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Mon Dec 19, 2011, 10:52 PM

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7. 10/4 and noted. n/t

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So is every complaint about Obama wrong? Or some people just don't like to hear them? [View all]	Logical	Dec 2011	OP
The "Obama is for Wall St" is pure bullshit and based only on guilt by association	banned from Kos	Dec 2011	#1
+1...nt	SidDithers	Dec 2011	#3
He chose those associates.	Union Scribe	Dec 2011	#35
You ASSUME you know completely and totally EXACTLY why he chose as he did. You don't.	patrice	Dec 2011	#49
You reply to the wrong post?	Union Scribe	Dec 2011	#63
x2	AnotherMcIntosh	Dec 2011	#146
x3 This is getting mighty strange. nt	tblue	Dec 2011	#204
Not WHY he chose them, but THAT he chose them.	Orsino	Dec 2011	#149
Wait. Are people saying Obama didn't choose his advisors?	tblue	Dec 2011	#203
I love ya, man! nt	Vanje	Dec 2011	#241
Oh, I don't doubt that there were many favors owed...	Orsino	Dec 2011	#255
I get what you're saying.	tblue	Dec 2011	#256
Yeah. I'll give him this much credit...	Orsino	Dec 2011	#258
do you know why he chose them?	frylock	Dec 2011	#190
Sure he chose them - but not as a concession to Wall St	banned from Kos	Dec 2011	#51
They weren't just chosen for the Treasury	Union Scribe	Dec 2011	#66
Competence? Weren't a couple of them close to the blame for the mess we're in?	GOTV	Dec 2011	#103
...AND Senator Obama was one of those who promised that ...	bvar22	Dec 2011	#135
Well, if you're gonna be picky!	tblue	Dec 2011	#208
It's BEYOND irritating when someone makes claims like	tpsbmam	Dec 2011	#232
Except that's not all.	FedUp_Queer	Dec 2011	#68
+1	Rex	Dec 2011	#78
None of those people were responsible for the housing bubble.	banned from Kos	Dec 2011	#113
The people appointed to government were ideological kin to those in the private sector that caused	DireStrike	Dec 2011	#123
You have a point there regarding Summers. He is a free market liberal by nature.	banned from Kos	Dec 2011	#127
Wrong again.	FedUp_Queer	Dec 2011	#131
That had nothing to do with the housing bubble or mortgage crisis.	banned from Kos	Dec 2011	#136
Ummm...no.	FedUp_Queer	Dec 2011	#144
AIG repaid the "claims" as I said -- you are not careful with words (the goldman money that really	banned from Kos	Dec 2011	#155
Yes...	FedUp_Queer	Dec 2011	#189
But the payment on that claim did not rescue Goldman - it rescued the largest insurer in the world	banned from Kos	Dec 2011	#195
You're right. The bailouts were the right thing.	FedUp_Queer	Dec 2011	#216
I don't think you have any idea what you are talking about.	FedUp_Queer	Dec 2011	#129
Absolute nonsense. Gramm-Leach or Glass-Steagall did not regulate mortgages in the LEAST BIT.	banned from Kos	Dec 2011	#133
Wrong again.	FedUp_Queer	Dec 2011	#143
Wrong. We have been securitizing the vast majority of mortgages in the USA for 50 years.	banned from Kos	Dec 2011	#148
I really don't think you can read.	FedUp_Queer	Dec 2011	#188
one must be really ignorant to think G-L-B caused prices to skyrocket and not DEMAND.	banned from Kos	Dec 2011	#221
"I really don't think you can read"	JLinTx	Dec 2011	#231
OMG. Do you not knw the roles Summers and Rubin played in persuading Bill Clinton	PA Democrat	Dec 2011	#154
Wrong - Gramm-Leach had nothing to do with the housing bubble and mortgage crisis.	banned from Kos	Dec 2011	#169
The Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act had EVERYTHING to do with the crisis.	PA Democrat	Dec 2011	#192
nonsense - right wing talk - new thread on this topic up (of mine) -	banned from Kos	Dec 2011	#198
So you start a new thread and mischaracterize what other posters have said.	PA Democrat	Dec 2011	#201
No - the new thread is more germane - Govt bureacrats vs Ayn Rand free markets?	banned from Kos	Dec 2011	#206
No. He just calls something "right wing talking points" and...	FedUp_Queer	Dec 2011	#254
Are you kidding me?	FedUp_Queer	Dec 2011	#253
Amen	JLinTx	Dec 2011	#230
Well said!	ozone_man	Dec 2011	#235
Fucking Salazar!	Vanje	Dec 2011	#243
well said	jkent26943xs	Dec 2011	#77
Yep. THIS is ALL just a BIG coincidence!	bvar22	Dec 2011	#139
Wow!	AnotherMcIntosh	Dec 2011	#147
VERY well said	Wilmer	Dec 2011	#150
His pro-wall street actions seem to render your argument moot.	comipinko	Dec 2011	#140
not bs at all. It's the freakin' truth	Roland99	Dec 2011	#166
Yeah, it's bullshit	vi5	Dec 2011	#180
He should be judged by his actions. He appointed conservatives like Jeff Immelt. He has prosecuted	rhett o rick	Dec 2011	#215
Hey, Obama stated way back when that he should be called out. Damn, there are many things that I	teddy51	Dec 2011	#2
one cannot investigate a previous administration for things one is doing oneself. nt	msongs	Dec 2011	#5
10/4 and noted. n/t	teddy51	Dec 2011	#7
all of which he never once gave the slightest hint he would do while campaigning.	banned from Kos	Dec 2011	#8
Yes. And now it is OWS.	treestar	Dec 2011	#16
OWS supports equal rights for all. No Rick Warren, no McClurkin they are not	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2011	#89
DADT repeal - ending defense of marriage act enforcement by the Justice Dept (N/T)	DWilliamsamh	Dec 2011	#122
for some people, there will never be anything he could do to make up for the mcclurkin\warren thing,	dionysus	Dec 2011	#234
Well that's is their prerogative ... but it seems silly	DWilliamsamh	Dec 2011	#248
i agree.	dionysus	Dec 2011	#249
Once I go to print with it	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#177
yeah, he didn't campaign on it so STFU	paulk	Dec 2011	#119
YES! Look for declarative statements!	bvar22	Dec 2011	#151
From the archives, for some objective examination...	BeHereNow	Dec 2011	#174
Picking on Obama is, like, totally gonna bum-out the pep-rally... so like STFU already... (+/-)	LooseWilly	Dec 2011	#4
I could go into the psychology of it	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#6
Thanks! Interesting.	Logical	Dec 2011	#9
Meanwhile others look at a Rorschach Test and see a Matisse	banned from Kos	Dec 2011	#10
Except this is well known in political science	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#18
yeah - I see that with Alan Grayson fans a lot.	banned from Kos	Dec 2011	#22
WHOOSH	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#27
Is it Bernie then? Who do you merely admire?	banned from Kos	Dec 2011	#31
Again I could recommend a book	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#33
You posed this psychology because you wanted to imply that Obama supporters denied his	banned from Kos	Dec 2011	#43
No, it is a poltical science REALITY	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#46
It is reality but so is false projection.	banned from Kos	Dec 2011	#52
Again I was answering the OP	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#54
OK - good enough.	banned from Kos	Dec 2011	#61
Nadin ate your dinner	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2011	#94
Only if you like logical fallacies - apparently you do.	banned from Kos	Dec 2011	#102
Alas it has nothing to do with who you like	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#145
Nice, way to keep from the obvious	Rex	Dec 2011	#79
In fact, here is a very recent study	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#41
Politicians understand the psychology well	gyroscope	Dec 2011	#21
To a few experts	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#29
And to some people it's about a very needful, but inherently flawed, thing called Knowledge. nt	patrice	Dec 2011	#50
I guess getting it at a poltical science level is my defect	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#55
Yes Dean wrote some good stuff about this mindset within the RW, the neo-libs are similar /nt	Dragonfli	Dec 2011	#222
John Dean collated a lot of academic work into that book	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#224
I love out of control military spending and the specter of indefinite detention. no complaints here	think	Dec 2011	#11
lol	Matariki	Dec 2011	#12
LMAO!!n/t	zeljko67	Dec 2011	#38
That's sure the reason why I volunteered 30 hours a week for 2 months.	tblue	Dec 2011	#212
Many complaints about Obama are correct,just exaggerated.	athenasatanjesus	Dec 2011	#13
Well, I agree some are exaggerated, but even the accurate ones are 100% defended by many. n-t	Logical	Dec 2011	#19
many? or few with several usernames?	Skittles	Dec 2011	#73
All of the above, probably, and criticism is ok with me	bhikkhu	Dec 2011	#14
I hope you recant your positions with regard to the NDAA when found to be incorrect!N/T	zeljko67	Dec 2011	#39
Is every complaint right?	treestar	Dec 2011	#15
Because this is a discussion forum. That is what it is here for! n-t	Logical	Dec 2011	#17
Then that goes both ways.	treestar	Dec 2011	#24
In fact,l the candidate constantly complaining about 'Sanctity' is going to create	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2011	#96
Okay, I'll play.	Tx4obama	Dec 2011	#20
+	spanone	Dec 2011	#23
Oh, believe me, I have seen your list! We all have. Many times!	Logical	Dec 2011	#25
Just remember that there are MANY different LISTS floating around on DU, they're not all the same	Tx4obama	Dec 2011	#37
+++++++++++ Good job. I'm thinking the same things. See below, please.	patrice	Dec 2011	#53
You are cute, Tx4Obama!	tblue	Dec 2011	#213
Why the defensiveness?	CakeGrrl	Dec 2011	#26
You think you already know all.	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2011	#100
Why lie?	The Doctor.	Dec 2011	#106
Except for the FACT that he does not support Gay Marriage.	comipinko	Dec 2011	#138
Has he actively tried to roll back Gay Marriage in Iowa?	emulatorloo	Dec 2011	#167
He has ACTIVELY defined "marriage" . His definition does just that.	comipinko	Dec 2011	#171
The Republicans in Iowa are actively trying to end marriage equality	emulatorloo	Dec 2011	#173
Thing is, I do not believe that he holds that position, yet he continues to voice it.	comipinko	Dec 2011	#175
You may well be right about the political motives	emulatorloo	Dec 2011	#178
Hmmmmf.	lonestarnot	Dec 2011	#28
When election time rolls around, and it is basically that time...	BootinUp	Dec 2011	#30
Its been this way from day one	quakerboy	Dec 2011	#75
It's not limited to criticism of Obama	hootinholler	Dec 2011	#32
In all seriousness I will tell you where they are the same...	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#34
Obama should not be swarmed...on the DU.	applegrove	Dec 2011	#36
Devil's advocate	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#44
I agree that constructive criticism should be allowed. But calling Obama supporters 'Obama	applegrove	Dec 2011	#45
How many supporters are indeed defenders	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#48
Regarding 'real life' please see link below	Tx4obama	Dec 2011	#57
Yeah and... you think that there is not a small time revolt and dissatisfaction?	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#60
If it is a "few," then why are we going round and round	emulatorloo	Dec 2011	#62
Actually, again poli sci or history... I will slighty differ from you in core values	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#65
Yes, that analysis of tensions within the two parties is very accurate	emulatorloo	Dec 2011	#162
While not inside baseball, actually most people do not know it.	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#170
Ha ha, silly season!	emulatorloo	Dec 2011	#193
Ok, then please what term should we use?	hootinholler	Dec 2011	#59
"Defenders" is so passe'. I believe you have now been deemed to be an "apologist".	11 Bravo	Dec 2011	#90
Apologist is so DU2 n/t	hootinholler	Dec 2011	#228
Not every complaint is wrong......	FrenchieCat	Dec 2011	#40
Right on, Frenchie. Thanks for mentioning 2010. That's EXACTLY what happened. I heard plenty of call	patrice	Dec 2011	#56
I would make a polite request	quakerboy	Dec 2011	#76
+1	dawg	Dec 2011	#97
After thinking on this, it is a request I plan to repeat	quakerboy	Dec 2011	#179
I second that request	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2011	#104
Here's one.....	FrenchieCat	Dec 2011	#181
Good post, FrenchieCat. If I could recommend yr post, I would.	emulatorloo	Dec 2011	#194
Fair enough.	quakerboy	Dec 2011	#197
You say...."most likely republican challengers are all 0%"	FrenchieCat	Dec 2011	#205
We agree on one thing	quakerboy	Dec 2011	#257
You are wrong that many have complained since innauguration. It started before then.	styersc	Dec 2011	#105
+100	Myrina	Dec 2011	#112
NAILED IT!	bvar22	Dec 2011	#157
Why	ProSense	Dec 2011	#42
Would it be too much to ask	quakerboy	Dec 2011	#183
Well,	ProSense	Dec 2011	#191
If a thread is about the list	quakerboy	Dec 2011	#200
You're right.A post about indefinite detention should not be met with a list of other stuff.	patrice	Dec 2011	#47
The problem for me is the lack of context and/or hyperbole.	boxman15	Dec 2011	#58
This post was hidden by jury decision.	DesMoinesDem	Dec 2011	#64
Hmmm?	ProSense	Dec 2011	#67
Wow, really???	Tx4obama	Dec 2011	#69
I didn't say everyone, I said some people	DesMoinesDem	Dec 2011	#70
I also find my p.s. amusing b/c there are NO DUers that get paid to post lists about Obama here ;)	Tx4obama	Dec 2011	#71
From	ProSense	Dec 2011	#72
This one actually has a logical origin	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#74
It seems like both sides in this little internecine spat feel like they are the only aggrieved ones.	Pholus	Dec 2011	#82
You are correct	nadinbrzezinski	Dec 2011	#137
It just seems suspicious that a few posters, whom I won't name, haven't ever found one scintilla of	totodeinhere	Dec 2011	#165
Why pay a prostitute when a person of loose morals will do you for free?	Dragonfli	Dec 2011	#225
What do you think?	Rex	Dec 2011	#80
Agreed. And I think those people are a minority at DU	emulatorloo	Dec 2011	#125
Hey Logical.. You know that you've set up a false dichotomy, right?	Orrex	Dec 2011	#81
No but "Is every praise for Obama wrong? Or some people just don't like to hear them?"	pampango	Dec 2011	#83
I, for one, like Obama and really like all liberal/progressive things he has done:	indepat	Dec 2011	#185
I posted this on another thread, this topic...my 2 cents...	Scuba	Dec 2011	#84
And after the last reply has been posted, you can append "I rest my case!" nt	aka-chmeee	Dec 2011	#85
We elected Obama	quaker bill	Dec 2011	#86
Those who demand 100% agreement do so for their own jollies as such a stance does	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2011	#87
SMH	Mr Dixon	Dec 2011	#88
Why one or the other? Some complaints I disagree with, others I agree with.	ehrnst	Dec 2011	#91
So, every complaint about Obama is accurate?...	SidDithers	Dec 2011	#92
Is that really what you got from that post, Sid? Really?	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2011	#111
Again?...	SidDithers	Dec 2011	#158
Election year. It will be difficult in some instances	mmonk	Dec 2011	#93
Criticisms are one thing.	JNelson6563	Dec 2011	#95
Obama came in to a mess	madokie	Dec 2011	#98
I have the opposite impression: Is any credit given to Obama wrong?	K8-EEE	Dec 2011	#99
Let's parse this	dmallind	Dec 2011	#101
HERO WORSHIPPER!	banned from Kos	Dec 2011	#107
Damn you for belittling my adoration of the man-God Obama, may he reign for a thousand years! nt	dmallind	Dec 2011	#110
Good post! nt	Bobbie Jo	Dec 2011	#109
Great response.	JoePhilly	Dec 2011	#118
Excellent analysis. Thanks for taking the time to post it	emulatorloo	Dec 2011	#126
You win.	great white snark	Dec 2011	#168
No more and no less than...	LanternWaste	Dec 2011	#108
They all need "called out."	dotymed	Dec 2011	#114
Of course not, but there are several on DU who always blast Obama and NEVER	WI_DEM	Dec 2011	#115
Agree.	JoePhilly	Dec 2011	#117
I personally feel that hes done alot right and alot wrong....	CarrieLynne	Dec 2011	#116
I agree and disagree.	DWilliamsamh	Dec 2011	#120
What is the effect of the relentless Obama criticisim on potentially new DU members?	JoePhilly	Dec 2011	#121
If that is the case it isn't a good thing.	Puglover	Dec 2011	#124
Could not agree more.	FedUp_Queer	Dec 2011	#141
Exactly	krucial	Dec 2011	#156
Simple question for you ...	JoePhilly	Dec 2011	#176
Your premise is typically that of a partisan.	FedUp_Queer	Dec 2011	#186
The premise that Dems get trashed on DU ...	JoePhilly	Dec 2011	#220
OFA is a good place for that.	tblue	Dec 2011	#211
DU is also supposed to be a good place for that ....	JoePhilly	Dec 2011	#223
Yes, that's why it says.	tblue	Dec 2011	#226
How many straw-men did you pack into that post ... let's count them.	JoePhilly	Dec 2011	#227
I guess if you want to be pissy for the next 5 years, that is your right.	MjolnirTime	Dec 2011	#128
It is the reponsibility of the people in a democracy to hold public servants accountable.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Dec 2011	#130
No Bad things must be said.	krucial	Dec 2011	#132
We did know the truth about Iraq.	NOLALady	Dec 2011	#152
I don't mind substantive criticism.	redqueen	Dec 2011	#134
+10000000 n.t	one_voice	Dec 2011	#159
What I personally do not like is when posters on a	BlueMTexpat	Dec 2011	#142
+1,000,000	NOLALady	Dec 2011	#153
You must be a big old hater.	Jakes Progress	Dec 2011	#160
It's amazing that binary thinkers want to force shades-of-grey thinkers on a discussion brd to STFU	AnotherMcIntosh	Dec 2011	#161
kind of like .. "your either with us or your with the terrorists"	Jim_Shorts	Dec 2011	#164
I think I am going to be sick....in any case I need a long shower..	ooglymoogly	Dec 2011	#163
A while back, Sabrina1 shared some sage advice: Try to separate the action from the person.	gateley	Dec 2011	#172
"He represents every citizen in the country, not just liberals"	FiveGoodMen	Dec 2011	#187
Gee, really? He doesn't have to carry out the wishes of evil people?	gateley	Dec 2011	#202
You're saying that we're right but we shouldn't get our way.	FiveGoodMen	Dec 2011	#207
Sigh. You try to make it so cut and dried and it isn't that way at all. For example,	gateley	Dec 2011	#214
But the issues that Obama gets the real heat for are exactly the 'no-wiggle-room' ones	FiveGoodMen	Dec 2011	#237
Believe me, I agree with you on all these examples but I also acknowledge that unless	gateley	Dec 2011	#252
K&R (n/t)	a2liberal	Dec 2011	#182
Complaining about Obama is perfectly fine.	baldguy	Dec 2011	#184
It's because of the over the top and inaccurate info being dispelled as truth	Capn Sunshine	Dec 2011	#196
You can count on the same posters....	Wind Dancer	Dec 2011	#199
It frightens me.	tblue	Dec 2011	#210
I will have to admit	PatrynXX	Dec 2011	#219
Well thank you!	Wind Dancer	Dec 2011	#229
Dear Logical,	tblue	Dec 2011	#209
This post was hidden by jury decision.	COgator95	Dec 2011	#217
I would hope not	PatrynXX	Dec 2011	#218
no one thinks he's perfect. maybe the "defenders" (i see this talking point has spread quickly) are	dionysus	Dec 2011	#233
Does Obama support working people .....?	lib2DaBone	Dec 2011	#236
On what planet do you spend most of your time?	RBInMaine	Dec 2011	#240
Obama did send 33,000 new troops to Afghanistan...	lib2DaBone	Dec 2011	#238
This is DEMOCRATIC Underground, not BITCH ABOUT OBAMA UNDERGROUND. We are here to DEFEAT the	RBInMaine	Dec 2011	#239
"We are here to DEFEAT the Republicans"	FiveGoodMen	Dec 2011	#242
Hyperbolic nonsense from the leftwing version of the TeaNut Party.	RBInMaine	Dec 2011	#246
Underwhelmed by our capitulating, No hope , No change, not very liberal president.	Vanje	Dec 2011	#244
I heartily recommend this 100%.	pacalo	Dec 2011	#245
No but some are wrong and some are overly simplistic	Prophet 451	Dec 2011	#247
The specter of submiting Americans to extraordinary rendition in a country defined	Ferret Annica	Dec 2011	#250
That's why I love the ignore function	Marrah_G	Dec 2011	#251

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