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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
68. Here's the thing,
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 09:33 AM
Apr 2014

"Not it's not, but whatever. You aren't going to change your mind, which isn't surprising coming from you."

...after the claim that Bush was "tougher" is hyped, you're implying that rejecting the claim that "both are still weak" is about being partisan. I don't accept that. The reality is that Bush was complicit.

Not only did Bush, who was responsible for the worst financial crisis in more than 70 years, stand in the way of prosecutions, he did everything to facilitate the abuses (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024832745), gutting regulations and opposing efforts by Congress to address the issues (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024828575#post4)

Bush had an opportunity to stem the mortgage crisis triggered by his actions, and he stood in the way. He could have addressed this in 2004 when the problem was evident.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024832738

"White House Must Be Investigated for Role in Enron’s Fraud"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024832745

Any equating Obama to Bush or hyping Bush over Obama on this issue or the economy is idiotic. There is no friggin comparison.

There is no question that Dodd-Frank was a strong bill—the strongest in three generations. I didn’t have a chance to vote for it because I wasn’t yet in the Senate, but if I could have, I would have voted for it twice.

http://www.warren.senate.gov/files/documents/AFR%20Roosevelt%20Institute%20Speech%202013-11-12.pdf

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024812296

Dodd-Frank also included the Volcker Rule, which is addressed here:

Brown, Warren Urge Fed To Address Risks Associated With Bank Ownership Of Physical Commodities
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024831309

Obviously, as you said, Obama could do more, and clearly the process is ongoing.

i just read all your links Enrique Apr 2014 #1
Wait, ProSense Apr 2014 #2
You're not convinced by the mountains of conclusive evidence that Prosense provided but Taibbi's stevenleser Apr 2014 #7
That person read the better part of 30 articles in admittedly less than three minutes Number23 Apr 2014 #48
LMAO, good catch. Shows who are the actual sycophants around here. Taibbi's fans won't even read stevenleser Apr 2014 #70
I'm convinced you have no intention of reading anything and are here to distract from the OP. I'm Cha Apr 2014 #52
Hahaha! You're a reader! nt babylonsister Apr 2014 #53
Pathetic. nt Cali_Democrat Apr 2014 #56
Why can't Obama be more like Bush? ProSense Apr 2014 #3
Here is Kerry addressing some of the issues in 2004 and again in 2007 ProSense Apr 2014 #4
This - right here JustAnotherGen Apr 2014 #5
but the little libertarian taibbi said so.. so the followers praise him to high hell.. Bad Obama.. Cha Apr 2014 #55
As I noted in the other thread, Taibbi's articles look good on superficial inspection. When you stevenleser Apr 2014 #6
I'm glad Taibbi has taken up the cause of JaneyVee Apr 2014 #8
Hyperbole gets ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #30
K&R Whisp Apr 2014 #9
k&r... great post. spanone Apr 2014 #10
Thanks. n/t ProSense Apr 2014 #13
On logic alone, Taibbi doesn't make much sense Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2014 #11
Bush exploited and expanded the changes in the laws that led to the crisis. n/t ProSense Apr 2014 #14
I'm sure that he did Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2014 #22
K&R I can't believe people here seriously think Bush was tougher than Obama on corporate malfeasance DanTex Apr 2014 #12
Apparently, ProSense Apr 2014 #15
And, yet I contend that those who believe matt taibbi need to seriously consider Cha Apr 2014 #60
You get tough on corporate America through laws that affect corporations frazzled Apr 2014 #16
laws have to be enforced as well. the Sherman Anti-Trust Law is still on the books yurbud Apr 2014 #44
I can't believe you even have to say this on a democratic board mcar Apr 2014 #17
Ditto. nt Jamaal510 Apr 2014 #38
Excellent OP! Spazito Apr 2014 #18
Good job ProSense, but.. Dawgs Apr 2014 #19
Thanks, ProSense Apr 2014 #21
Dodd-Frank is strong but still not nearly enough. Dawgs Apr 2014 #26
So ProSense Apr 2014 #34
What? I never said Obama was as bad as Bush. Dawgs Apr 2014 #43
Still, that's like comparing intentionally crashing the economy to helping its recovery. n/t ProSense Apr 2014 #46
Not it's not, but whatever. Dawgs Apr 2014 #67
Here's the thing, ProSense Apr 2014 #68
Would be a good point if I actually compared one to the other. Which I haven't. Dawgs Apr 2014 #69
But, but, but, OBAMA BAD!!!! MohRokTah Apr 2014 #20
link diahrrea RandoLoodie Apr 2014 #23
Link ignorance, trash thread. Read one, please? nt babylonsister Apr 2014 #54
Fair is Fair. Provide links to Taibbi's supporting evidence... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2014 #24
Having said that^^^ WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2014 #25
I have a link for you: corkhead Apr 2014 #27
So ProSense Apr 2014 #35
Let me help...Apples to Apples: Who went to jail? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2014 #28
So does that mean we have to direct our 2 minute hate towards Gold...Taibbi today? Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #29
No ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #31
There are some here who seem to elevate Obama to god status. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #32
none of his supporters have ever said those word ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #33
Debunking the BS that Bush was "tougher" is to "elevate Obama to god status"? ProSense Apr 2014 #37
See the first graph in this OP. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #40
Do you ProSense Apr 2014 #41
Still, what does that have to do with this claim: "elevate Obama to god status"? ProSense Apr 2014 #42
Exactly. This all seems more like Taibbi's fans have elevated HIM to god status. stevenleser Apr 2014 #71
it sounds more like frustrated hyperbole on Taibbi's part for Obama not prosecuting the big dogs yurbud Apr 2014 #36
KnR Hekate Apr 2014 #39
DU rec. Taibbi's gotta earn that sweet, sweet Omidyar money...nt SidDithers Apr 2014 #45
The Bushes and Lehman Brothers ProSense Apr 2014 #47
I can't see how any progressive Democrat can say that Bush was tougher on corporations than Obama Chathamization Apr 2014 #49
Good post. ProSense Apr 2014 #50
This should be an OP. nt stevenleser Apr 2014 #72
Thanks for all of your Research, PS.. I already knew taibbi was full of shite.. but, Cha Apr 2014 #51
You're welcome. Here's another ProSense Apr 2014 #57
Mahalo! Cha Apr 2014 #62
The only thing I miss about Bush is the comedy Prophet 451 Apr 2014 #58
Impressive K&R SunsetDreams Apr 2014 #59
Thanks. ProSense Apr 2014 #61
You're welcome :) nt SunsetDreams Apr 2014 #64
Did you hear that President Obama's for policy is the same as Bush? davidpdx Apr 2014 #63
Saw that SunsetDreams Apr 2014 #65
Stiglitz sums it up nicely. nilesobek Apr 2014 #66
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