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boston bean

(36,220 posts)
Wed Apr 16, 2014, 09:24 AM Apr 2014

Why the Men's Rights Movement Is Garbage [View all]

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MRAs believe that feminists are to blame for basically everything that's wrong with their lives. The Men's Rights Movement is a reactionary movement created specifically to counter feminism, and most (if not all) of their time and resources go towards silencing and marginalizing women.

They do things like starting the Don't Be That Girl campaign, a campaign that accuses women of making false rape reports. They attend feminist events in order to bully and intimidate women, they flood online feminist spaces with threatening messages, and they regularly use smear campaigns and scare tactics to make the women who don't back down afraid for their physical safety. They do literally nothing to actually resolve the problems that they claim to care about, and instead do everything they can to discredit the feminist movement.

There are certainly issues that disproportionately affect men -- the suicide rate among men is higher, as is the rate of homelessness. Men are more likely to be injured or killed on the job or because of violence. Men who are the victims of domestic abuse or sexual assault are less likely to report these things. These are the issues that MRAs are purportedly working on, and by "working on" I mean "blaming feminism for."

The problem is that none of these things are caused by feminism, or equal rights for women, or anything like that. You know what's actually to blame for a lot of these issues? Marginalizing forces like class and race, for one thing. I mean, it's not rich white men who are grappling with homelessness or dangerous workplaces or gun violence. You know what else is to blame? Our patriarchal culture and its strictly enforced gender roles which, hey, happens to be exactly the same power structure that feminism is trying to take down.


http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/anne-theriault-/mens-rights-movement_b_5049999.html


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Besides, they already have all the rights LiberalEsto Apr 2014 #1
Exactly! n/t PasadenaTrudy Apr 2014 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Apr 2014 #2
Right--none of those things are caused by feminism. nt raccoon Apr 2014 #3
But as you know, the MRA movement does blame feminism. boston bean Apr 2014 #4
+2 nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #254
MRA? Isn't that a bacterium? pinboy3niner Apr 2014 #6
MRS_A ? you sexist ! steve2470 Apr 2014 #178
Hey, at least I was sort of half right pinboy3niner Apr 2014 #180
DUzy! =) AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #228
thank you ! *takes a bow* nt steve2470 Apr 2014 #229
How about the fact that JaneyVee Apr 2014 #7
Seems as though they would like to return to those days. boston bean Apr 2014 #9
As far as I'm concerned, American democracy is JaneyVee Apr 2014 #17
that is a good way to look at it. and my oldest son and i, in discussion seabeyond Apr 2014 #26
Shouldn't that be 49 years old? n/t A Simple Game Apr 2014 #42
I say it's even younger than that MrScorpio Apr 2014 #53
in some states you could legally rape.... legally rape, your wife up to what, 1993? nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #10
Awful. JaneyVee Apr 2014 #19
some much is jsut accepted with how we live, the way things were ect... but now. just looking seabeyond Apr 2014 #20
There are still people arguing that spousal rape shouldn't be a crime XemaSab Apr 2014 #22
yes. didnt i hear a congressman or one of those men say that shuold not be illegal, recently? seabeyond Apr 2014 #23
The MRA movement are also critical of the option of No Fault Divorce. boston bean Apr 2014 #25
too many women are walking. not taking their crap. hence, need for a foreign bride the perceive seabeyond Apr 2014 #28
i think what we have to acknowledge about MRA. it is not a small group of men. seabeyond Apr 2014 #8
You said it, Sea! CFLDem Apr 2014 #11
stay away from some of the comments there. boston bean Apr 2014 #12
reality BB, i have read them enough over the years to understand who they are. i have no desire seabeyond Apr 2014 #14
It's most of the GOP AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #132
I suppose I have my own societal prejudices. randome Apr 2014 #13
i do nto think there is anything more strong in a man than watching him speak out for his right seabeyond Apr 2014 #15
Oh, there are legitimate issues, I agree. randome Apr 2014 #16
totally agree.... seabeyond Apr 2014 #18
Where is the power and authority re: paternal rights ? karadax Apr 2014 #49
Care to extrapolate on those barriers? n/t HangOnKids Apr 2014 #59
Off the top of my head. Last month in NJ karadax Apr 2014 #66
Certain Situations HangOnKids Apr 2014 #69
ya. screw the womans right having the baby, it is ALL about da man. you kinda reinforce the OP. seabeyond Apr 2014 #71
Fuckin A HangOnKids Apr 2014 #128
What right, sir, do you have to be present at another person's medical procedures? msanthrope Apr 2014 #80
When that person is your child, it's a reasonable request. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #168
I think it is a reasonable request to be notified that his child is being born. newcriminal Apr 2014 #201
An estranged boyfriend (or even husband) should not have an absolute right to be present nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #256
Her feelings should not trump the father's when we are discussing the child. newcriminal Apr 2014 #289
I agree. I said he should be able to visit after the birth even if the mother doesn't want him nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #296
If it was only his child, and legally his child, I could understand msanthrope Apr 2014 #206
Seriously, you must see the epic lameness of this argument. Squinch Apr 2014 #268
This example perfectly illustrates the MRA movement's petulant desire to regain male control over wo seabeyond Apr 2014 #271
It boils down to, "Paternity trumps all! The father's relationship to the child Squinch Apr 2014 #274
Off the top of my head: knightmaar Apr 2014 #294
But that's not feminism's fault. The idea that women are naturally better mothers comes from nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #255
This! knightmaar Apr 2014 #295
Very interesting thread ... oldhippie Apr 2014 #21
Here is how Francis takes care of any haters- snooper2 Apr 2014 #24
?????? oldhippie Apr 2014 #75
That's the problem. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #27
I am wondering if The Men's Movement will have waves like The Feminist Movement. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #34
interesting question.... BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #44
thanks and thanks for the thoughtful reply and I imagine you would be correct in Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #45
I think you're wrong. Nine Apr 2014 #173
When I said 'at worst' I was being extremely generous to the counter-position. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #174
ok, sorry if I misunderstood. (nt) Nine Apr 2014 #179
I can't find it, but the issue is probably mine. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #184
I can give you a very explicit example of what i think you're talking about. thucythucy Apr 2014 #209
When a few male rape victims started showing up at our local center, the women running it eridani Apr 2014 #247
This. Just This. Times a Million. AverageJoe90 Apr 2014 #231
I want to second what sea said - this isn't some small group of annoying nutbags on the net. redqueen Apr 2014 #29
Yes, liberals, women, feminists, ignore them at your own peril. boston bean Apr 2014 #30
MRA types are bitter, vindictive souls Tsiyu Apr 2014 #31
That's a bit of an oversimplification knightmaar Apr 2014 #37
there are a lotta lotta lotta girls beaten, raped, abused by their fathers, uncles, brothers, ect... seabeyond Apr 2014 #39
I don't know knightmaar Apr 2014 #63
THIS is the problem joeglow3 Apr 2014 #64
no. that is how you are interpreting it for your own reasons. that is not the point. it is not seabeyond Apr 2014 #72
How did I make it into that? joeglow3 Apr 2014 #76
by saying it is a competition when no on else is. fug.... outta here. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #77
Go back and re-read joeglow3 Apr 2014 #82
this is my comment to you. no one is talking about competition but you. only you see the only seabeyond Apr 2014 #84
Of course the court is biased ohheckyeah Apr 2014 #118
You forgot the sarcasm tag joeglow3 Apr 2014 #208
No, I didn't ohheckyeah Apr 2014 #223
I guess I am just shocked joeglow3 Apr 2014 #224
Some of the attitude is rooted ohheckyeah Apr 2014 #225
That makes sense joeglow3 Apr 2014 #227
I know when my brother got divorced ohheckyeah Apr 2014 #241
It isn't, but it might be tied to one's ability to feed one for the first six months Warpy Apr 2014 #260
Or that women should stay married to them, that divorce is to easy. boston bean Apr 2014 #266
I don't deny the impetus to strike back when one has been harmed Tsiyu Apr 2014 #41
I think it stems more from the ability to speak out knightmaar Apr 2014 #140
Shame is part of abuse Tsiyu Apr 2014 #203
I don't think it is logical to assume that is a significant percentage of their membership. Squinch Apr 2014 #269
and hands down, by far, the percentage of assaults on boys are at the hands of men. not women. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #273
Yes. And there is no movement against men by men who were traumatized by other men. Squinch Apr 2014 #275
"Those guys are about regaining their ownership of women and children." yup. and that ship sailed. seabeyond Apr 2014 #277
Poor dears. There's nowhere for them to turn! When I learned that they were mostly 17-20 years old, Squinch Apr 2014 #280
ya. but reddit users and they are younger. i know the percentage is up there for older men. seabeyond Apr 2014 #281
I think that's very, very true knightmaar Apr 2014 #293
It's hard being a human. dawg Apr 2014 #32
"You never hear anything about gay MRA guys" - see 1st Para. Post 33. closeupready Apr 2014 #95
I'm not sure I'm following your point. dawg Apr 2014 #119
I probably just THINK I have one, but really don't. closeupready Apr 2014 #127
you made me fuggin; laugh. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #133
Well there you go - I'm good for at least SOMETHING. closeupready Apr 2014 #134
point. seabeyond Apr 2014 #137
I don't think they believe that women cause all their problems. merrily Apr 2014 #33
I used to be a feminist. Helen Borg Apr 2014 #35
i have yet to hear one feminist advocate domination and i do not know one feminist that hates men. seabeyond Apr 2014 #36
Probably because you didn't go to the meetings. dawg Apr 2014 #43
bah hahahaha. but had meet ups to play. lol. seabeyond Apr 2014 #48
Here are more than a thousand quotes on feminism OnlinePoker Apr 2014 #47
that is a keeper. thank you. i use to have that until my puter crashed and i lost everything. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #51
Ha ha. Sure you did. Nine Apr 2014 #38
Thread attracted flies. Orsino Apr 2014 #50
Justification for hating men? knightmaar Apr 2014 #40
cool story, sis. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2014 #46
+10000 Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #55
you go to feminist meetings? you see the hate? you hear feminists want to dominate? seabeyond Apr 2014 #57
Meetings? With A Lot Of Man Hate? HangOnKids Apr 2014 #60
No you didn't. nt. NCTraveler Apr 2014 #89
Meetings? gollygee Apr 2014 #200
Wow. That's a pretty ridiculous bunch of nonsense there. All us feminists just had a meeting Squinch Apr 2014 #270
laughing my fuggin' fuggin' ass of. i take my wine straight thank you very much. seabeyond Apr 2014 #276
Lately I am into Manhattans. Squinch Apr 2014 #278
well. you did not go to the same meeting i did. cause a couple of the women swtich drinks more seabeyond Apr 2014 #279
It sounds like you all had a blast at THAT meeting! The graphics you sent back Squinch Apr 2014 #282
so much fun. we are looking at the midwest yawl..... but they are talking end of may, june and i seabeyond Apr 2014 #283
Let me know when you take on the east coast! Squinch Apr 2014 #284
too far. but.... i LOVE boston and want to hit maine. lol. been on du over ten yrs, seabeyond Apr 2014 #285
True. Squinch Apr 2014 #286
Sadly, the "movement" did have good intentions in the early days Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #52
Or at least cloaked itself with valid concerns. Orsino Apr 2014 #93
good point. we are takling men rights after all. i started hearing and supporting in the 80's. seabeyond Apr 2014 #98
This rhetoric alienates men from the party named in 48 point type at the top of this screen. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #54
The vast majority of black, Latino, and Asian male voters prefer the Democratic Party YoungDemCA Apr 2014 #56
The thing about elections... lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #70
Really? Last I checked, a Democrat won the last two presidential elections... YoungDemCA Apr 2014 #120
Because the GOP panders to their very worst instincts, and shamelessly. nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #257
It's up to each man to decide what being a man means. seabeyond Apr 2014 #58
Exactly. One person's right to self-determination ends where another's begins. nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #258
Sound and Fury Signifying Nothing HangOnKids Apr 2014 #62
Predictable. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2014 #67
Isn't knowing the response you'll get the definition of trolling? n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #74
no or knowing people would make them trolls CreekDog Apr 2014 #142
i will tell you something else that just hit me. for a man to tell us women that speaking out, seabeyond Apr 2014 #73
I want the party to attract men. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #81
Would you take "my issues" seriously if I define them as "what Iverglas thinks"? seabeyond Apr 2014 #85
You misunderstood me. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #90
I fail to see how pointing out the promlems with the MR movement on DU cyberswede Apr 2014 #96
...And yet no one has attempted to answer the challenge I posed. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #103
I'm sorry - what is the challenge you posed? cyberswede Apr 2014 #109
Here. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #113
ok cyberswede Apr 2014 #117
I saw that thread. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #136
I didn't mention any thread cyberswede Apr 2014 #141
The language you suggested i.e. "TERFs suck" lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #144
I didn't wade very deep into the muck of that thread... cyberswede Apr 2014 #150
TERF are disgusting human beings ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #232
Are you an MRA? ismnotwasm Apr 2014 #230
The thing you don't seem to get YoungDemCA Apr 2014 #129
Gee... The old 'people are voting repug because of rape culture talk' non-sense... Ohio Joe Apr 2014 #83
And let me ask further... What other right wing assholes are off limtis so they don't vote repug? Ohio Joe Apr 2014 #88
You expect to obtain equal rights by *losing* elections? lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #91
So... ignore issues for AA's, LGBT and women so we can win elections? Ohio Joe Apr 2014 #92
My comment wasn't about issues, it was about rhetoric. Specifically, the subject line. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #94
You miss the fact that these assholes are already voting repug... They are not being driven away... Ohio Joe Apr 2014 #99
"logical failure in 100 characters or less" exhibit #1. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #104
Well if YOU say it, it must be true... No need for facts or an explanation... Sheesh... Ohio Joe Apr 2014 #106
"they're not being driven away, they are voting for republicans" = unassailable logic. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #107
You are the one claiming that talk of equal right drives them away... You have evidence of this? Ohio Joe Apr 2014 #122
It makes absolutely no sense. Don't discuss your beliefs then you can get boston bean Apr 2014 #111
Yeah... It's pretty stupid. And when the MRA talking point is exposed as untrue, he walks... Ohio Joe Apr 2014 #187
Incredibly stupid. Thank you Joe for exposing this nonsense. bettyellen Apr 2014 #193
In this thread, you've also got someone boston bean Apr 2014 #202
Those MRAs mentioned in that thread have no intention of ever voting for Democrats. nt cyberswede Apr 2014 #100
i will go even a step further. i think it is incredibly laudable that jeff wants to increase white seabeyond Apr 2014 #102
and they know this by age 22? lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #105
Some probably do, some may not cyberswede Apr 2014 #112
"do you really think they are likely candidates to read DU?" i think there are a couple, seabeyond Apr 2014 #114
I'm saying that the rhetoric infects all levels of politics. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #116
Celebrating the success of women isn't implcitly celebrating the failure of men. cyberswede Apr 2014 #124
The implicit would be an improvement. I'm objecting to the explicit. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #130
Oh for Pete's sake. Obama isn't celebrating fewer men graduating from college. cyberswede Apr 2014 #139
If 25% less is "an accomplishment", then what's the eventual goal? n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #149
Obviously, the eventual goal is for everyone who wants to go to college... cyberswede Apr 2014 #152
Interesting interpretation. Very revealing. nt redqueen Apr 2014 #125
no cheering for the gals. makes the guys feel bad. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #126
Exactly! thucythucy Apr 2014 #207
Regarding college graduation rates, what's your definition of equality? lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #210
the equality came into women having the right to a college education. what comes out of it seabeyond Apr 2014 #217
Aah! "Equality of Opportunity, not Equality of Outcomes". lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #219
Bullshit argument. seabeyond Apr 2014 #221
You know Jeff, this is very frustrating. You and I had a colliquoy on just this subject thucythucy Apr 2014 #161
It's frustrating that I don't find "what used to be" a compelling justification for "what is"? lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #167
Your chart looks like cyberswede Apr 2014 #175
This was precisely the point I made when Jeff and I last touched base. thucythucy Apr 2014 #204
This is, as I recall, precisely the same graph you used before. thucythucy Apr 2014 #205
thanks thucy. i always figured it was just more women going to college and the mens number simply seabeyond Apr 2014 #182
Exactly. thucythucy Apr 2014 #212
Good example. Damansarajaya Apr 2014 #192
then quit framing womens rights as a competition with men. you solved your problem. seabeyond Apr 2014 #194
I think Obama created the competition. Damansarajaya Apr 2014 #197
no. he merely praised women. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #199
food past use date. how is that? arely staircase Apr 2014 #157
With a star, you shouldn't be seeing those ads on the top of your screen. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #169
well there is the weird trick..... nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #171
Honest question--has any woman at any time ever made a false charge of rape Damansarajaya Apr 2014 #61
Those aren't "false charges of rape." Nine Apr 2014 #65
But one can assume that the key witness Damansarajaya Apr 2014 #68
Eyewitness IDs are always risky, with any type of crime. Nine Apr 2014 #79
What does this have to do with the OP? HangOnKids Apr 2014 #148
What does this have to do with the OP? Damansarajaya Apr 2014 #170
your post was pointing out false claim reports when in fact that is not what it was pointing out seabeyond Apr 2014 #183
See the following link, please. Damansarajaya Apr 2014 #189
i am well aware of the facts. both u.k and u.s. 2-3 false. up to 8% unfounded. seabeyond Apr 2014 #191
Fair enough. That's the first answer anyone has given Damansarajaya Apr 2014 #195
yes. everyone knows, as you do. cool. you remain pointless. nt seabeyond Apr 2014 #196
"MRA" and "garbage" is an oxymoron. chrisa Apr 2014 #78
Oxymoron? Helen Borg Apr 2014 #86
You mean "tautology" (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Apr 2014 #87
Yep! chrisa Apr 2014 #177
MRAs should be shitcanned from DU just like racists; if I have to see another door-holding post alcibiades_mystery Apr 2014 #97
Careful...or you might drive them to vote for Republicans. cyberswede Apr 2014 #101
I wonder if anyone will alert on this. redqueen Apr 2014 #121
Did you know that the term "MRA talking points" shows up on google 234,000 times? lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #211
Yes, but she's not posting positive reviews of those talking points. cyberswede Apr 2014 #213
I have looked for them. The list is apparently only known to the authors of those 234k posts. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #216
...and also known to whoever posted all these cyberswede Apr 2014 #288
+1000 YoungDemCA Apr 2014 #123
I agree, but I have to say that the replies to the door-holding posts have become occasions for a Squinch Apr 2014 #272
Why are they garbage? I'll tell you why. Arkana Apr 2014 #108
and then, there is that too. seabeyond Apr 2014 #110
I bet there are more members of the Communist Party of America arely staircase Apr 2014 #115
Information is available if you care to read it. redqueen Apr 2014 #131
I get it arely staircase Apr 2014 #146
If you think they're as ineffective as the Communist Party, then no, you really don't. nt redqueen Apr 2014 #156
I bet 90 percent of women hqve never heqad of them. nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #158
And that matters why? nt redqueen Apr 2014 #160
it would suggest they are a small and inefectual bunch. arely staircase Apr 2014 #164
Have you ever seen these talking points? boston bean Apr 2014 #176
sure . I have heard all that arely staircase Apr 2014 #185
Did you bother reading either of those links? redqueen Apr 2014 #190
you give them way too much credit arely staircase Apr 2014 #198
Some men point out they're assholes too. cyberswede Apr 2014 #135
I wasn't limiting feminists to women. nt arely staircase Apr 2014 #153
oh cyberswede Apr 2014 #155
I'd never heard of the acronym "MRA" LittleBlue Apr 2014 #138
They are talking about GOP men AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #145
They could hope for no better mechanism to spread their message lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #151
Oh come on... cyberswede Apr 2014 #154
well, the google for starters. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #162
But the majority of those point out the ridiculousness of MRA talking points cyberswede Apr 2014 #166
Well done, cyberswede! Nt. thucythucy Apr 2014 #215
you'll get crickets and then he will go on and hope the next sucker thinks he sounds reasonable..... bettyellen Apr 2014 #238
As usual, you try to use deceptive stats... Ohio Joe Apr 2014 #218
Add the quotes and DU is #4 on the list. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #220
Did you look at #1 on your google search? I'm guessing... No Ohio Joe Apr 2014 #222
Yes - and the post talks about how MRA talking points come from an ugly place cyberswede Apr 2014 #287
I don't really think 'they' exist AgingAmerican Apr 2014 #159
I disagree cyberswede Apr 2014 #163
They could hope for their own Group on DU... Ohio Joe Apr 2014 #165
I must say, that's my experience too. Damansarajaya Apr 2014 #172
Indeed! You sound very informed! HangOnKids Apr 2014 #250
Fuggin' funny. seabeyond Apr 2014 #252
I didn't either, until a DU'er called me one. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2014 #214
Here's a list cyberswede Apr 2014 #290
MRA want it on the law books, it is legal to rape. in some cases. raping a wife is legal. 40-50% seabeyond Apr 2014 #292
There is a matriarchy, but it exists at a family level not a societal one McCamy Taylor Apr 2014 #143
These threads are scheduled for Tuesdays whistler162 Apr 2014 #147
And everyday is an attack on the oppressed. CFLDem Apr 2014 #181
As I've talked about in other threads, it's the hypocrisy of both sides that fuel this shit davidn3600 Apr 2014 #186
ha. it is the feminists fault for mens hate group. rollin' eye. you get the ironic in this, right? seabeyond Apr 2014 #188
Excellent points. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #226
Isn't it just awful BainsBane Apr 2014 #233
It's obvious you didn't even read the post I was responding to. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #234
I most certainly did read it BainsBane Apr 2014 #235
And yet, all you could do was post an ad hominem attack. Vashta Nerada Apr 2014 #236
And it's the fault of women BainsBane Apr 2014 #239
wonderful summary of why his POV is ridiculous. *applause* bettyellen Apr 2014 #242
That school argument is a stunning example of privilege BainsBane Apr 2014 #245
that women are outperforming men must be a real hard pill for some to bettyellen Apr 2014 #248
Why don't feminists fight for men's rights? BainsBane Apr 2014 #237
I never said prisons were too crowded for rapists...but I have said they are too crowded davidn3600 Apr 2014 #249
"What are you going to support next" BainsBane Apr 2014 #259
Boy you are good at taking things out of context and twisting it around to suit your agenda davidn3600 Apr 2014 #263
You chose to respond to an article about the release of a man who had raped 40 women BainsBane Apr 2014 #264
I'm done playing this game of circles with you davidn3600 Apr 2014 #265
"if nothing ever changes" LOL, read some history, fellow. And cancer screening - be it prostrate or bettyellen Apr 2014 #240
It's a perk when you consider women's lives superfulous, disposable BainsBane Apr 2014 #262
Preventing domestic violence is a perk for women? Starry Messenger Apr 2014 #243
david, i don't know any feminist who thinks that men should pay more for health insurance CreekDog Apr 2014 #244
if i had to choose to trust a random feminist or a random MRA to advocate for me CreekDog Apr 2014 #246
And that's perfectly acceptable to feel that way davidn3600 Apr 2014 #251
Nobody is shifting blame from the rapist. Maybe you ought not work so hard feeding a falsehood seabeyond Apr 2014 #253
More like shifting blame from the victim to the perpetrator. Because too many people nomorenomore08 Apr 2014 #261
The hypocrisy is in presenting feminism and MRAs as moral equivalents. Gormy Cuss Apr 2014 #291
I don't like to trash men or women Polito Vega Apr 2014 #267
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