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ehrnst

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4. There have been times when I wanted him to play hardball - and not bend over backwards for Boehner.
Thu Mar 22, 2012, 08:55 AM
Mar 2012

I've often felt that he was not willing to do the twisting of balls that is a neccessary part of being a president dealing with a hostile congress.

He always seemed to go to the negotiating table with what he thought Boehner would want. I wanted him to START with single payer, medicare for all, and negotiate back from there.

A white president could do that without being considered a threat to the very existence of the nation, but not a black president - and that's what I didn't really take into consideration.

+ 1,000,000 ! Surya Gayatri Mar 2012 #1
As far as your comment about President Obama, I don't see it that way. madaboutharry Mar 2012 #2
I think it is a bit of both. nevergiveup Mar 2012 #3
There have been times when I wanted him to play hardball - and not bend over backwards for Boehner. ehrnst Mar 2012 #4
Again, ehrnst, I couldn't agree more... Surya Gayatri Mar 2012 #17
Ooooh, Nooooo you have it all wrong A wise Man Mar 2012 #33
It's less a question of some imagined "TALK" that Surya Gayatri Mar 2012 #5
Don't underestimate white mothers - my sister had this talk with her 3 black daughters. Because it jwirr Mar 2012 #49
Certainly not underestimating the Surya Gayatri Mar 2012 #59
You cant have a reasonable and intellectually honest debate rhett o rick Mar 2012 #6
I think it's some of both frazzled Mar 2012 #9
I DO see him not wanting to perpetuate the "angry black man" perception in his uponit7771 Mar 2012 #12
I would imagine it is in the back of his mind - TBF Mar 2012 #20
I prefer this man's approach to Barack's. It was more genuine, honest, and dignified. leveymg Mar 2012 #7
This man could never have been elected Surya Gayatri Mar 2012 #21
Absolutely, not even in Harlem, then. That points something out about the US political process leveymg Mar 2012 #40
IMO Mr Dixon Mar 2012 #62
The "liberal" New York media (when it was still really NY based and liberal) demonized the Muslims leveymg Mar 2012 #65
I've been doing a lot of studying on the Civil Rights Movement lately boxman15 Mar 2012 #74
Agree. Without those pushing for radical change, there is no reason to accomodate reform. leveymg Mar 2012 #75
Well every parent gives their kids 'the talk' at some point lunatica Mar 2012 #8
A coworker dealt with DWB on the way home from the airport LynneSin Mar 2012 #10
By law, a person has to give consent for their car to be searched unless they have a warrant. FourScore Mar 2012 #35
This was about 10 years ago and the MD state police were investigated LynneSin Mar 2012 #39
THOUSAND TIMES marshall gaines Mar 2012 #66
When it happens to you in the dead of the night KeepItReal Mar 2012 #72
Unfortunately, that is the reality. You nailed it. n/t FourScore Mar 2012 #76
SMH Mr Dixon Mar 2012 #64
lol uponit7771 Mar 2012 #11
What's funny? DURHAM D Mar 2012 #13
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Enjoy your stay ecstatic Mar 2012 #23
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If you believe there was no trauma in Kenya under the British, you need to go back to school leveymg Mar 2012 #43
You would think a right wing troll would know by now DFW Mar 2012 #45
Yeah, you're right! FourScore Mar 2012 #28
Wow, does he have zebra stripes? Are his Surya Gayatri Mar 2012 #31
What's funny? (nt) ehrnst Mar 2012 #15
What's funny? n/t FourScore Mar 2012 #22
My white husband was stopped in a "well to do" neighborhood HockeyMom Mar 2012 #14
That kind of incident is not limited to the USA DFW Mar 2012 #44
obsfucation marshall gaines Mar 2012 #67
K & R! lonestarnot Mar 2012 #16
It's acceptable to use "crackers" handy hannah Mar 2012 #19
Are you at the library again? nt DURHAM D Mar 2012 #26
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #27
I will say goodbye now. DURHAM D Mar 2012 #30
I was just on a jury voting to hide that post. Hope the other five agreed. yardwork Mar 2012 #34
She has now been PPRed. DURHAM D Mar 2012 #37
I'm sure freepers would find it hilarious. They live in opposite world. yardwork Mar 2012 #41
I miss the tombstones. TahitiNut Mar 2012 #54
The tombstones were a nice a touch. n/t FourScore Mar 2012 #68
Mr. President is one of the greatest Presidents, possibly 2nd or 3rd in line despite rich crackers. lonestarnot Mar 2012 #32
Yes. ehrnst Mar 2012 #46
I was always puzzled by people who pressed Obama to "get angry" . . . janet118 Mar 2012 #25
While I appreciate you are giving the President the benefit of the doubt, this post bothers me. Skinner Mar 2012 #29
I agree 100% nt ecstatic Mar 2012 #42
I agree with both the original post and your post... Frustratedlady Mar 2012 #47
That's why I wrote "perceived Kowtowing." (nt) ehrnst Mar 2012 #48
You have articulated this very well, Skinner. FourScore Mar 2012 #51
I agree Blue_Roses Mar 2012 #53
I see it exactly the same way. TahitiNut Mar 2012 #55
I agree with you 100%. . . daligirl519 Mar 2012 #56
I completely agree with you Skinner and I am African American goclark Mar 2012 #57
Finally a post with a clue aside from the LOL one which I had to agree with. n/t vaberella Mar 2012 #61
Absolutely right. NYC Liberal Mar 2012 #73
Great post. However, I don't think anyone had "The Talk" with Barack. Tatiana Mar 2012 #36
I also stated that these experiences, along with the symbolic "talk" have influenced him.(nt) ehrnst Mar 2012 #52
if that were true, than we should have not elected him, because he's black Enrique Mar 2012 #38
I don't see why that means we should not vote for him. ehrnst Mar 2012 #50
IMO Mr Dixon Mar 2012 #58
In all honesty I don't think Obama ever got the "talk." I know Black parents do this. vaberella Mar 2012 #60
I know white parents that give the talk to their brown adopted sons. ehrnst Mar 2012 #70
As I stated I don't know if White parents do. vaberella Mar 2012 #71
Chris Rock - How not to get your ass kicked by the police! Swede Mar 2012 #63
That was great. I love Chris Rock! FourScore Mar 2012 #69
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