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23. best we can do is what he hope for our own country, that its national self-esteem not

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Mon Mar 17, 2014, 01:12 PM

Mar 2014

be so wrapped up in the use of military force.

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FACT SHEET: Ukraine-Related Sanctions (updated) [View all] ProSense Mar 2014 OP

Whoop-dee-shit. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #1

Well, dimissing these and ProSense Mar 2014 #2

at some point people will stop believing him when he engages in tough talk. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #3

You know, ProSense Mar 2014 #5

no less effective than these 'sanctions' geek tragedy Mar 2014 #7

Again, ProSense Mar 2014 #10

I am against talking tough and then acting weak. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #12

You ProSense Mar 2014 #14

targeting Putin's plutocratic buddies, or doing something of actual economic consequence geek tragedy Mar 2014 #16

Why do you keep insisting that his "plutocratic buddies" weren't? n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #17

7 officials, that's it. 7. all in the government. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #19

There are more than seven people listed in the OP, and ProSense Mar 2014 #24

4 of them are Ukrainians or Crimeans. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #25

"when the plutocrats start losing money, then we'll know the EU and US are serious " ProSense Mar 2014 #28

I would have thought this would be praised treestar Mar 2014 #45

except it doesn't go after the 1%--it is very likely that not a dime geek tragedy Mar 2014 #48

In your other thread one of them is treestar Mar 2014 #49

The Russians are not scared of us in the least bit. Rex Mar 2014 #4

seems to be a bipartisan area of agreement when it comes to Russia. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #6

I agree, we have huge problems in America right now. Rex Mar 2014 #9

I think Putin realizes now that the Europe and China don't have any stomach for geek tragedy Mar 2014 #13

Plus he knows good and well NO country wants to be responsible for starting WWIII. Rex Mar 2014 #15

Russia's always going to be authoritarian. That's just how they roll there. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #21

True, my wishing for a democratic government to emerge is just that. Wishing. Rex Mar 2014 #22

best we can do is what he hope for our own country, that its national self-esteem not geek tragedy Mar 2014 #23

Yes. The last thing we need is a Rambo general all pissed off cuz he Rex Mar 2014 #26

I get the impulse to avoid pissing the Russians off and being cautious, I also geek tragedy Mar 2014 #36

You think that was considered when the sanctions were imposed? n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #8

I don't really know, but I do think Putin is making a huge mistake Rex Mar 2014 #11

Sanctioning the plutocrats won't work -- they have too many friends in the West. FarCenter Mar 2014 #18

I think it was an attempt at Western Justice. Rex Mar 2014 #20

So it would work if they didn't have "too many friends in the West"? ProSense Mar 2014 #27

You could look them up yourself, and assess how vulnerable they are. FarCenter Mar 2014 #33

What is that supposed to be a list of: friends in the "West"? n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #43

It is the list of the top 10 Russian billionaires, i.e. the leading oligarchs. FarCenter Mar 2014 #44

Nuke 'em! Nuke 'em! Nuke 'em! YeeHaw!!!!! grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #50

Needs a little more teeth, though if this is just a preview, that's good. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #29

Big fucking deal. Weak-assed bullshit. That ought to teach Puti! nt ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #30

Yeah, but look at the reaction it got from you. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #31

Oh, forgot to ask, what would you consider not "weak-assed bullshit"? n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #32

Well, the sanctions could have included Puti, Medvedev, and other deputies. Also, ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #35

The singling out of individuals seems really petty - and a little weird, imo. reformist2 Mar 2014 #34

Weak, is the word. nt ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #37

Didn't you just single out individuals above? n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #39

With Puti and Medvedev, etc, it would be less weak, but still weak. Anything less than a total ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #40

Well, ProSense Mar 2014 #42

What is the procedure for expulsion from the UN Security Council? treestar Mar 2014 #46

It's typical. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #38

It's weak. nt ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #41

Kick & highly recommended! William769 Mar 2014 #47

K&R sheshe2 Mar 2014 #51

Thanks for posting and passing this on. We'll see what develops. pinto Mar 2014 #52

You're welcome. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #53

Londongrad Dealmakers Face Sanctions Hit After $180 Billion Boom ProSense Mar 2014 #54