225
I was going to say before I read your last paragraph, "But it's just the usual suspects." Squinch May 2014 #237
But I thought everything was Obama's fault? Oh just the white side of him SummerSnow May 2014 #129
You perpetuate "white privilege" every day... wittingly OR unwittingly. cherokeeprogressive May 2014 #131
What is a perpuator? n/t Jamastiene May 2014 #275
Time for a sad violin kwassa May 2014 #132
It's ironic that these pathetic posts perpetuate the issue of whites being seen as the ones who.. RedCappedBandit May 2014 #137
It is eye opening is it not? Harmony Blue May 2014 #226
Please do not fall under the impression that I am in agreement with your OP RedCappedBandit May 2014 #227
I hope the OP sees that hardly anyone on the thread agrees with him. That's important if we want to nomorenomore08 May 2014 #262
You're so clueless that you can't even tell when someone is being sarcastic... Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2014 #294
And black/Latino males aren't? *Constantly*??? nomorenomore08 May 2014 #141
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #159
"Historical advantages" are only one part of it. The mere fact that you're a white person nomorenomore08 May 2014 #161
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #164
So when have you been, say, hassled by cops for being white? nomorenomore08 May 2014 #166
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #172
Then why are the millions of people in prison so disproportionately black? nomorenomore08 May 2014 #179
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #192
Damn, wish I could've seen his reply... But thanks, MIRT! nomorenomore08 May 2014 #195
In some neighborhoods in Detroit, the police have been known to pull over whites FrodosPet May 2014 #174
True. No one said (or implied) that all individual white folks have it easy. n/t nomorenomore08 May 2014 #180
Why we all should have a vested interest FrodosPet May 2014 #171
As a white guy, I can tell you...white folks HATE talk of white privilege. U4ikLefty May 2014 #142
Frankly, I'm almost glad the majority of my friends aren't white (even though I am). nomorenomore08 May 2014 #181
ahh, jeez. SheilaT May 2014 #154
Great post. You seem like the sort of conscientious, empathetic person I try my best to be. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #183
We all have our limitations. SheilaT May 2014 #194
We should all feel great shame for merely drawing breath, evidently. Skip Intro May 2014 #157
And the award for Strawman of the Century goes to... nomorenomore08 May 2014 #184
How so? Skip Intro May 2014 #185
Because you're greatly exaggerating people's animus towards you. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #196
You replied to me, "strawman." Again - how so? Skip Intro May 2014 #197
Because no one (or virtually no one) on here literally hates straight white males. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #199
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #182
So the gist that I'm getting from the majority of these posts... Buddyblazon May 2014 #193
And here I thought defacto7 May 2014 #200
Rudyard Kipling, is that you? merrily May 2014 #202
white men are expected to solve all the problems? Skittles May 2014 #203
No one blames me for the ills of society. I feel very little guilt, and even so, only for ... dawg May 2014 #214
Should have thought this out a little more before hitting post. NCTraveler May 2014 #216
No Harmony Blue May 2014 #221
What does Snowden have to do with discussions of privilege? YoungDemCA May 2014 #222
An excuse to change the subject, I suppose. n/t nomorenomore08 May 2014 #246
Just an excuse not to listen to people BainsBane May 2014 #253
Huh? Aren't you the op? nt. NCTraveler May 2014 #290
Very disgusting op. bravenak May 2014 #231
While white supremacists like Rick Scott and Scott Walker and Ohio ALL con governors are actively randys1 May 2014 #254
I should have remembered to wait my turn. bravenak May 2014 #256
I am there with you randys1 May 2014 #257
understanding zach.magee May 2014 #234
Do you even realize the irony, of complaining about being broadbrushed as a white person nomorenomore08 May 2014 #249
By the way what you said was bad. bravenak May 2014 #258
I agree BainsBane May 2014 #264
No one bats an eye at that BainsBane Jun 2014 #301
Yes it does. bravenak Jun 2014 #302
"elitist" "arrogant" Jamastiene May 2014 #277
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