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randome

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78. I really think mortality plays into the notion of "Let someone else deal with it."
Mon Apr 21, 2014, 11:16 AM
Apr 2014

We don't have the expectation that we'll need to deal with our mistakes. But given vastly improved lifespans, I think that would change. At what chronological age that would change, of course I don't know. But eventually I think we'd reach the point where taking care of planetary resources has a direct connection to self-interest.

Surface memories means leaving your base personality intact. You'd be the same person but without the knowledge of where you lived, who you loved, that sort of thing. Similar to 'Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind'. That's pure speculation on my part but it seems like an easy way to cope with the sci-fi idea that immortals are basically strung out and eternally looking for distraction.

As for eternal love? Well, society would be quickly and drastically transformed with true longevity. I would think the concept of being with the same person for thousands of years would no longer be valid.
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It would force an exodus to the universe. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #1
but what if the biotech way outpaces the live away from earth tech? nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #2
Then only the rich will have the biotech. MohRokTah Apr 2014 #4
what if it becomes cheap and say every one from the Koch brothers to a school teacher can arely staircase Apr 2014 #7
The likes of the Koch brothers would never ever let that happen. eom MohRokTah Apr 2014 #8
I could see that. nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #9
the rich have kept 49 of 50 states from having a simple fucking sticky label attached to their food piratefish08 Apr 2014 #48
+1 nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #49
Then we fight it out... Hip_Flask Apr 2014 #87
If the biotech permits living without water or energy, maybe IDemo Apr 2014 #3
Koch bros would raise retirement age to 175. JaneyVee Apr 2014 #5
DUzy! Egnever Apr 2014 #12
And what about all the 2naSalit Apr 2014 #6
good point arely staircase Apr 2014 #14
Forever is a myth. pintobean Apr 2014 #10
It will be "Logan's Run" Phlem Apr 2014 #11
This isn't the first time this has come up and it won't be the last. Phlem Apr 2014 #16
it would be a reverse logan's run arely staircase Apr 2014 #17
Well that I don't know. Phlem Apr 2014 #21
well we would live forever by not aging (regenerating parts both internal and external as they break arely staircase Apr 2014 #22
True. Phlem Apr 2014 #27
That would end human evolution, Agnosticsherbet Apr 2014 #13
yeah, like outlawing the having of children nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #15
Potential immortality is not the same thing as actual immortality. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2014 #20
all very good points nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #33
A couple of issues, first off, I don't think it will be easy, for one, we don't have a sustainable.. Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #18
"We will have to expand beyond Earth at some point, unless we are willing to "cull" our population." avebury Apr 2014 #56
It is really going to depend on how much damage climate change will do to our... Humanist_Activist Apr 2014 #82
We will upload our conciousness the cloud Ex Lurker Apr 2014 #19
mine is on one of these arely staircase Apr 2014 #24
That's nice, you'll create a replica davekriss Apr 2014 #68
Ever seen Zardoz? Scootaloo Apr 2014 #23
yes arely staircase Apr 2014 #26
Nice to see intelligent conversations about transhumanism in this forum-nt. Anansi1171 Apr 2014 #25
Awesome thread arely, Kick and Rec! Phlem Apr 2014 #28
Somebody's reading too much Aubrey de Grey, or maybe Ray Kurzweil. longship Apr 2014 #29
Well. That ends the reason to have sex for giving birth. Lint Head Apr 2014 #30
On so many levels, no. flvegan Apr 2014 #31
Yeah but then people will start to worry about being eternal and what not. Rex Apr 2014 #32
After looking up "forever" in the dictionary. I'd say yes. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #34
so what if we have that ability before the ability to manage resourses differently arely staircase Apr 2014 #38
Implicit in "developing the ability to live forever" is managing resources. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #74
If I'm going to live "forever", I may as well be a Time Lord. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #35
i totally do not get the reference arely staircase Apr 2014 #40
Doctor Who. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #41
ah, thanks arely staircase Apr 2014 #43
Well not everyone could live forever. That would quickly applegrove Apr 2014 #36
I would think that we might have to stop procreating for a little while. n/t pepperbear Apr 2014 #37
Saw a video of a seminar with Michio Kaku and others discussing transhumanism. freshwest Apr 2014 #39
I've been giving this some more thought Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #42
no. memory space wouldn't handle it. nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #44
Easy enough to handle. randome Apr 2014 #52
My assumption would be that our mind would abridge our memories. chrisa Apr 2014 #70
no JI7 Apr 2014 #45
Zardoz agent46 Apr 2014 #46
Thanks for your recommendation (haven't seen that movie). And thanks also for your thoughtful post. KittyWampus Apr 2014 #72
From Isaac Asimov spinbaby Apr 2014 #47
Ummm.... pipi_k Apr 2014 #73
LOL spinbaby Apr 2014 #85
Frankly - I don't think it is anything to be concerned about. geckosfeet Apr 2014 #50
Not unless it comes with sterility. nt LWolf Apr 2014 #51
Immortality would be like the alien invasion we've always imagined would unite us. randome Apr 2014 #53
Never mind the fact that this movie starred Justin Timberlake... MrScorpio Apr 2014 #54
Would it be good for petty, greedy, malicious, backbiting, lying, violent beings to live forever? Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #55
People will still be able to die from accidents Shankapotomus Apr 2014 #57
we would become a nation of old people with no one to yell at regarding our lawns. nt Javaman Apr 2014 #58
Immortality aside, even a greatly SheilaT Apr 2014 #59
Science fiction is...fiction. randome Apr 2014 #69
Fiction is often a good way to explore ideas. SheilaT Apr 2014 #77
I really think mortality plays into the notion of "Let someone else deal with it." randome Apr 2014 #78
But wouldn't you think that people would care enough SheilaT Apr 2014 #84
Couple of possibilities Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #60
That is, indeed, a 'form' of immortality. randome Apr 2014 #62
Well, that's an interesting philosophical question Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #64
I would not consider that to be a lesser being. randome Apr 2014 #67
It would suck Inkfreak Apr 2014 #61
No ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #63
The young are *already* treated the worst in our society--by far. nt Romulox Apr 2014 #65
disagree arely staircase Apr 2014 #66
That's mother nature you have a complaint with. I'm speaking of government policies. nt Romulox Apr 2014 #75
I am also speaking of society and how it treats each group arely staircase Apr 2014 #79
The most powerful group decides how we are all treated. That isn't the young. nt Romulox Apr 2014 #80
no. but still say the young have it the easiest in virtually arely staircase Apr 2014 #81
The young are *by far* the most likely to live in poverty here in the US. You are simply wrong. nt Romulox Apr 2014 #86
We already do live forever… we just change bodies every 65 years or so. Like a hermit crab KittyWampus Apr 2014 #71
Accidents, suicide, homicide, wars, etc., would solve the problem FarCenter Apr 2014 #76
Long lifespans are possible, but true immortality isn't and will never be. Xithras Apr 2014 #83
depends which ones end up living forever CreekDog Apr 2014 #88
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