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Tue Dec 20, 2011, 04:00 PM

Romulox (22,535 posts)

82. Right. You just really, really understand where the Drug Warriors are coming from. nt

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President Obama's puzzling silence on marijuana policy [View all]	RainDog	Dec 2011	OP
He totally spaced out and missed it.	Scuba	Dec 2011	#1
or has caved to pharma and the prison industry. I don't think he is that spaced out.	bbgrunt	Dec 2011	#42
On this one, I just think he's choosing his battles.	tblue	Dec 2011	#94
Munchies will do that.	boppers	Dec 2011	#121
There's a laundry list of issues that are important to young people	SixthSense	Dec 2011	#2
Time for those same young people to start demanding their parents vote (D).	DCKit	Dec 2011	#3
They did that	SixthSense	Dec 2011	#5
I said "progressive Democrats".	DCKit	Dec 2011	#6
people who work in drug policy reform	RainDog	Dec 2011	#8
Then that needs to be done in primaries	SixthSense	Dec 2011	#11
young voters are HUGELY ticked off that their issue has been laughed off	RainDog	Dec 2011	#9
This is one of the most ridiculous statements I've seen posted here.	MjolnirTime	Dec 2011	#50
I didn't say it was only an issue for young people	RainDog	Dec 2011	#61
Obama does not deserve my vote. Maybe Ron Paul does,	Rageneau	Dec 2011	#100
Ron Paul is so principled he supports discrimination. Sorry you fell for his bullshit.	MjolnirTime	Dec 2011	#104
I find Ron Paul disgusting but that statement is absolutely true	Bjorn Against	Dec 2011	#112
The only reason anyone would support Ron Paul is because they haven't done any research.	MjolnirTime	Dec 2011	#136
"I was going to decriminalize marijuana, but then I got high"	aikoaiko	Dec 2011	#4
Lol!	RiffRandell	Dec 2011	#47
1 in 3 American Youth Are Arrested By Age 23	RainDog	Dec 2011	#7
I agree, except I don't find it "puzzling"	Enrique	Dec 2011	#10
Not necessarily	RainDog	Dec 2011	#12
Obama has a crappy Med Marijuana policy for the same reason that he sold us out	truedelphi	Dec 2011	#87
Control the $$$$-Screw the Patient Rights	fredamae	Dec 2011	#13
You got it	SixthSense	Dec 2011	#15
Law Enforcement is the Primary Opposition	fredamae	Dec 2011	#23
when marinol was classed as schedule II	RainDog	Dec 2011	#19
My wife was prescribed Marinol during third round of chemo, it	Dragonfli	Dec 2011	#124
that's what made me aware of this issue - medical cannabis works	RainDog	Dec 2011	#127
OT "Raindogs" is one of my top 10 favorite albums of all time.	banned from Kos	Dec 2011	#14
This message was self-deleted by its author	Romulox	Dec 2011	#17
Obama hasn't been "silent"--he has actively ramped up a crackdown on Medical Marijuana.	Romulox	Dec 2011	#16
you misunderstood that post	RainDog	Dec 2011	#18
No. I didn't. Obama is in charge of the DEA, DOJ; He's a committed Drug Warrior.	Romulox	Dec 2011	#20
lol	RainDog	Dec 2011	#21
That's cool. ONE DAY you'll solve the mystery of who appointed Eric Holder, Michele Leonhart!`	Romulox	Dec 2011	#25
And he will remain silent until AFTER the election. nt	Countdown_3_2_1	Dec 2011	#22
Obama hasn't been "silent"; He speaks through his POLICIES:	Romulox	Dec 2011	#24
Why is remaining silent on an issue where speaking out would be political suicide mysterious?	Donald Ian Rankin	Dec 2011	#26
Legalizing Marijuana is Not a Far-Leftist Position	RainDog	Dec 2011	#29
Well done! n/t	i_sometimes	Dec 2011	#32
you might want to check out the Drug Policy Forum	RainDog	Dec 2011	#37
I can attest to	i_sometimes	Dec 2011	#60
I fear the Party of NO	fredamae	Dec 2011	#30
It would not surprise me - legalising cannabis would make a Republican look moderate.	Donald Ian Rankin	Dec 2011	#46
yet almost half of the population of the U.S. lives in places with legal medical marijuana	RainDog	Dec 2011	#68
It's not a far left position, it's a position that would make a politician be viewed as far left.	Donald Ian Rankin	Dec 2011	#89
thanks for the reply. You're right - it's not a far left position	RainDog	Dec 2011	#118
I think politicians are probably accurately gauging electoral/media response.	Donald Ian Rankin	Dec 2011	#132
The issue may have changed just a bit - Gary Johnson is going to run for prez as a libertarian	RainDog	Dec 2011	#133
You're essentially asking, "Why do the right thing, if someone might criticize me?" They're called	Romulox	Dec 2011	#34
No, I'm not, you're simply wrong about that.	Donald Ian Rankin	Dec 2011	#45
Those are the thinnest slices of hair I've ever seen! Bottom line, you defend the status quo. nt	Romulox	Dec 2011	#58
Bottom line: no I don't, and your comments are both false and rude.	Donald Ian Rankin	Dec 2011	#90
I get what you're saying.	randome	Dec 2011	#59
Only if the person you're talking to wants to "win" rather than to communicate. N.T.	Donald Ian Rankin	Dec 2011	#91
"Political suicide"?	SixthSense	Dec 2011	#35
Sorry...	nebenaube	Dec 2011	#107
Anecdotally speaking, I have not seen 'the youth' united in demanding marijuana legalization.	randome	Dec 2011	#27
I know. You have not seen many things concerning this issue	RainDog	Dec 2011	#31
Thanks for setting me straight on how I perceive reality.	randome	Dec 2011	#33
I can link to discussions with you in which you simply deny reality	RainDog	Dec 2011	#36
Link away.	randome	Dec 2011	#39
go to the Drug Policy Forum	RainDog	Dec 2011	#40
Every poll you list has to do with medicinal use of marijuana.	randome	Dec 2011	#49
no. the first two have to do with entirely legalizing	RainDog	Dec 2011	#51
You're right about those first 2 links.	randome	Dec 2011	#52
so you're not going to bother reading any of the reports or studies?	RainDog	Dec 2011	#56
Creationism? Nope. You still have me pegged wrong.	randome	Dec 2011	#57
here are answers to your questions	RainDog	Dec 2011	#63
A thoughtful response and I appreciate that.	randome	Dec 2011	#66
With the number of LEGAL narcotics spewed out	Tsiyu	Dec 2011	#72
I think I know why that is.	randome	Dec 2011	#74
lol	RainDog	Dec 2011	#73
You don't have to smoke cannabis, you can use a vaporizer or ingest it combined with food.	Uncle Joe	Dec 2011	#76
I already said I think incarceration is stupid.	randome	Dec 2011	#77
The problem is that would still be prohibtion leaving all the dynamics in place	Uncle Joe	Dec 2011	#78
There will always be prohibition of something.	randome	Dec 2011	#79
That should be its' own thread, but as this one is referring to cannabis	Uncle Joe	Dec 2011	#81
You support the Drug War. Why try to put your views in the mouth of "the Youth"? nt	Romulox	Dec 2011	#41
I don't support the drug 'war'.	randome	Dec 2011	#43
Right. You just really, really understand where the Drug Warriors are coming from. nt	Romulox	Dec 2011	#82
Apparently I understand the nature of a paradox.	randome	Dec 2011	#83
No. You don't. Because that's not a "paradox", it's just inconsistency on your part. Not the same.	Romulox	Dec 2011	#84
Well, I do benefit...	i_sometimes	Dec 2011	#28
Another clue in this mystery: "Joe Biden, Drug Warrior"	Romulox	Dec 2011	#38
Obama never ran on legalizing Reefer. And he wouldn't be reelected if he did.	MjolnirTime	Dec 2011	#44
Just promise you won't use your hammer for evil...	randome	Dec 2011	#48
since when does an issue that has favorable polls across all demographics-	RainDog	Dec 2011	#53
It's America, RainDog.	randome	Dec 2011	#54
Post #29 says otherwise ("across all demographics").	boppers	Dec 2011	#123
pardon me. slight exaggeration. majorities across ALL political id's except for Republicans	RainDog	Dec 2011	#126
He did make specific and detailed statements regarding policy that he needs to uphold	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2011	#55
With a world economy in shambles,	frazzled	Dec 2011	#62
FDR ended prohibition and it spurred the economy	RainDog	Dec 2011	#64
Money should not be part of this discussion.	randome	Dec 2011	#67
FDR did not end prohibition by himself	treestar	Dec 2011	#96
lol well if you really really really really believe it, it must be true	grantcart	Dec 2011	#98
FDR and the End of Prohibition	RainDog	Dec 2011	#115
The issue is not whether he supported it after it was approved by the party but why he didn't lead	grantcart	Dec 2011	#139
I am not bashing Obama on this issue	RainDog	Dec 2011	#142
btw, grantcart, I am really surprised to see you lying outright here	RainDog	Dec 2011	#117
+1 This is absurd.	treestar	Dec 2011	#95
Yeah so the State can	i_sometimes	Dec 2011	#108
There was federal law on it too	treestar	Dec 2011	#119
What are you saying?	i_sometimes	Dec 2011	#134
The clinics were being investigated for violating federal regulations regarding medical marijuana	treestar	Dec 2011	#135
There are no Federal	i_sometimes	Dec 2011	#141
this is not true	RainDog	Dec 2011	#145
here's a link about that situation	RainDog	Dec 2011	#146
Ah, yes. The economy is in trouble, so we shouldn't get distracted	Doctor_J	Dec 2011	#137
The only "science" involved is economics.	comipinko	Dec 2011	#65
Kicked and recommended.	Uncle Joe	Dec 2011	#69
I don't see a big downside for Obama in supporting marijuana legalization	aint_no_life_nowhere	Dec 2011	#70
Try "making it far less likely he'd be reelected".	Donald Ian Rankin	Dec 2011	#148
I think it is probably an enviable position	loyalsister	Dec 2011	#71
people are losing their jobs because of the LEGAL medical marijuana trade in states here	RainDog	Dec 2011	#75
Does anyone believe that it would be easier than HCR or extending unemployment?	loyalsister	Dec 2011	#101
Getting out of the drug war game would greatly decrease the reach of the police state	TheKentuckian	Dec 2011	#88
Enviable?	SixthSense	Dec 2011	#99
So they can't walk and chew gum at the same time? What a dumb post	Doctor_J	Dec 2011	#105
The problem is they won't	loyalsister	Dec 2011	#125
I don't think Obama has to fight to legalize mj	RainDog	Dec 2011	#128
Yeah, its hard doing two things at once.	i_sometimes	Dec 2011	#109
K&R n/t	Shining Jack	Dec 2011	#80
More so-called "silence" from Obama's DOJ: "Feds Shut Down Marin Pot Club"	Romulox	Dec 2011	#85
K&R (n/t)	a2liberal	Dec 2011	#86
I don't think there is any puzzling silence.. it's pretty clear that Obama supports the WOD.	lib2DaBone	Dec 2011	#92
I can't believe the number of people who cite politics as justification for Obama's silence....	mike_c	Dec 2011	#93
The private prison industry would never permit decriminalization.	NorthCarolina	Dec 2011	#97
Yes.. that sums it up. Prisons equal "PROFIT".	lib2DaBone	Dec 2011	#102
Not that puzzling - he ran as a liberal, and is governing as a far-right conservative	Doctor_J	Dec 2011	#103
Ya think there just might be a few hundred more pressing issues for him to deal with these days?	RBInMaine	Dec 2011	#106
Linky? eom	i_sometimes	Dec 2011	#110
No, actually, I don't.	Donald Ian Rankin	Dec 2011	#111
But the Pen Stoke needs solid main stream justification so people can get over their fear	freedomnow	Dec 2011	#113
here's a link to the Miron study	RainDog	Dec 2011	#129
I was looking for your defense! Not disappointed!	Logical	Dec 2011	#122
It is odd. It'd be low-hanging fruit to save taxpayer dollars, stimulate the economy, etc.	DirkGently	Dec 2011	#114
A question for all of you who feel Obama is silent on this for political purposes or electability	FlaGatorJD	Dec 2011	#116
Michele Leonhart's track record of undermioning state law..	red dog 1	Dec 2011	#120
It's a moral issue, and shameful that Obama has not had the courage of his convictions.	Kurovski	Dec 2011	#130
Try Marinol ... legal prescribed pill made of THC in pot.	freedomnow	Dec 2011	#143
it is not as effective	RainDog	Dec 2011	#147
Try Marinol ... legal prescribed pill made of THC in pot.	freedomnow	Dec 2011	#144
Not on my formulary.	Kurovski	Dec 2011	#149
As an active	JackInGreen	Dec 2011	#131
The president has abandoned many of his 2008 voters	Doctor_J	Dec 2011	#138
Sadly he listens more to "Dance with the ones who bought you"	Marrah_G	Dec 2011	#140

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82. Right. You just *really, really* understand where the Drug Warriors are coming from. nt

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82. Right. You just really, really understand where the Drug Warriors are coming from. nt