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In the discussion thread: Birthers want proof that Mitt Romney was born in America! [View all]

Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:41 PM

Tx4obama (29,015 posts)

37. I think you are missing the point.

Mitt's 'FATHER' was born in Mexico.

Obama's 'father' was born in Kenya and not a US citizen. This what the birthers are filing ballot challenges on President Obama on - they are saying that Obama is not illegible to run for president because they believe that he is not a 'natural born citizen' due to his father being born in Kenya and not being a US citizen.

So, this has nothing really to do with Mitt's grandfather - just Mitt's 'father'.

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123 replies	Author	Time	Post
Birthers want proof that Mitt Romney was born in America! [View all]	Better Believe It	Mar 2012	OP
Mind blowing. My mind is officially blown. Wow.	freshwest	Mar 2012	#1
Mind Blowing that the OP isn't about the President	snooper2	Mar 2012	#7
Well, there is that, too. LOL.	freshwest	Mar 2012	#13
I could seriously take this comment the wrong way.	xtraxritical	Mar 2012	#25
Okay then, here's what birthers believe, all their talking points. This is proof!	freshwest	Mar 2012	#54
Maybe Mittens can run for President of Mexico	SamG	Mar 2012	#2
The president, the only thing Birthers want made in America	Johonny	Mar 2012	#3
Good. Keep the little monkeys busy running around in circles.	Ship of Fools	Mar 2012	#4
Can you imagine how hard it must be to survive with that type of paranoia?	appleannie1	Mar 2012	#5
Get Oily Taint on this, quick!!	LeftinOH	Mar 2012	#6
Snort	freshwest	Mar 2012	#9
...	trusty elf	Mar 2012	#32
If nothing else, it will have the effect of exposing Rmoney's odd family history.	Old and In the Way	Mar 2012	#8
Everything about Romney's life is far removed from normal Americans.	mwb970	Mar 2012	#58
I think its about time to get rid of this rule alltogether, rather than suspect anyone and everyone	LisaL	Mar 2012	#10
I don't think it's a silly rule. What's silly are people too stupid or stubborn	kestrel91316	Mar 2012	#18
Get rid of the that rule and you end up with Ahnold as Pres.	dixiegrrrrl	Mar 2012	#19
So you think some citizens should be more equal than others?	harmonicon	Mar 2012	#35
a lot of history was behind the writing of the Constitution	dixiegrrrrl	Mar 2012	#36
So...	harmonicon	Mar 2012	#39
It is a good rule. Actually 3 classes of citizens	unc70	Mar 2012	#82
Well, you're wrong about what "natural born" means, for starters.	harmonicon	Mar 2012	#84
Citizen "at birth" not same as "natural born" / "by birth"	unc70	Mar 2012	#85
It seems from those cases that there is some contradictory information.	harmonicon	Mar 2012	#86
Why I think natural born clause is good	unc70	Mar 2012	#97
I do, in a part, understand your point...	harmonicon	Mar 2012	#104
Would you eliminate natural born clause altogether?	unc70	Mar 2012	#107
I absolutely think the clause should be eliminated.	harmonicon	Mar 2012	#121
Constitution is funny about right to vote	unc70	Mar 2012	#123
I was born in India and my dad was	frogmarch	Mar 2012	#110
Foreign born citizen at birth, not necessarily natural born	unc70	Mar 2012	#111
I was born an American citizen. I didn't have to be	frogmarch	Mar 2012	#112
You are citizen under uniform rules for naturalization	unc70	Mar 2012	#113
I disagree with your	frogmarch	Mar 2012	#114
Wiki is not adequately sourced	unc70	Mar 2012	#117
Anyone who wishes to may go ahead and	frogmarch	Mar 2012	#118
No question of citizenship.	unc70	Mar 2012	#120
Did you or parents take actions to ensure citizenship?	unc70	Mar 2012	#116
Your adopted sister's case was more complicated	unc70	Mar 2012	#119
I remembered when they discussed ahnold as president	newspeak	Mar 2012	#70
Do you suffer from such suspicions?	jberryhill	Mar 2012	#26
It's a GREAT rule--I say keep it.	MADem	Mar 2012	#51
His great grandfather isn't running for president	SemperEadem	Mar 2012	#11
I think you are missing the point.	Tx4obama	Mar 2012	#37
Wait until Rubio runs for President (or gets picked for VP)	Ter	Mar 2012	#44
Woohoo!	freshwest	Mar 2012	#62
And the Constitution refers to the birthplace of the person running for office, not their parents.	freshwest	Mar 2012	#61
still, Mitt's father isn't running for anything this election cycle	SemperEadem	Mar 2012	#77
nah, they're still inconsistent	fishwax	Mar 2012	#12
The rest running in recent years all had relatives here for centuries	Ter	Mar 2012	#45
Obama also has family here going back generations. Santorum's father, like Obama's, was born abroad.	fishwax	Mar 2012	#47
I meant both parents	Ter	Mar 2012	#64
McCain is not a natural born citizen	unc70	Mar 2012	#81
well, I don't agree that being a natural born citizen requires being born IN the United States	fishwax	Mar 2012	#89
Those are citizens at birth, not by birth	unc70	Mar 2012	#90
the constitution in 1787 simply said "natural born citizen," and didn't distinguish between	fishwax	Mar 2012	#92
Constitution has no concept of jus sanguinis citizen	unc70	Mar 2012	#93
the Natural Born Citizen clause doesn't mention jus soli, either	fishwax	Mar 2012	#95
Born in USA vs naturalized	unc70	Mar 2012	#96
natural born isn't another name for jus soli	fishwax	Mar 2012	#98
The final part of that report is weak	unc70	Mar 2012	#99
Minority of framers wanted jus sanguinis, outvoted	unc70	Mar 2012	#100
jus sanguinis was part of established English law at the time	fishwax	Mar 2012	#101
jus sanguinis requires statutes, legislative not Constitutional grant	unc70	Mar 2012	#103
none of that provides any evidence whatsoever that natural born means only jus soli	fishwax	Mar 2012	#105
How do you account for Bellei?	unc70	Mar 2012	#106
Rogers v Bellei doesn't address the term natural born citizen	fishwax	Mar 2012	#109
See also post #107 and previous. N/T	unc70	Mar 2012	#108
Can you imagine if each of those wives had a couple of Cadillacs?	JBoy	Mar 2012	#14
Or the horse drawn equivalent of Caddys back in the 1800's	Better Believe It	Mar 2012	#21
It would go a long way toward reviving the auto industry!	LongTomH	Mar 2012	#22
Kenyans and Mormons are all the same to them...	bluedigger	Mar 2012	#15
That's it completely	etherealtruth	Mar 2012	#60
youhave got to be kidding me	cindyperry2010	Mar 2012	#16
Guilty of schadenfreude.... (nt)	ehrnst	Mar 2012	#17
Just hit me. Maybe they'll want mandatory DNA testing next...	freshwest	Mar 2012	#20
Cheech and Chong - "Born In East L.A."	Better Believe It	Mar 2012	#23
Poor Ricky Santorum still ignored....	whistler162	Mar 2012	#24
Some of them want to know about that too	jberryhill	Mar 2012	#27
We have four presidents whose parents weren't born in the U.S.	Rozlee	Mar 2012	#28
Oh please oh please oh please	SmileyRose	Mar 2012	#52
Anyone still think being Mormon doesn't matter for a GOP candidate.	obxhead	Mar 2012	#29
Once again, they prove that they haven't got a clue!	BattyDem	Mar 2012	#30
They don't believe Obama was born in the USA. They believe he was born in Kenya.	juajen	Mar 2012	#53
It's even less relevant in Romney's case	RZM	Mar 2012	#55
But birthers don't buy that "argument" at all ... even if it is factual.	BattyDem	Mar 2012	#66
John McCain was born on a naval base. I believe that's considered American soil. n/t	RZM	Mar 2012	#69
I know. I'm not questioning his citizenship.	BattyDem	Mar 2012	#71
Well, they are birthers	RZM	Mar 2012	#74
LOL ... that's true!	BattyDem	Mar 2012	#78
you don't have to be born in the US to be "natural born citizen"	gejohnston	Mar 2012	#75
That's the situation the Romneys were in	RZM	Mar 2012	#76
That is probably not true regarding natural born	unc70	Mar 2012	#83
It was, and it is.	Doc Holliday	Mar 2012	#88
The Canal Zone was covered by specific law after McCain's birth	unc70	Mar 2012	#91
Born?	bleever	Mar 2012	#31
Maquiladora Mitt!	Enrique	Mar 2012	#38
The Idiocy of Some People	Liberalynn	Mar 2012	#33
To be more precise .... the idiocy of right-wingnut birthers!	Better Believe It	Mar 2012	#34
Definitely	Liberalynn	Mar 2012	#80
That whole thing about Romney's Great-grandfather is going to be fun during the campaign!!	progressoid	Mar 2012	#40
The Rethuglicans teabag monster has turned against them!	Crowman1979	Mar 2012	#41
The funniest thing about this is that Michigan	Motown_Johnny	Mar 2012	#42
I'd be much more interested in seeing his tax returns for the past decade or so	NICO9000	Mar 2012	#43
Mitt-Bone	Better Believe It	Mar 2012	#46
thats gonna be a pain when Rubio runs as Mitts VP	PatrynXX	Mar 2012	#48
Which of course	PatrynXX	Mar 2012	#49
Well, his deddy was called "Chihuahua George" and not because he was small or yippy.	MADem	Mar 2012	#50
In the 1950's	fightforfreedom123	Mar 2012	#56
What's funny is that Ike didn't meet one of the three requirements	underpants	Mar 2012	#63
They just won't die, will they n/t	RZM	Mar 2012	#57
Arizona is swarming with them.	lonestarnot	Mar 2012	#67
Will they accept a legal copy, or do they need to see film of Mama Romney popping him out?	tanyev	Mar 2012	#59
Stop. Think. Isn't Romney a 2 faced idiot in a uniquely American way?	Bucky	Mar 2012	#65
Well drop me with a feather,	nadinbrzezinski	Mar 2012	#68
I'd Settle for Proof that He Was Born	AndyTiedye	Mar 2012	#72
On Earth!	Redneck Democrat	Mar 2012	#102
I knew that Mitt Romney was a Kenyan.	kwassa	Mar 2012	#73
I think they're trying to make themselves look evenhanded.	caseymoz	Mar 2012	#79
did they ever go after grampy mccane for being born in Panama?	Javaman	Mar 2012	#87
Yes, went after McCain. See above	unc70	Mar 2012	#94
How come they never hounded McCain on this?	Cleita	Mar 2012	#115
yes, but unlike the President, the media isn't 24/7 promoting this	spanone	Mar 2012	#122

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