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In the discussion thread: Stand Your Ground laws have Nothing to do with 2nd Amendment rights. [View all]

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Fri Mar 23, 2012, 10:49 AM

LynneSin (89,793 posts)

11. Maybe for half the country - there's alot of people cheering on George Zimmerman

and hope that he can get away with what he has done.

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Stand Your Ground laws have Nothing to do with 2nd Amendment rights. [View all]	Warren Stupidity	Mar 2012	OP
You mean there's something we can agree on?	lunatica	Mar 2012	#1
Again, SYG is not a gun right's issue at all.	Warren Stupidity	Mar 2012	#2
Thanks	lunatica	Mar 2012	#5
About half the states do not have a duty to retreat requirement	ProgressiveProfessor	Mar 2012	#6
ALEC and the NRA are hard at work on those states.	Warren Stupidity	Mar 2012	#12
I think you have your polarity reversed	ProgressiveProfessor	Mar 2012	#21
Exactly	smaug	Mar 2012	#9
Actually there are already firearms enhancement penalties in many jurisdictions	ProgressiveProfessor	Mar 2012	#22
Except Loughner was not a failure of the gun sales process	ProgressiveProfessor	Mar 2012	#25
A fatal failure which needs to be fixed for future gun sales, not	lunatica	Mar 2012	#28
System is no better than the data it has...	ProgressiveProfessor	Mar 2012	#29
So you think it can't be fixed?	lunatica	Mar 2012	#30
If you were a danger to yourself and others, and nobody ever went before a judge..	X_Digger	Mar 2012	#31
There needs to be clear and universal reporting standards	ProgressiveProfessor	Mar 2012	#32
K&R X 1000. The most intelligent posting yet on SYG. nt	COLGATE4	Mar 2012	#3
Watch and see how these SYG laws become very unpopular.	TheCowsCameHome	Mar 2012	#4
Maybe for half the country - there's alot of people cheering on George Zimmerman	LynneSin	Mar 2012	#11
"Hope he can get away with" it?	gratuitous	Mar 2012	#15
Zimmerman has not walked...and I serious doubt he will.	ProgressiveProfessor	Mar 2012	#24
I'll reserve judgment	gratuitous	Mar 2012	#26
Have you read the excerpted police reports on the city website?	ProgressiveProfessor	Mar 2012	#27
So you support duty to retreat in all cases?	ProgressiveProfessor	Mar 2012	#7
No I was fine with castle defense.	Warren Stupidity	Mar 2012	#14
No one has been enabled...Zimmerman has not walked	ProgressiveProfessor	Mar 2012	#23
what do you think all the outrage is about? He walked, he was not arrested.	got root	Mar 2012	#33
Its going to a Grand Jury, its no where near over.	ProgressiveProfessor	Mar 2012	#35
the point, professor, is that he walked away from a murder scene due to a fucked up law	got root	Mar 2012	#36
Not sure you have a prima facie case for that conclusion	ProgressiveProfessor	Mar 2012	#37
are you kidding? he was NOT arrested. nor was the murder weapon, nor scene secured for investigation	got root	Mar 2012	#41
Published police reports disagree with some of what you stated	ProgressiveProfessor	Mar 2012	#42
he was NOT arrested, nor was his gun taken as evidence, nor a crime scene established	got root	Mar 2012	#43
Umm, you can see the crime scene tape in the Orlando news footage. n/t	X_Digger	Mar 2012	#45
Police report disagrees with you	ProgressiveProfessor	Mar 2012	#46
he was not arrested, nor was his gun or permit taken away, nor was there a homicide investigation	got root	Mar 2012	#48
Assertion without reference...	ProgressiveProfessor	Mar 2012	#49
Fortunately, our Governor in Minnesota	MineralMan	Mar 2012	#8
Personally the SYG laws violate the 14th Amendment	LynneSin	Mar 2012	#10
Your argument is legally specious...	ProgressiveProfessor	Mar 2012	#19
I think the SYG laws needed to be better defined and the ambiguity removed from them.	hack89	Mar 2012	#13
No there is no clear need.	Warren Stupidity	Mar 2012	#16
Duty to retreat is not always a good thing...	ProgressiveProfessor	Mar 2012	#20
I seriously doubt Zimmerman and others would read the fine print	TheCowsCameHome	Mar 2012	#17
There have to be laws defining self defense.	hack89	Mar 2012	#18
In that case would any law have stopped him?	ProgressiveProfessor	Mar 2012	#38
everyone already had a right to self-defense, the SYG laws are the product of the gun lobby	got root	Mar 2012	#34
Do you include Castle Doctrine, which has SYG aspects to it as well...	ProgressiveProfessor	Mar 2012	#39
exactly, they already have laws on the books for defending yourself, especially on your own property	got root	Mar 2012	#40
You do realize that about half the states have some form of no duty to retreat?	ProgressiveProfessor	Mar 2012	#44
the new laws introduced by the gun lobby in the past decade need to go.	got root	Mar 2012	#47
I'll take that as "I want to rant and can't be bothered with facts, details, or specifics"	ProgressiveProfessor	Mar 2012	#50

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