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In the discussion thread: I'm gonna say it and I don't care what gun nuts think... [View all]

Fri Mar 23, 2012, 11:22 PM

cynatnite (27,122 posts)

101. Sorry, I meant drinking and driving...

Guns exist for 2 reasons....for killing and for self-defense. Owning and operating cars has more requirements than own and operating a gun. I find that pretty screwed up.

For as dangerous as these things are, there should be more regulation and limits on them. The same goes for the owners who think they have to have a gun for whatever reason.

This should be a no-brainer.

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251 replies	Author	Time	Post
I'm gonna say it and I don't care what gun nuts think... [View all]	LynneSin	Mar 2012	OP
it's a paranoid gun nut's wet dream	Skittles	Mar 2012	#1
I swear to god this better not happen up here in the Northeast	LynneSin	Mar 2012	#3
That law calling for recip for CCW laws from other states	HockeyMom	Mar 2012	#33
Actually, no..	X_Digger	Mar 2012	#38
They would have a major problem in NY	HockeyMom	Mar 2012	#44
It's always encumbent on a person to know the laws of the state you're in..	X_Digger	Mar 2012	#47
We also know that the NRA and it's army of gun extremists want to force their...	Walk away	Mar 2012	#135
Unfortunately, by the time the NRA is done there won't be	Doctor_J	Mar 2012	#69
Nah, even in Heller, some regulations were explicitly seen as constitutional.	X_Digger	Mar 2012	#71
Really?	4bucksagallon	Mar 2012	#113
Unfortunately it is happening here in Mass.	DippyDem	Mar 2012	#136
was he convicted of domestic violence?	gejohnston	Mar 2012	#219
I wish I could recommend this post to infinity..	Tikki	Mar 2012	#2
If they are criminals to start with, yeah	RobertEarl	Mar 2012	#4
They are not criminals until they are...	movonne	Mar 2012	#6
gun nuts are dangerous and borderline criminals	LynneSin	Mar 2012	#7
!	BlancheSplanchnik	Mar 2012	#12
Absolutely spot-on!!!	TeamsterDem	Mar 2012	#17
When my husband went deer hunting	HockeyMom	Mar 2012	#36
So what's wrong with handgun hunting?	Johnny Rico	Mar 2012	#67
Going varmit hunting with Mittens? n/t	ellisonz	Mar 2012	#120
Going to treat the subject seriously?	Johnny Rico	Mar 2012	#133
It doesn't deserve the serious treatement. n/t	ellisonz	Mar 2012	#180
Why not? I honestly don't understand your reaction.	Johnny Rico	Mar 2012	#181
If you don't understand...	ellisonz	Mar 2012	#183
It was brought up in post #36 by someone else. I simply replied.	Johnny Rico	Mar 2012	#186
Handgun hunting?	Bohunk68	Mar 2012	#124
I think it was sarcasm. n/t	fasttense	Mar 2012	#130
On the contrary.	Johnny Rico	Mar 2012	#132
Oh...I must have just imagined this then:	Johnny Rico	Mar 2012	#131
Well said Johnney Rico	Nanjing03	Mar 2012	#156
Hunting with a handgun is common and legal in many states ...	spin	Mar 2012	#235
are ya kidding me??? My hunting friends are gonna laugh at this	fascisthunter	Mar 2012	#145
See #131	Johnny Rico	Mar 2012	#147
well.. alrighty then	fascisthunter	Mar 2012	#148
I'm glad you find an explanation of handgun hunting so funny.	Johnny Rico	Mar 2012	#153
"Handjob Hunting"	NBachers	Mar 2012	#196
Um...okay...whatever floats your boat!	Johnny Rico	Mar 2012	#197
K&R	TheCowsCameHome	Mar 2012	#5
This is also why I hate these conceal and carry laws...	cynatnite	Mar 2012	#8
In most states a CCW requires some training and a background check	TeamsterDem	Mar 2012	#13
I've been in the military and I've handled a weapon...	cynatnite	Mar 2012	#15
Well I think getting handguns and legally concealing them aren't necessarily the same thing	TeamsterDem	Mar 2012	#22
the problem is that the "responsible folks" who own guns may not be "responsible" forever...but	CTyankee	Mar 2012	#29
Then we should repeal driving privileges for everyone too	TeamsterDem	Mar 2012	#37
So what is your solution? How do you keep the nuts from killing people so you can have your	CTyankee	Mar 2012	#42
What I say to his family is neither here nor there	TeamsterDem	Mar 2012	#52
Of course you are not responsible.	CTyankee	Mar 2012	#59
Once again you're putting the responsibility on the wrong party	TeamsterDem	Mar 2012	#75
That's it - let's do nothing and in a decade there will be another 100 million guns on street.	Hoyt	Mar 2012	#55
Many of us with guns don't believe in that ridiculous law	TeamsterDem	Mar 2012	#86
I'm a have a reasonable number at home, but leave em there, type.	Hoyt	Mar 2012	#98
News flash! Gun manufacturers make money by selling guns! Details at 11.	Johnny Rico	Mar 2012	#158
Details -- If you make money off guns, you likely don't really give a crud who gets killed.	Hoyt	Mar 2012	#160
So what's your solution to this "problem"? Prohibit gun manufacturers from advertising	Johnny Rico	Mar 2012	#161
Society needs to look a guns like stinking cigars, swastikas, confederate flags, Republicans,	Hoyt	Mar 2012	#166
Rather than a rant about all the evils of the world, what policies do you advocate?	Johnny Rico	Mar 2012	#168
Yeah, evey gun owner claims to be a "responsible" gun owner.	xtraxritical	Mar 2012	#106
Gun control does not equal a reduced murder rate	TeamsterDem	Mar 2012	#122
Another NRA useless fact. Grinding poverty must have nothing to to with it.	Walk away	Mar 2012	#142
I suspect the fact isn't as "useless" as it is inconvenient for your position	TeamsterDem	Mar 2012	#204
But where are your NRA statistics about the murder rate in South Africa?	Walk away	Mar 2012	#237
Why are you insisting that I'm getting information from the NRA?	TeamsterDem	Mar 2012	#238
There are going to be another 100 million guns in a decade (or two) even if you do something.	Johnny Rico	Mar 2012	#165
Then we should repeal driving privileges for everyone too	AlbertCat	Mar 2012	#56
I know analogies are sometimes asking a bit much of the listener	TeamsterDem	Mar 2012	#66
So I can conceal my car and use it to kill?	Progressive dog	Mar 2012	#129
you use your gun every day for work, chores and leisure?	Warren Stupidity	Mar 2012	#162
You're exaggerating the analogy to make a point, but exaggeration isn't useful	TeamsterDem	Mar 2012	#211
When driving a car, you are required to attend a class, have a license and insurance...	cynatnite	Mar 2012	#97
That's for driving a car. But owning one doesn't necessarily require any of that	TeamsterDem	Mar 2012	#100
Sorry, I meant drinking and driving...	cynatnite	Mar 2012	#101
Well, cars kill more people than guns each year	TeamsterDem	Mar 2012	#108
Guns are designed to be dangerous...they are weapons.	cynatnite	Mar 2012	#111
Don't exaggerate my position	TeamsterDem	Mar 2012	#118
So fine. Keep your gun in your house. Take it out on the streets: get a license.	Warren Stupidity	Mar 2012	#163
I think most people agree that carrying it should require a license. I certainly do	TeamsterDem	Mar 2012	#207
This part confuses me......................	oneshooter	Mar 2012	#220
Where I live any handgun must be registered with the police department	TeamsterDem	Mar 2012	#221
You went off the rails a little there bud.	beevul	Mar 2012	#208
This Is The Gun Rights Movement's Concept Of A Convincing Argument...... (n/t)	Paladin	Mar 2012	#222
I'm the gun rights movement now, am I?	beevul	Mar 2012	#232
What does a car have to do with a gun? That's one of the usual arguments the NRA teaches you but...	Walk away	Mar 2012	#140
First off, the NRA has never "taught" me anything; I'm not a member and never have been	TeamsterDem	Mar 2012	#213
And by the way, you most certainly CAN "drive your kids to school in a car"	WinniSkipper	Apr 2012	#251
CCW/CPW Safety and Responsibility	Nanjing03	Mar 2012	#194
Excellent, excellent post!! nt	TeamsterDem	Mar 2012	#215
Whenever a friend or acquaintance mention getting a concealed carry permit,	aka-chmeee	Mar 2012	#141
wrong place	treestar	Mar 2012	#173
K-and fucking-Recommended!!	madinmaryland	Mar 2012	#9
+ whatevernumberispopular	DisgustipatedinCA	Mar 2012	#10
k&r	rhett o rick	Mar 2012	#11
Great post LynneSin. I've always thought this is like sex to these losers. F**k the NRA..n/t	monmouth	Mar 2012	#14
I don't know anyone	veganlush	Mar 2012	#16
I don't really know anyone who doesn't believe in the 2nd Amendment.	TheKentuckian	Mar 2012	#23
I'm against 2a fundamentalism.	xchrom	Mar 2012	#28
+ 100000000000	Hoyt	Mar 2012	#57
well put. Exactly.	NRaleighLiberal	Mar 2012	#84
If only the wingnuts would use the rules of English grammar the 2nd would not	nanabugg	Mar 2012	#89
Putting innocent people in their graves is authoritarian...eom	Kolesar	Mar 2012	#34
Maybe, but I think such is beyond the libertarian/authoritarian/liberal/conservative frames	TheKentuckian	Mar 2012	#193
I read a very interesting piece in the NY Times about the U.S. Constitution's popularity with	CTyankee	Mar 2012	#35
The primary issue is ours is one of the first	jeff47	Mar 2012	#224
A written constitution that is unworkable is a problem! What good is it if you can't USE it?	CTyankee	Mar 2012	#230
It's says the right to bear arms	veganlush	Mar 2012	#74
It's says the right to bear arms shall not be infringed.	AlbertCat	Mar 2012	#203
exactly	veganlush	Mar 2012	#234
So far	veganlush	Mar 2012	#77
As the country gets Bluer, i.e., more Democratic, thanks to demographics, the "gun rights" crowd is	apocalypsehow	Mar 2012	#206
Then you must not know 73% of Americans	TeamsterDem	Mar 2012	#26
tiny sampling poll, high margin of error.	CTyankee	Mar 2012	#53
The MOE is ±3 and the sample size was more than adequate	TeamsterDem	Mar 2012	#121
well, the moe was 6 and 4, breaking it down...	CTyankee	Mar 2012	#143
Gun Control Is Dead	Nanjing03	Mar 2012	#177
Given the enormous amount of (mostly)Republican money that went into the coffers	CTyankee	Mar 2012	#179
The maximum MOE as explicitly stated by Gallup was 3	TeamsterDem	Mar 2012	#218
Owning guns is a separate issue. I have no problems with that	LynneSin	Mar 2012	#87
I live in the south so I don't know anyone that doesn't believe in it.	TNLib	Mar 2012	#64
zero infringement?	veganlush	Mar 2012	#114
It is	treestar	Mar 2012	#174
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!	WillyT	Mar 2012	#18
Yup, kick and recommend	nadinbrzezinski	Mar 2012	#19
SYG = my ego won't let me back away, so i'm gonna whip out my insecurity-assuager	KG	Mar 2012	#20
Wish that our govt killing innocent people with guns/bombs/drones got this much press	The Straight Story	Mar 2012	#21
+1000000000	L0oniX	Mar 2012	#40
That would be nice, but your red herring doesn't make murder go away.	HuckleB	Mar 2012	#54
Government killing innocent people with guns/bombs/drones is predictable collateral damage	indepat	Mar 2012	#88
This horrible case is just what millions have been afraid of happening when this law was debated	got root	Mar 2012	#24
I'll say it again. I worked in a town for nearly 30 years	rustydog	Mar 2012	#25
K&R	Eyerish	Mar 2012	#27
Absolutely agree with you.	crim son	Mar 2012	#30
This law is legal murder plan and simple.	southernyankeebelle	Mar 2012	#31
Legal murder? What an interesting concept.	sikorsky	Mar 2012	#45
Well think about it.	southernyankeebelle	Mar 2012	#81
By definition, murder is an unlawful killing of a human being by a human being.	Kennah	Mar 2012	#104
aka, 'jumbo shrimp', 'military intelligence'.. etc. n/t	X_Digger	Mar 2012	#112
Yep and that is what happened.	southernyankeebelle	Mar 2012	#134
I'll spell it out. Legal murder is an oxymoron.	Kennah	Mar 2012	#201
ok	southernyankeebelle	Mar 2012	#209
On the question of "Is George Zimmerman an unindicted murderer?" I would say yes.	Kennah	Mar 2012	#212
Your right. But as far as am concerned he still murdered an unarmed young man. That makes him a	southernyankeebelle	Mar 2012	#226
So then we agree he is an unindicted murderer	Kennah	Mar 2012	#246
ok, picky, picky, picky LOL I agree	southernyankeebelle	Mar 2012	#247
I think it's significant since it appears we're on opposite sides of SYG	Kennah	Mar 2012	#248
Your right.	southernyankeebelle	Mar 2012	#249
This poster is no longer with us.	ellisonz	Mar 2012	#123
K&r nt	abelenkpe	Mar 2012	#32
I know you all don't want to hear this but everytime there is a DU poll about who owns a gun...	L0oniX	Mar 2012	#39
Absolutely agree with everything you wrote. nt	TeamsterDem	Mar 2012	#41
this has nutt'n to do with gun owners, just the kooks supporting the bizarre gun lobby law of SYG	got root	Mar 2012	#80
Agreed.	Jester Messiah	Mar 2012	#170
This post was hidden by jury decision.	sikorsky	Mar 2012	#43
I vote for a constitutional amendment that legalizes human hunting.	Kablooie	Mar 2012	#46
++ Fucking Brazillions!!!	jannyk	Mar 2012	#48
Gun Nuts, in the old Moderator version of the DU this would have been locked. Not anymore!	Logical	Mar 2012	#49
And you can call the opposition gun grabbers too	jpak	Mar 2012	#229
obviously!	Douglas Carpenter	Mar 2012	#50
These laws have absolutely NOTHING to do with 2nd amendment rights.	AlbertCat	Mar 2012	#51
and possibly arming a future army consisting of	glinda	Mar 2012	#154
Not trying to be an ass here	johnnie	Mar 2012	#58
Ed Shultz just highlighted another case that just happened in Wisconsin due to the castle law	TNLib	Mar 2012	#72
That was a 20 yr old man hiding in an enclosed back porch in which he was trespassing at 2 am	piedmont	Mar 2012	#109
the point is there was no investigation and someone should not be shot just for tresspassing	TNLib	Mar 2012	#151
"After careful review of the evidence in this case, and for the reasons discussed..."	piedmont	Mar 2012	#171
shooting an unarmed man who is unlawfully on your back porch is not justified Self defense.	TNLib	Mar 2012	#175
They don't care because it fits their narrow agenda. n/t	ellisonz	Mar 2012	#182
I care much more about people being beaten, raped, killed in their own homes by invaders	piedmont	Mar 2012	#189
And none of these laws have anything to do with that...	ellisonz	Mar 2012	#198
an opinion piece written by	gejohnston	Mar 2012	#216
What are you talking about?	ellisonz	Mar 2012	#236
"Unarmed" has nothing to do with it.	piedmont	Mar 2012	#188
The homeowner has no way to know the invader is unarmed or that he's alone.	AlbertCat	Mar 2012	#225
You're making the point for the other side	TeamsterDem	Mar 2012	#227
Stand Your Ground = Open season on anybody that doesn't look like you..	workinclasszero	Mar 2012	#60
That castle law in Wiscconsin is really scary as well	TNLib	Mar 2012	#61
What are 2nd amendment rights?	Zanzoobar	Mar 2012	#62
Something to do with well-regulated militias	Doctor_J	Mar 2012	#70
K/R	Jack Rabbit	Mar 2012	#63
Sure seems like it. They have had shootings like this all over the place, wherever they have those	Major Hogwash	Mar 2012	#65
Not for over 200 years.	RUMMYisFROSTED	Mar 2012	#68
I'll say it with you	varelse	Mar 2012	#73
What would Jesus NOT do?	James48	Mar 2012	#76
A gun. A rope. What's the difference? It's the hate and fear we have to stop. n/t	jtuck004	Mar 2012	#78
That is patently false.	Lasher	Mar 2012	#79
SYG Does Not Mean No Investigation	Nanjing03	Mar 2012	#210
time to do to the NRA	Estevan	Mar 2012	#82
going to have a hard time with that	belcffub	Mar 2012	#99
A licence to hunt BROWN people.	6000eliot	Mar 2012	#83
2nd Amendment is ...	Joseph8th	Mar 2012	#85
Yep. Rec. n/t.	apocalypsehow	Mar 2012	#90
Thank you LynneSin.	Chorophyll	Mar 2012	#91
What really makes me mad is	Pakid	Mar 2012	#92
Yup.	aquart	Mar 2012	#93
You're drinking from the "gun nuts just want an excuse to kill and get away with it" trough.	krispos42	Mar 2012	#94
That Trough Gets Topped Off Every Day By The DU Gun Control/RKBA Forum.	Paladin	Mar 2012	#152
Jesus.	krispos42	Mar 2012	#205
Ask Jesus For A More Compelling Response...... (n/t)	Paladin	Mar 2012	#223
The ignorance displayed by this post and the number of recs it has gotten...	eqfan592	Mar 2012	#95
You don't think I understand guns?	LynneSin	Mar 2012	#115
Why is it you aren't aware of the law?	AtheistCrusader	Mar 2012	#117
You've never walked a mile in Trayvon's shoes.	Major Hogwash	Mar 2012	#119
You have literally no idea who I am or where I've been	eqfan592	Mar 2012	#137
Sure I do. And your nondenial denial is proof that I am right.	Major Hogwash	Mar 2012	#176
Yeah? Well, just because of that comment, I gave another rec.	2ndAmForComputers	Mar 2012	#191
K&R....n/t	unkachuck	Mar 2012	#96
I'm with you LynneSin	Herlong	Mar 2012	#102
Correct.	WilliamPitt	Mar 2012	#103
Selling guns is certainly selling a fantasy.	applegrove	Mar 2012	#105
If one is a knee-jerk judgmental idiot, this is true.	flvegan	Mar 2012	#107
Couldn't agree more. (nt)	eqfan592	Mar 2012	#138
A) "Gun nuts" is an offensive caricature.	Timbuk3	Mar 2012	#110
Read post #7-	digonswine	Mar 2012	#126
Yeah, sorry, but that doesn't work. Nice try tho. (nt)	eqfan592	Mar 2012	#139
You can't be serious????	COLGATE4	Mar 2012	#184
So, if I bash "religious fundamentalists"...	2ndAmForComputers	Mar 2012	#185
K&R. And I'm going to take it one step further..	K Gardner	Mar 2012	#116
+a million	graham4anything	Mar 2012	#125
Probably watch...	beevul	Mar 2012	#233
Which is why the NRA pushes them and law enforcement doesn't.	polichick	Mar 2012	#127
It seems the Confederacy	The Wizard	Mar 2012	#128
The South use to have the strictest gun control laws in America	hack89	Mar 2012	#144
Jim Crow = Gun Control	Nanjing03	Mar 2012	#190
not true	gejohnston	Mar 2012	#217
indeed... it's about creating a larger demographic for gun sales	fascisthunter	Mar 2012	#146
It also encourages people to kill rather than mame.	DCBob	Mar 2012	#149
"It's Past Time to Protect Children Not Guns"	bread_and_roses	Mar 2012	#150
I agree 100%	liberal N proud	Mar 2012	#155
The law is absolute bullshit.	AngryOldDem	Mar 2012	#157
The SYG Laws Are Essential	Nanjing03	Mar 2012	#159
You're missing the procedural part of the Florida SYG	COLGATE4	Mar 2012	#187
The State Dropped the Ball -- They Can Pick It Up	Nanjing03	Mar 2012	#202
I don't disagree with your conclusions, particularly	COLGATE4	Mar 2012	#240
Wow, how could America cope all this time without it?	2ndAmForComputers	Mar 2012	#192
26+ States Have SYG	Nanjing03	Mar 2012	#214
No they don't.	Major Hogwash	Mar 2012	#245
i agree!!! GET RID OF ASSAULT WEAPONS!!	trueblue2007	Mar 2012	#164
I agree. The mere fact someone is attracted to something marketed as an "assault" weapon is enough	Hoyt	Mar 2012	#169
wild wild west	marshall gaines	Mar 2012	#167
I agree, everyone could have a gun	treestar	Mar 2012	#172
Opponents Of Florida’s 2005 ‘Stand Your Ground’ Law Predicted ‘Racially Motivated Killings’	ProSense	Mar 2012	#178
Yes and human hunters are a dime a dozen.	lonestarnot	Mar 2012	#195
"Guns don't kill people, People do". Yep - insane people who are allowed to have guns kill people.	jillan	Mar 2012	#199
I agree with Micheal Moore	felix_numinous	Mar 2012	#200
Like I said in the Gungeon earlier this week - The Backlash is Here	jpak	Mar 2012	#228
The admins have the ability to block you guys from posting in the GD forum.	Major Hogwash	Mar 2012	#239
They can block "you guys" too	jpak	Mar 2012	#241
You're moving the goal posts now.	Major Hogwash	Mar 2012	#242
Yes - "you guys" are so special	jpak	Mar 2012	#243
The goal post movers are here.	Major Hogwash	Mar 2012	#244
Remember Yoshihiro Hattori?	noiretextatique	Mar 2012	#231
Agreed.	HopeHoops	Mar 2012	#250

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