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JDPriestly

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41. Excellent comment.

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Mon Mar 26, 2012, 05:23 PM

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You've gotta be kidding me Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #1

aka legalized murder noiretextatique Mar 2012 #3

Self defense is in the eyes of the survivor Hugabear Mar 2012 #2

Well said, Hugabear. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #4

There's a hidden part of the law. caseymoz Mar 2012 #7

Thank you. That was not in the statutes I read. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #8

Not just JB. What about ALEC, who wrote it? caseymoz Mar 2012 #12

kick Baitball Blogger Mar 2012 #22

Excellent comment. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #41

I'm going to keep quoting myself iverglas Mar 2012 #15

Stand Your Ground doesn't include a change in presumption. X_Digger Mar 2012 #20

I was replying to a post iverglas Mar 2012 #36

Thanks. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #40

It says the police have to have probable cause that the use of force wasn't reasonable. X_Digger Mar 2012 #19

If "standard" why is it repeated here, then? caseymoz Mar 2012 #24

It's redundant yes.. what, you think prosecution can happen without probable cause!?! X_Digger Mar 2012 #28

Yes, but once probable cause is vacated caseymoz Mar 2012 #30

Depends at what level and if jeopardy is attached. X_Digger Mar 2012 #33

I haven't even gone into the "as permitted in . . ." part. caseymoz Mar 2012 #34

(1) and (2) don't apply- those are castle doctrine -- we're not talking about.. X_Digger Mar 2012 #35

We'll see. caseymoz Mar 2012 #37

I'm optomistic, yes. X_Digger Mar 2012 #38

You have a problem here. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #44

Maybe that point isn't demonstrated. caseymoz Mar 2012 #50

A jury could find intent in some of this statements during the call. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #51

The problem is that people who think like animals and want to kill JDPriestly Mar 2012 #42

As I said in another reply, people who think like animals and want to kill.. X_Digger Mar 2012 #45

But they will have to go to court and face a jury which Zimmerman needs to do. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #47

There's nothing in the law stopping them from arresting him right now. X_Digger Mar 2012 #49

Yes. I agree, but apparently there have been few convictions JDPriestly Mar 2012 #52

But as in this situation, this law makes people like Zimmerman feel empowered JDPriestly Mar 2012 #39

People inclined to go looking for trouble aren't going to let a law get in their way. X_Digger Mar 2012 #43

No matter what he said after the shooting, he admitted in his call to 911 JDPriestly Mar 2012 #46

I agree. X_Digger Mar 2012 #48

Agreed. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #53

No CIVIL recourse either? liberalhistorian Mar 2012 #10

I'm not a lawyer, but that's my reading of it. caseymoz Mar 2012 #11

The only hope is with a federal civil rights case Major Nikon Mar 2012 #14

That's exactly what it means and it's even worse than that Major Nikon Mar 2012 #13

Actually, ALEC wrote the law. caseymoz Mar 2012 #26

Same nut, different tree Major Nikon Mar 2012 #29

sadly, they have one quasi-legal recourse allowed to them magical thyme Mar 2012 #23

Except other states have adopted photocopies of law. caseymoz Mar 2012 #31

No, the police may not arrest *anyone* without probable cause X_Digger Mar 2012 #17

The "Gunshine State".... daleanime Mar 2012 #5

And his brother was shot by police because he was threatening to commit suicide? csziggy Mar 2012 #6

How do people in other civilized countries manage to survive without reaching for weapons sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #9

What I can't understand is, why does any state feel the NEED for this kind of law? William Seger Mar 2012 #16

no, but when I lived in Massachusetts they enacted a law magical thyme Mar 2012 #25

Arguments used to end with fistfights. Now they end with dead bodies. mainer Mar 2012 #18

This is the world that Republicans have created for us. Baitball Blogger Mar 2012 #21

To think this is 2012 and we are going backwards goclark Mar 2012 #27

Your last sentence says it all. Baitball Blogger Mar 2012 #32