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In reply to the discussion: Why the Supreme Court Should Kill ‘Obamacare’ [View all]TheKentuckian
(25,018 posts)Which seems to include compel and/or punish inactivity which is well beyond regulating activity entered into by free will.
It is one thing to tell me how fast I can drive on a particular road, it is another to tell me I must drive on a particular road, and yet another to tell me I must drive. Just to bring it up a notch the current argument seems to be that not only must you drive but that your employer will select your car for you but of course you will pay for it.
It is one thing to say, "TheKentuckian, if you are going to raise soybeans you have to deal with limits on your production or inspection of your product if it goes to market" and a wholly different critter to say "TheKentuckian, you have to grow soybeans" and even another to say "you have to grow soybeans but actually you have to pay Dave here to do it and provide his water, tools, seed, and whatever it takes to grow them" and still some other fucked up monster to tell me that my employer will be assigning a task outside work hours that I must complete in the interests of interstate commerce.
What doesn't at least impact interstate commerce? If you argue the power is unlimited, then what kind of government is created? How is that different than what we have fought for generation after generation to get away from?
Folks are arguing for the government to be able to dictate after tax spending and the ability to compel activity.
I almost hope some TeaPubliKlan makes us all buy employer selected firearms and porn with post tax dollars to teach some people a lesson...almost, I have no desire to be in any such arrangement regardless of the intentions or product.
I'm fucking astonished that so many find such things even remotely tolerable. The campaigning for unlimited power (sometimes unchecked power), I find against my grain to the point of being near feeling it is insane and certainly dangerously authoritarian. Particularly due to the high level of dangerous authoritarians in and around power in our country but also because history demonstrates throughout that such power attracts a bad lot.
Pleading for such a completely unbounded precedent and for so little in return, honestly is shortsighted and pollyanna, at best. I despise it and think it is idiotic big picture-wise from supposedly liberal people, it is a hard anti-self detemination move that GREATLY benefits from being seen through the lens of "healthcare" that is in no way whatsoever limited to "healthcare".
I really don't get it, what the hell is the thinking? Are we trying to be drones in a hive? Slaves? Serfs? Some new form of "small people" at the command of the state? Makes me fucking sick to tears.