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du rec. nt xchrom Mar 2012 #1
The coverage of this issue is universally misleading lumberjack_jeff Mar 2012 #2
Lumberjack, I'm curious. Puzzledtraveller Mar 2012 #4
Because that is how Blue Dogs think. And that is why Blue Dogs need to be run out of the party. (nt) w4rma Mar 2012 #8
+1000 nt abelenkpe Mar 2012 #15
That's the Tea Party Strategy Richardo Mar 2012 #21
How is 70% Blue Dogs better? RC Mar 2012 #34
Seats Richardo Mar 2012 #71
Meaningless without policy kenfrequed Mar 2012 #111
That is one opinion. We don't have the backing of a few Billionaire and a full time propaganda Vincardog Mar 2012 #55
So you say that the republicans are a 170% political party Autumn Apr 2012 #141
The De Facto third party corporate supremacists would stand the most to gain. Uncle Joe Mar 2012 #10
He doesn't literally mean "designed." Loudly Mar 2012 #13
When the parties are as far apart as we are, there's no middle ground. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2012 #59
They managed to mandate that woo me with science Mar 2012 #23
I believe you nailed it, woo me with science. Uncle Joe Mar 2012 #25
^^this^^ me b zola Mar 2012 #128
Say it again! bvar22 Mar 2012 #132
+100000 Well said and worth its own OP woo me with science Apr 2012 #133
Yes. Exactly. annabanana Apr 2012 #142
I think both Single Payer and the Public Option were out of the picture Jackpine Radical Mar 2012 #33
That is his tragic flaw. He gives a lot before he gets anything. If it is not deliberate it is sad Vincardog Mar 2012 #56
Harry and Louise were speaking for the smaller insurance companies eridani Mar 2012 #64
There were ways that COULD have worked. bvar22 Mar 2012 #105
The Republicans are already making themselves unelectable, so if you're right, and Jackpine Radical Mar 2012 #116
Then the voters allow that treestar Apr 2012 #135
People are obviously vulnerable to advertising. Jackpine Radical Apr 2012 #136
We can always ignore their ads or look at them critically treestar Apr 2012 #137
"We"--or many of us anyway--already do that. Jackpine Radical Apr 2012 #140
Agreed, that is the issue treestar Apr 2012 #145
In the long run, I think the free flow of information Jackpine Radical Apr 2012 #146
I agree, the corporate media don't believe in bringing up the issue of how for profit insurance Uncle Joe Mar 2012 #7
I see no reason CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #28
The millionaires and billionaires who are profiting by denying care oppose Medicare for all Vincardog Mar 2012 #58
The depressing aspect of the poll is that Progressives want to see the law fail. bluestate10 Mar 2012 #81
I Agree YOHABLO Mar 2012 #91
But I thought that Obama Care limited Insurance Company profits on health care coverage to 15% Walk away Mar 2012 #104
Actually, I believe it limits non-medical uses of premiums to 15%, including profit MannyGoldstein Mar 2012 #106
There are two sides to this coin, however, l_j Doctor_J Mar 2012 #110
Krugman: Supreme Thoughts ProSense Mar 2012 #3
Same ole lie zipplewrath Mar 2012 #26
And Medicare premiums Sgent Mar 2012 #27
More ProSense Mar 2012 #30
And yet the law is very specific zipplewrath Mar 2012 #35
Really? ProSense Mar 2012 #37
It is not universal zipplewrath Mar 2012 #38
Well, ProSense Mar 2012 #40
Prove it zipplewrath Mar 2012 #43
Speaking ProSense Mar 2012 #44
Let's get this straight. zipplewrath Mar 2012 #46
How about ProSense Mar 2012 #47
No, you zipplewrath Mar 2012 #49
Here ProSense Mar 2012 #50
Nuttin' huh? zipplewrath Mar 2012 #95
This message was self-deleted by its author zipplewrath Mar 2012 #51
It differs from true universal health care in TWO important ways: Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2012 #53
Krugman: ProSense Mar 2012 #61
But in our screwed up system, an older person like myself Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2012 #89
Uhm... kenfrequed Mar 2012 #113
Somehow I doubt that fans of Krugman's critique of Obama mzmolly Mar 2012 #87
Doesn't matter what % wants this. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2012 #5
cough *this law expanded medicaid eligibility* cough phleshdef Mar 2012 #6
Wonderful. Too bad Medicaid bux are being slashed right and left at state and federal levels n/t eridani Mar 2012 #92
Medicare for All is the only thing hifiguy Mar 2012 #9
What about my weird dream? mazzarro Mar 2012 #11
nice dream, pessimistic about it happening in real life northoftheborder Mar 2012 #14
Because it controls the costs they can charge /nt still_one Mar 2012 #19
Uh, we already had control of the house and senate and they decided that ACA was the way to go. progressoid Mar 2012 #29
Gonna keep repeating it: SINGLE. PAYER. RIGHT. EFFIN'. NOW. kestrel91316 Mar 2012 #12
Candidate for this year's "You Call This NEWS?" Award rocktivity Mar 2012 #16
and how would he do that? If the HCR is ruled unconstitutional, Obama loses the election /nt still_one Mar 2012 #18
And why would it cost him the election? rocktivity Mar 2012 #24
Because that is what he hung his first two years on, and if it was ruled unconstitutional, the still_one Mar 2012 #63
That might be the case, but I think the effect would be the opposite rocktivity Mar 2012 #125
Here is the reality, single payer would NOT have passed in 2008. The blue dogs and repugs would still_one Mar 2012 #17
Health Insurance Reform zipplewrath Mar 2012 #36
I agree mostly, however, by virtue of covering 40 million uninsured, it should save emergency room still_one Mar 2012 #62
We'll see zipplewrath Mar 2012 #75
It most assuredly did NOT federalize regulation, which is specifically left to the states n/t eridani Mar 2012 #93
It didn't? zipplewrath Mar 2012 #94
That is all irrelevant if actual enforcement is left to the states eridani Mar 2012 #123
Obama said it was Insurance Finance Reform. Autumn Apr 2012 #143
Great, realistic post. bluestate10 Mar 2012 #84
Then our "democracy" is a farce. It's as simple as that. nt Romulox Mar 2012 #109
I'm extra glad the Dems compromised away the best solution, that 2/3 of the public supported phantom power Mar 2012 #20
^^^^^^ Yes, the Dems had control and they silenced discussion of a universal, not for profit system slipslidingaway Mar 2012 #90
I'd start by blaming Lieberman. JoePhilly Mar 2012 #96
Start by calling him zipplewrath Mar 2012 #98
What leverage did they have .... your "call him" is nonsense. JoePhilly Mar 2012 #117
Kinda depends upon what HE says zipplewrath Mar 2012 #119
Weak strawman ... JoePhilly Mar 2012 #122
And you know this??? zipplewrath Mar 2012 #124
Funny how Kucinich got the 'come to Jesus' plane ride and not Lieberman..... Edweird Apr 2012 #144
It was ALL Joe Lieberman's fault!!!! bvar22 Mar 2012 #107
Sorry, I'm calling Bullshit MannyGoldstein Mar 2012 #115
So you can't actually answer the question ... got it. JoePhilly Mar 2012 #118
For one thing, the White House could have used THIS: bvar22 Mar 2012 #131
Dems set the agenda for the HC reform discussions long before the vote took place ... slipslidingaway Mar 2012 #129
The GOP really had the upper hand, as they control the Blue Dogs in the Dem Party. NorthCarolina Mar 2012 #97
Blue Dogs leveraged the GOP zipplewrath Mar 2012 #99
Check out ProSense Mar 2012 #22
Gee...what a surprise. Safetykitten Mar 2012 #31
71% wanted the public option before the gop pissed all over it. nt wiggs Mar 2012 #32
thanks to town cryers like you Whisp Mar 2012 #39
When did I suggest that? MannyGoldstein Mar 2012 #42
when? Whisp Mar 2012 #45
In other words... MannyGoldstein Mar 2012 #73
Oh, Manny...there you go again. Zorra Mar 2012 #41
They want it until the Conservative media tells them they don't maximusveritas Mar 2012 #48
Medicare for All lovuian Mar 2012 #52
Reveals the disingenuous way that "disapproval" gets reported SoCalDem Mar 2012 #54
duh a2liberal Mar 2012 #57
Actually it's HeritageNewtRomneyObamaCare if one were to do it chronologically from Dragonfli Mar 2012 #60
Gotta give Bob Dole his due as well. Before or after Gingrich will do. TheKentuckian Mar 2012 #67
You're Right!!! I can't believe I went and denied him credit due, thanks for reminding me Dragonfli Mar 2012 #69
IIRC MannyGoldstein Mar 2012 #76
Can't blame them for taking a bow, they spent over 20 years buying this law. /nt Dragonfli Mar 2012 #78
Not at allincredible. maddiemom Mar 2012 #65
Why is that "incredible"?? DCBob Mar 2012 #66
Not just Rethugs JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2012 #100
Medicare for all. WHEN CRABS ROAR Mar 2012 #68
That will be the first piece of legislation usrname Mar 2012 #70
That's been true since the 1st!!!! AlbertCat Mar 2012 #72
It always had been but any voice trying to get the attention of Congress, when Cleita Mar 2012 #74
Understand, if you can get off a high horse. bluestate10 Mar 2012 #77
Then why go way back over 20 years to a Heritage Foundation law that makes it even worse? Dragonfli Mar 2012 #79
Just curious: ever heard of Medicare? MannyGoldstein Mar 2012 #80
You mean like Medicare? Doctor_J Mar 2012 #121
If our taxes can pay for illegal invasions, why can they not be used for Universal HC? WinkyDink Mar 2012 #82
Because UHC would reduce incomes for MannyGoldstein Mar 2012 #83
When you mention figures, there is little support Yo_Mama Mar 2012 #85
Do you really want to know what they think? bvar22 Mar 2012 #127
That can't work Yo_Mama Mar 2012 #130
Thanks Manny. I can't resist this quote chill_wind Mar 2012 #86
Great quote, thanks! MannyGoldstein Mar 2012 #88
‘Don’t repeal health law..." ProSense Mar 2012 #101
Single Payer health care rocks! Quantess Mar 2012 #102
Keeping us sick and dependent on our overlords is the plan of the 1% libtodeath Mar 2012 #103
What is the yearly cost to Americans.... bvar22 Mar 2012 #108
I've always been clear - I want for-profit insurance companies OUT OF THE LOOP. saras Mar 2012 #112
Funny how that fact gets so little media attention! polichick Mar 2012 #114
Why is that incredible? LWolf Mar 2012 #120
Well, gee. woo me with science Mar 2012 #126
Something must be wrong with the polling treestar Apr 2012 #134
it's not popular with "the right people" unfortunately. librechik Apr 2012 #138
People like Obamacare at first, until it was attacked Freddie Stubbs Apr 2012 #139
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