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Response to tridim (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 03:40 PM

15. If the student had the gun out and was pointing at me

or was yelling "I want to fucking kill you" then it would be self defense. A reasonable person would assume that there was an immediate threat.

If I saw the gun in his backpack or in a holster it would not be self defense - a reasonable person would assume that there was no immediate threat.

The mere presence of a gun does not constitute a threat (despite what many here believe) - it is that actions of the person with the gun that matter. There is tons of case law on this - it is not complicated or new.

btw, where did I ever say that I would mow done a student? What I said was that the more likely threat would be a student with an illegal gun. Since the professor has been living with that threat for a long time with no issues, he does not need to all of a sudden change his behavior because of the possibility of a CCW holder being in his class. That's all.

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