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BainsBane

(53,001 posts)
189. Well, to be fair
Tue May 6, 2014, 06:26 PM
May 2014

I'm far less concerned about what she says than how some here have decided to use it as a club against feminism. Yes, she is young and likely spent more time trying to get into the movies than getting an education (just a guess based on her age). If she stays in Hollywood, she will be forced to figure it out as she ages; the place is not kind to women over a certain age. What I was really pissed off at last night when I made that post, however, was how this statement is being used by those who oppose feminism and "all isms" in order to promote their privileged worldview where they and only people who look and think like them have a right to raise issues in public. If a person isn't, white, male, and/ or hostile to views of everyone else, they insist their speech is illegitimate, be it about issues of racism, sexism, or anything else.

Mmmmmmm ... 1000words May 2014 #1
Time has definitely jumped the shark etherealtruth May 2014 #2
Well yes . . .but sometime in the 80s I would have said el_bryanto May 2014 #4
Very true .... etherealtruth May 2014 #7
Between this ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #65
Indeed. Having the same thoughts myself. nt Skidmore May 2014 #115
Those were my first thoughts etherealtruth May 2014 #117
Time was always propaganda. JackRiddler May 2014 #89
That horseshit title has appreared millions of times since 1968 eridani May 2014 #3
bahahaha. Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #5
Someone doesn't know what "feminist" means, apparently. cyberswede May 2014 #6
This was my interpretation as well. n/t mattclearing May 2014 #95
ding ding ding randys1 May 2014 #129
Goddammit... Why do rags like Time publish someone who doesn't SHIT about a subject... Adrahil May 2014 #8
shes going to be Mary Jane Watson in Spiderman 3 big_dog May 2014 #11
So maybe they can have Kin fucking Kardashian.. Adrahil May 2014 #16
Kanyean Economics. Throd May 2014 #37
I see what you did there.... LOL NT Adrahil May 2014 #130
So fucking what? BainsBane May 2014 #80
She's still Dorian Gray May 2014 #121
Well, to be fair BainsBane May 2014 #189
I don't disagree with you on any of that Dorian Gray May 2014 #197
Fair point BainsBane May 2014 #198
No, she was going to be in Amazing Spider-Man 2, but her role was cut out of the movie Bjorn Against May 2014 #194
Just like with the Princeton kid's essay, this is one person's dumbass opinion. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #9
She is ignorant. Feminism means equality. Dawson Leery May 2014 #10
She's 22 and still has a lot to learn Auggie May 2014 #36
What an idiot. Luminous Animal May 2014 #12
Is it bad that I'm just going to rolly my eyes and not see any of her movies? nt ladyVet May 2014 #13
I don't think she's a bad person or nothing, but, TBH, she ultimately doesn't understand.......... AverageJoe90 May 2014 #14
Does TIME have a new feature, "Clueless People Speak Out?" Gormy Cuss May 2014 #15
That would be the history of TIME. JackRiddler May 2014 #90
Nope. That's not at all what feminism is about. JaneyVee May 2014 #17
When I was 23 years old, I was stupid too. Starry Messenger May 2014 #18
I was never THAT stupid Skittles May 2014 #38
What you said. Solly Mack May 2014 #49
Only 1/5th of Americans consider themselves a "feminist" davidn3600 May 2014 #19
That's because people like you lie about what feminism is. LeftyMom May 2014 #21
BOOM. exactly. bettyellen May 2014 #23
Right on. cyberswede May 2014 #30
I think that is a rude, abusive, cheapjack response. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #39
Well it's been half an hour and the post is still there, so apparently they didn't. LeftyMom May 2014 #54
I hope it at least got you to consider your posting style. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #61
Feel free to lecture somebody who is interested in your opinion. LeftyMom May 2014 #63
Thank you for your... AgingAmerican May 2014 #107
But it's the truth. Squinch May 2014 #66
Results of the alert on this post: Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #92
i'm glad you're against rude and abusive posts CreekDog May 2014 #110
Da Nile RobinA May 2014 #177
Or maybe because the people representing it The Straight Story May 2014 #137
Absolutely true. n/t TDale313 May 2014 #151
because people repeat asinine talking points about feminsts being sex negative and focus on a nutbag bettyellen May 2014 #22
Unfortunately, the radicals tend to define a group davidn3600 May 2014 #35
Because unnecessary shyness and hesitance around the "label" implies it's somehow a bad thing. nomorenomore08 May 2014 #85
Not necessarily davidn3600 May 2014 #97
That might be how they see it. But I still think explicitly distancing oneself from "that word" nomorenomore08 May 2014 #100
only if you are an idiot do one off radicals define groups that are not radical. bettyellen May 2014 #98
Hmmm... Just as radical nutbag christians define ALL of christianity and all Italians are mobsters? Luminous Animal May 2014 #163
Yes. Yes exactly. Squinch May 2014 #178
Someone needs to update the scoreboard.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2014 #158
"they think of Valerie Solanas or Andrea Dworkin" Starry Messenger May 2014 #29
CORRECT Skittles May 2014 #40
...and feminists. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #41
There are plenty of feminists who have never heard of either Solanas or Dworkin cyberswede May 2014 #42
Some of us are old enough to remember them. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #58
Zing! 1000words May 2014 #60
Huh? cyberswede May 2014 #70
Derp. Starry Messenger May 2014 #44
Gastrointestinal problems? Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #59
But not your average American. Gormy Cuss May 2014 #69
I never heard of them until I heard people complain about how horrible they were gollygee May 2014 #135
Ditto for the dreaded MRA types. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #187
Dark corners of the net... like Salon, Boston Magazine, the SPLC... redqueen May 2014 #190
Like I said, I never heard of those MRA types except here. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #193
You don't care about the danger they pose to women - I get it. redqueen May 2014 #203
You should join some of the ciswomen's-only spaces on Facebook LadyHawkAZ May 2014 #101
I don't think I will. Starry Messenger May 2014 #114
They are hate groups LadyHawkAZ May 2014 #116
"No because I love men..." Brickbat May 2014 #20
and men can be feminists. Shailene is young with a lot of dumb ideas. anneboleyn May 2014 #53
she sounds really stupid , JI7 May 2014 #24
...because I'm in a magazine that still has a feature about what female actors wear. McCamy Taylor May 2014 #25
...because I'm in an industry that tosses women aside before they turn 30. McCamy Taylor May 2014 #26
...because my manager/studio head told me I'm not a feminist. McCamy Taylor May 2014 #27
..because it won't help the box office of my latest film. McCamy Taylor May 2014 #28
....because feminists can't, you know, use words like "neat" and "neat" and "really neat." McCamy Taylor May 2014 #31
If she believes in equal pay for equal work, she's a feminist. SheilaT May 2014 #32
That's not being a feminist. woolldog May 2014 #142
It should be normal, and maybe the younger generation thinks it's normal, SheilaT May 2014 #147
I thought that was sisterhood was what WhiteTara May 2014 #33
In the end, she is trying to be a positive role model for other young women 1000words May 2014 #34
Well, if she wants to be a positive role model... cyberswede May 2014 #43
Do you think being a feminist means never saying anything mean about any woman ever? redqueen May 2014 #46
she is promoting 1000 words.... lol. of course he embraces her messages and feels the need to seabeyond May 2014 #55
If she is trying to be a positive role model for other young women, she is failing miserably. Squinch May 2014 #67
dismissing idiots is a good thing Kali May 2014 #84
And then they wonder why so many people do not identify with the word. A young woman sabrina 1 May 2014 #93
Madam ... 1000words May 2014 #94
"[I'm not a feminist because] I like men...." wickerwoman May 2014 #104
So the way to inform someone who is ignorant of a topic to tell them to 'shut up and be quiet'. sabrina 1 May 2014 #128
No, but the sentiment is the same. wickerwoman May 2014 #159
+1 Luminous Animal May 2014 #165
I really don't like the stupid +1 thingy Kali May 2014 #186
I also want to talk with her about her idiot ideas of the health benefits of eating clay and Luminous Animal May 2014 #175
Feminists tend to call out idiocy whether it is a man or a woman spewing it bettyellen May 2014 #102
Feminists RobinA May 2014 #199
Well, maybe I'm just a prejudiced old white guy, but whenever I hear a woman say struggle4progress May 2014 #45
She is young and ignorant. redqueen May 2014 #47
Yes. 1000words May 2014 #48
I really can't understand why people wouldn't want to stand up for equal treatment, struggle4progress May 2014 #51
So your response is to treat them unequally? 1000words May 2014 #56
This makes no sense. Squinch May 2014 #68
Treat who unequally? People who demonstrate ignorance? cyberswede May 2014 #71
Re-examine what was written: 1000words May 2014 #72
That's not treating someone unequally... cyberswede May 2014 #73
And it's unfortunate you do so. 1000words May 2014 #74
Yes, I grieve over that on long winter evenings. cyberswede May 2014 #75
Ah ... the smilie. 1000words May 2014 #77
Well...you know what a picture's worth cyberswede May 2014 #79
Bah ha ha ha ha. Clever you. Nt seabeyond May 2014 #81
Nice. nt msanthrope May 2014 #134
Oh, so when you said you had a bunch of feminists on ignore BainsBane May 2014 #83
Here. Sissyk May 2014 #86
This place has a real issue with bogus alerts. And it's obvious what direction they're coming from. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #148
Post removed Post removed May 2014 #157
As opposed to your credibility...? LanternWaste May 2014 #166
this is not to you - it is for the post you are replying to Kali May 2014 #191
Who sent that alert? cyberswede May 2014 #169
I don't know, and I think that's a problem for DU. I think alerts should have names attached. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #192
Well, the admins can see all alerters and jurors. cyberswede May 2014 #195
I had no particular poster in mind. More like a certain self-righteous faction. Comrade Grumpy May 2014 #200
Let's get this straight: you think that, in order to be open minded and progressive, one needs to Squinch May 2014 #123
Yes, apparently we should not comment when we hear RW sexist drivel here... bettyellen May 2014 #152
AND, don't forget this one: We must be open to what Republicans tell us. Squinch May 2014 #155
I love how they gasp in shock when people comment on RW bullshit, LOL.... bettyellen May 2014 #156
It's largely thanks to the efforts of 19th and 20th-century feminists that we've moved away *at all* nomorenomore08 May 2014 #87
Unfortunately the brand has been tarnished by radfems LittleBlue May 2014 #50
ya. cause fox, limbaugh and littleblue says so???? rollin eyes. really, just call us feminazis. seabeyond May 2014 #57
Because polls say so LittleBlue May 2014 #62
Post removed Post removed May 2014 #64
Certainly some people work hard to see the majority of the population remain subordinate BainsBane May 2014 #78
Someone will be taking a short time out. 1000words May 2014 #91
So what ever happened to . . . BainsBane May 2014 #96
I thought about alerting LittleBlue May 2014 #99
Oh, the alerts are flying ... 1000words May 2014 #103
Indeed. Bobbie Jo May 2014 #125
LOL! sheshe2 May 2014 #108
Well, how interesting... chervilant May 2014 #141
They're loud and hateful and nasty LadyHawkAZ May 2014 #88
Yes, I believe that LittleBlue May 2014 #105
A lot of the younger generation who say the same thing she did LadyHawkAZ May 2014 #109
You denounced all isms BainsBane May 2014 #111
What one speaks out against speaks volumes BainsBane May 2014 #106
Um...forgive me but I don't see any men here telling Shailene to keep her mouth shut davidn3600 May 2014 #112
The attack was against me personally, not the actress LadyHawkAZ May 2014 #113
I didn't tell her to keep her mouth shut BainsBane May 2014 #118
Idiots equate it with man hating LeftOfWest May 2014 #120
THIS redqueen May 2014 #132
delete redqueen May 2014 #132
Only by people intentionally creating anti-feminist propaganda gollygee May 2014 #136
Just WHO has made the word "feminist" so toxic?!? chervilant May 2014 #140
"the term "radfems" is a condescending, disrespectful slam" opiate69 May 2014 #146
It is when it's bandied about directed at DU feminists. cyberswede May 2014 #170
If it quacks like a duckie.... opiate69 May 2014 #171
And calling someone a duck isn't an insult... cyberswede May 2014 #173
I'll try to remember that... opiate69 May 2014 #176
The word "liberal" is meant as a prejoritive when used by the right wing Luminous Animal May 2014 #182
Maybe for you. Me? I wear the title proudly. Regardless of who tries to hang me with it. opiate69 May 2014 #184
I didn't say that I take it as an insult. I said it is meant as an insult. Luminous Animal May 2014 #185
Do any DUers proudly call themselves MRAs? cyberswede May 2014 #188
Calling names BainsBane May 2014 #202
Yawn... chervilant May 2014 #179
Awww... opiate69 May 2014 #180
Gosh... chervilant May 2014 #181
Stalking? Heavens no. opiate69 May 2014 #183
That is certainly how you use it BainsBane May 2014 #201
two choices in your Ops. hypersexualize women or diss femininists.... nt seabeyond May 2014 #52
Pfffft. Shailene is full of shit on this one. alp227 May 2014 #76
You're last line is true. Dawson Leery May 2014 #164
Pffft what does she know? Ash_F May 2014 #82
She is an ignorant childish idiot. LeftOfWest May 2014 #119
Another topic with feminism at its core, another topic filled with a lot of hate. Blue_Adept May 2014 #122
And my two daughters are proud feminists PassingFair May 2014 #150
Gosh. Big dog, the poster who gave us boobs in space, is trying to show us the evils of feminism. Squinch May 2014 #124
LOL gollygee May 2014 #138
Boom! Tuesday Afternoon May 2014 #143
Interesting! Have to wonder how hating on democratic priciples and liberal ideas bettyellen May 2014 #167
But she has the wrong idea of Feminism get the red out May 2014 #126
Who? CBGLuthier May 2014 #127
Does it matter how she feels about feminists? It's a label. chrisa May 2014 #131
When you mercuryblues May 2014 #139
Who the hell is Shailene Woodley? GoCubsGo May 2014 #144
Same here.. I have NO idea who she is, or why I should care what she thinks SoCalDem May 2014 #145
How? Aside from challenging people on an individual basis, how can we do that? nt raccoon May 2014 #149
Me either. I am tempted to respond with, "There is a lady named Gloria Squinch May 2014 #172
What an idiot. Endgames May 2014 #153
Next Up 4Q2u2 May 2014 #154
She's a poor woman's Jennifer Lawrence ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2014 #160
She's entitled to her opinion, naive and ill-informed as it is. hamsterjill May 2014 #161
This is what a feminist looks like loyalsister May 2014 #162
Isn't Shailene Woodley...like, twelve? jmowreader May 2014 #168
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #174
who are you Shailene and should I care Iris May 2014 #196
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