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In reply to the discussion: Who's wreaked more international havoc lately? US or Russia? [View all]Cha
(296,775 posts)124. Thanks for those Pesky Details of Putin's Attacks, PS..
The Fight for Democracy in Ukraine: A Conversation with Center UAs Svitlana Zalischuk
BY Micah L. Sifry
In the third and last part of our conversation, I asked Zalischuk about the referendum about to take place in Russian-occupied Crimea and the massive Russian troop presence across the border from eastern Ukraine. Russian invaded Ukraine, she said, mincing no words about Vladimir Putins actions in the wake of Yanukovychs departure from office. The referendum itself doesnt mean anything, she added, noting that the choice was between yes and yes, and didnt give people a choice of maintaining the status quo. You cant conduct a democratic referendum when a whole country is invaded and controlled by the troops of a foreign country.
This is not a conflict between Ukraine and Russia, she said, its a conflict between the civilized world and totalitarianism, one that undermines the whole architecture of the European and world community. I asked her about the idea that the democracy movement in Ukraine was mostly strongest in the western part of the country and not so much from the eastern half, where Yanukovych got the majority of votes. She said the picture was more complicated, because Yanukovych himself had campaigned in favor of stronger ties with Europe when he was running for president.
http://techpresident.com/news/wegov/24827/fight-democracy-ukraine-conversation-center-uas-svitlana-zalischuk
Travel Guide To Moscow
"First of all, Russia has become very corrupt throughout the last few years. Vladimir Putin has now been in office for twelve years and over those twelve years he has eliminated most elections, monopolized major media, and destroyed the democratic political system. Everyday people are brutally arrested for starting and participating in anti-Putin protests, while some are even detained simply for being nearby. Clearly, Putins actions are those of a dictator, and he plans to stay in power as long as possible."
http://sites.psu.edu/egorivanov/2014/01/31/travel-guide-to-moscow/
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TBH, probably Russia at this point, especially with the shenanigans in the Ukraine. nt
AverageJoe90
Mar 2014
#1
No there is no justification of invading another country. But I guess you think it's ok if
rhett o rick
Mar 2014
#125
But writing "etc."... At some point DU's Admins need to take a stand for basic human decency. nt
MannyGoldstein
Mar 2014
#193
manny, you are a smart guy, you deal on the shadowy edge of tactical trolling. you have mad skills.
dionysus
Mar 2014
#185
I was wondering if I was the only person that noted the OPs focus only on the last five years
Number23
Mar 2014
#58
Hey, if there isn't a ruckus goin on in the world, we ain't doin our job...GO USA GO USA
bkanderson76
Mar 2014
#69
Usually when people point out that "Putin is KGB" they fail to also
nationalize the fed
Mar 2014
#95
Two wars, drone strikes in unoccupied countries, NSA spying on foreign government leaders...
PoliticalPothead
Mar 2014
#79