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zeemike

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Fri Feb 21, 2014, 08:15 PM

Feb 2014

And I agree.
Except for the part of electing CEOs as president...I think they will draw their candidates from the entertainment industry to entertain us while they use their power from behind the curtain.

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Here's Why Obama Can't Get Democrats To Back His Trade Deal - HuffPo [View all] WillyT Feb 2014 OP

Sadly it is going to take a Democratic uprising to keep a Democratic President from doing..... yourout Feb 2014 #1

We'll see which corporation he ends up being cozy with after he is out of office. L0oniX Feb 2014 #4

No Fast Track. n/t PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #2

1st the term is: "liberal coalition" ...then later it's: "The base of the Democratic Party" ... L0oniX Feb 2014 #3

Agree...Which is it? KoKo Feb 2014 #6

The definition of our base is important. pampango Feb 2014 #10

It's not just "Dems," but the American People. And here's why - we don't believe the lies anymore! reformist2 Feb 2014 #5

TPP is another shitty deal for US workers unless you want $0.30/Hr pragmatic_dem Feb 2014 #7

Indeed. DeadLetterOffice Feb 2014 #8

Welcome to DU. zeemike Feb 2014 #9

This is absolutely mind-boggling. DeSwiss Feb 2014 #11

We thought the same thing upon reading that. n/t BelgianMadCow Feb 2014 #12

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Feb 2014 #13

INDEED! KoKo Feb 2014 #14

* L0oniX Feb 2014 #19

Yep... WillyT Feb 2014 #20

Yessir Plucketeer Feb 2014 #24

Not strange at all: bvar22 Feb 2014 #35

...Because it means fewer jobs and lower pay and everyone knows it. grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #15

HuffPo? Seriously? mimi85 Feb 2014 #16

LOL !!! - Blame The Messenger, Ignore The Message... Par For The Course... WillyT Feb 2014 #18

and you could say the same thing about The Atlantic cali Feb 2014 #21

psst... WillyT Feb 2014 #22

but there is something they can, and do, right to our faces reddread Feb 2014 #52

Did you read the article or watch the video? JDPriestly Feb 2014 #27

Lame. bvar22 Feb 2014 #36

recommend frwrfpos Feb 2014 #17

K & R AzDar Feb 2014 #23

When Change Means Race To The Bottom. jsr Feb 2014 #25

K&R! Phlem Feb 2014 #26

Another K&R. Let's keep chipping away at this turkey of a deal Populist_Prole Feb 2014 #28

One sure indication that the TPP is not in our best interest. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #29

republican politicians are for it, not republicans. n/t pampango Feb 2014 #30

Is that supposed to be a good thing? What is the positive agenda of that set? TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #67

K&R - I'm glad they're standing firm - this trade deal stinks. n/t myrna minx Feb 2014 #31

kick woo me with science Feb 2014 #32

So we don't have to worry about TPP Progressive dog Feb 2014 #33

Interesting post. "for those opposing TPP", are you intimating that you dont rhett o rick Feb 2014 #34

I am intimating that the TPP opposition Progressive dog Feb 2014 #37

To say that you are neutral because you dont know the absolute exact words is disingenuous rhett o rick Feb 2014 #41

So you voted Democratic in spite of their platform, Progressive dog Feb 2014 #46

I want to protect American jobs. If that's a protectionist, then call me that. But dont call rhett o rick Feb 2014 #47

And you've done a superlative job. Progressive dog Feb 2014 #49

And exactly how is that working for you? It certainly is making the corporations wealthy. rhett o rick Feb 2014 #51

We aren't allowed to know what is in it, the onus is on those who keep it from being seen. TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #42

Why would you want to know what is in something Progressive dog Feb 2014 #43

Why would I want to know what my representatives in government are signing me up for? rhett o rick Feb 2014 #50

Yes I am serious, the government does not Progressive dog Feb 2014 #53

Fair trade and free trades are oxymorons. Pick one and discuss. TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #56

No they aren't Progressive dog Feb 2014 #57

If it is free then how do you guarantee the fair? TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #58

Where in the platform does it Progressive dog Feb 2014 #59

Okay, let's go with this a bit. How are free trade and fair trade respectively defined? TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #60

We already have dictionaries Progressive dog Feb 2014 #64

Yes when one precludes or greatly limits the possibility of the other. TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #68

Free and fair trade is in the Democratic 2012 platform but Progressive dog Feb 2014 #69

Gee why would I want to know? SomethingFishy Feb 2014 #62

TPP is about trade, Progressive dog Feb 2014 #63

If you think this is about "trade" then you will never get it. SomethingFishy Feb 2014 #65

If there is an agreement, it won't be secret. Progressive dog Feb 2014 #66

Rule no. 1 when someone puts the word "Progressive" in their handle brentspeak Feb 2014 #72

No, rule number 1 is that when the Progressive dog Mar 2014 #74

"I have heard the argument that transparency would undermine" MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #78

The negotiaitions are not the agreement, Progressive dog Mar 2014 #80

So Elizabeth Warren is full of crap? MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #81

What kind of question is that? Progressive dog Mar 2014 #82

You're citing middle-school social studies MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #83

I didn't cite any social studies, Progressive dog Mar 2014 #84

See your post #80. MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #85

Do you know what cite means? nt Progressive dog Mar 2014 #86

Yeah, probably not the ideal word. MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #87

You could try if you like. Progressive dog Mar 2014 #88

Which is why I don't think elected Dems are against this on the (de)merits MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #89

The Senators and Representatives are not in the dark, Progressive dog Mar 2014 #90

Perhaps you can inform us of MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #91

What does that have to do with whether Progressive dog Mar 2014 #92

Oh it's Good Cop/Bad Cop nonsense. When TPP is passed, it will be quick! nt Romulox Feb 2014 #38

You think it'll take about the same time as KORUS, Progressive dog Feb 2014 #44

I doubt 90% of this board even knows free trade with S. Korea passed under this admin. Romulox Feb 2014 #55

Because it offends Democratic principles and tenets? J/S. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #39

Just over a year ago, the Democratic Platform Progressive dog Feb 2014 #40

so? are you suggesting that that obviates the facts that we know about the TPP? cali Feb 2014 #45

You only know the positions that were being negotiated from. Progressive dog Feb 2014 #48

Maybe if you say "platform" a few more times Union Scribe Mar 2014 #76

Well when I support a party, Progressive dog Mar 2014 #77

What if there's no choice? Armstead Mar 2014 #95

I have a choice, Progressive dog Mar 2014 #96

Nice try, but 2/3 of House Democrats voted against Korus brentspeak Feb 2014 #71

So what? Progressive dog Mar 2014 #73

It appears that our president supports off-shoring of US jobs. MrsKirkley Feb 2014 #54

Because it's a sellout to corporate interests? alarimer Feb 2014 #61

''The only support comes from the Chamber of Commerce, multinational corporations, big business...'' Octafish Feb 2014 #70

"only Democrats that identify as “liberal” strongly favor 'fast-track". 85% of republicans oppose it pampango Mar 2014 #79

yeah, that the base is wrong yet again and has to be further marginalized MisterP Mar 2014 #94

du rec. xchrom Mar 2014 #75

good paying northern states industrial union jobs moved to the southern states.... madrchsod Mar 2014 #93