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VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
259. its not just 25 issues...its 25 CATEGORIES of issues...
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 11:09 PM
Feb 2014

big difference...


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k & fuckin r! n/t wildbilln864 Feb 2014 #1
Strongly agree! HERVEPA Feb 2014 #2
times 8 trillion roguevalley Feb 2014 #120
At least 20 times 8 trillion fadedrose Feb 2014 #138
As I recall, Obama's campaign made themselves look like they were primarilyl JDPriestly Feb 2014 #490
Same here. PFunk Feb 2014 #256
Krystal knows Hillary works for corporate America just like the president. JRLeft Feb 2014 #3
Warren encouraged Hillary to run The The Feb 2014 #22
Hillary will win and you and I will continue to lose as corporations are given more power. JRLeft Feb 2014 #27
Unless of course the truth be told that Hillary Clinton is to the Left of President Obama... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #32
Based on what evidence? Both Hillary and Obama are corporatists. JRLeft Feb 2014 #37
Here you go.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #97
I'm not getting that graph. Which does the red dot represent? Social or economic issues? n/t cui bono Feb 2014 #101
Left and right.....Left is Left...Liberal... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #105
I get the left and right, that's obvious. I asked what the red dot represents. I can't figure out cui bono Feb 2014 #112
Its the sum of ALL the issues.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #113
It may be accurate for Paul, but it most definitely is not for Obama and Clinton. cui bono Feb 2014 #117
Yes it is.....denial is not a river in Egypt and Americans are not as "lefty" as those on DU... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #119
No it's not. What is so left about TPP, cutting SS, spying on American citizens, drone strikes cui bono Feb 2014 #121
Like I say....that is a myopic view.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #126
What makes the graph correct? Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #129
He is NOT....they have him as a Conservative leaning Libertarian.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #130
I am not talking about my view, I am talking about the view of the person who made that graph Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #135
Yes I do.....actually... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #137
He has some batshit crazy positions as well Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #143
Yes he does....but not as batshit as some....sorry... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #147
How is the top/bottom range calculated? This isn't the traditional measurement for these graphs cascadiance Feb 2014 #386
It is the same graph whopis01 Feb 2014 #431
It is NOT the same graph! Where is the point in the repeated graph where one end is AUTHORITARIAN cascadiance Feb 2014 #501
Ah - but they are the same. You just have to recognize whopis01 Feb 2014 #515
A populist-liberal whose financial support comes from Goldman Sachs and Walmart? JDPriestly Feb 2014 #336
No because we don't have campaign finance reform.. VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #423
Bill Clinton's presidency was a feast for the financial sector. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #454
AND Bill Clinton is... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #456
No it is not. I did NOT "base it on ONE issue...or even a couple issues. cui bono Feb 2014 #133
there are more than issues than those that makes a person "left" sorry.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #134
Why can't you just answer the question? Why can't you provide a list of left things he has done? cui bono Feb 2014 #136
Okay... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #139
Oh lord.... cui bono Feb 2014 #145
and I am answering without anecdotal evidence... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #150
As was I. So nothing from you then that you know of that is left for Obama? cui bono Feb 2014 #161
No you are not using FACTS....you are using YOUR opinion...there IS a difference. VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #166
How is Obama pushing for TPP my opinion? Keep reaching... cui bono Feb 2014 #167
TPP is not the ONLY issue is it? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #203
Why don't you ever answer my questions? cui bono Feb 2014 #345
I love that graphic, but CrispyQ Feb 2014 #376
That chart would absurdly suggest Rand Paul is closer to a moderate than Hillary is Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #125
No he isn't VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #128
Then why does the graph put Rand Paul closer to the center than it does Hillary? Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #132
because perhaps he DOES have a moderate position or two... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #140
But having a moderate position or two does not make him a moderate Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #148
He is not a moderate....he is a Conservative leaning Libertarian... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #151
Well the graph does not show him as being very far to the right Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #156
Yes it does for a Libertarian...which he is... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #158
And the north and south positions make the graph even more meaningless Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #170
Okay....who do you think this Moderate is...? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #154
Why does it matter? I think this chart is totally meaningless no matter who it represents Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #159
NO it isn't....you just don't agree...you use anectdotal evidence... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #160
No. Quotes and speeches are not facts when it comes to representing a politician's stance. cui bono Feb 2014 #174
Its not JUST speeches...its VOTES! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #175
I KNOW! You do understand that when they use speeches in addition to votes it skews things, cui bono Feb 2014 #176
NO I don't that's politics...... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #181
If they think that you should consider a politician's empty promises when determining where they cui bono Feb 2014 #186
that is not ALL they are using...they are using actual VOTES.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #189
What are my measurements? Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #178
I have no idea what yours are....go take the test...its available there... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #205
Holy crap looking at those questions makes the chart look even more stupid Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #213
Only stupid to someone that denies Political Science is real science.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #226
Where did I deny that political science was a real science? Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #229
How else would you describe doing this (if not political "science")? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #231
I have obtained information from all of those things as well Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #238
Please provide a link to that then... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #239
Are you asking for a link to my opinion? Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #241
You "opinion" is not what I am interested in... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #252
My god...look at how much work went into that NON-PROFIT site! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #240
If you actually read through their entire website quakerboy Feb 2014 #510
Well said. A post after my own heart. cui bono Feb 2014 #523
There is NO place for authoritarianism in this graph, that older graphs measured. cascadiance Feb 2014 #391
there are no Anarchists on that graph either....so your VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #399
And THAT is why your graph is meaningless, especially the top and bottom "measurement"... cascadiance Feb 2014 #402
A post after my own heart. cui bono Feb 2014 #522
You just said to me that one or two positions does not make the case. cui bono Feb 2014 #173
NO they don't but ALL of the evidence wieghed together does.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #191
It moves the needle the needle a tick or two...doesn't change the fact that he is a VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #192
Turn the graph 45 degrees clockwise whopis01 Feb 2014 #365
No I won't...THAT graph is Bill Clinton!!!! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #395
You have proof? Why haven't you shown it then? cui bono Feb 2014 #403
thats what I HAVE been doing with my graphs... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #404
Graphs that have no validity in what they attempt to show. cui bono Feb 2014 #410
what part of VOTING RECORDS do you NOT understand? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #412
That's not all they use. You are being purposely ingenuous or you are incredibly stupid. cui bono Feb 2014 #414
YES all they use....quotes hold up in a court of law as direct EVIDENCE! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #419
You've lost the plot. cui bono Feb 2014 #421
NO I havent....you are trying to prove some bullshit about quotes not being FACTS VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #422
Okay, so you don't understand this at all I see. cui bono Feb 2014 #427
I understand quite well...and Denial is NOT a river in Egypt. VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #435
I was just explaining how to read the graph whopis01 Feb 2014 #434
I know how to read a graph quite well....thanks though.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #436
My post about how to read the graph was not a reply to your post - it was to someone else. whopis01 Feb 2014 #471
Oh...I am sorry...I thought you were cui bono...my mistake... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #472
Yeah, I don't think the graphs are meaningful in the least. cui bono Feb 2014 #401
Of course you don't .....Facts screw up YOUR narrative! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #406
That site doesn't present facts. cui bono Feb 2014 #408
YES It does... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #409
You left out speeches and quotes. And really, campaign websites? cui bono Feb 2014 #411
So what? THOSE are evidence too....would they NOT be used in a court of law? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #413
omg... seriously? Wow. You are so far gone it's mind boggling. Words are facts??? cui bono Feb 2014 #418
Yeah serious.....Yes YOUR words CAN be used against you in a court of LAW VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #420
The moon is made of cheese. FACT!!! I said it out loud too, so it counts. cui bono Feb 2014 #439
Your actual quotes ARE facts....they can be used against you... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #440
We aren't discussing criteria used to pick who to vote for, we are discussing the illegitimacy cui bono Feb 2014 #441
Thank you! n/t whopis01 Feb 2014 #416
What issue is she liberal about? reusrename Feb 2014 #124
visit the site...its all right there.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #141
Yeah, I saw all that when you posted it. reusrename Feb 2014 #145
then why are you asking me? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #149
I am asking because I don't see anything where she is left of the public. reusrename Feb 2014 #163
YOU might not....however THEY did and THEY listed it..... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #168
Fine. If you don't want to discuss it just say so. reusrename Feb 2014 #180
I have provided what I am basing my positions on..... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #187
Ok. reusrename Feb 2014 #194
That is not evidence of their track record since they include quotes which mean nothing cui bono Feb 2014 #165
bullshit! YOUR knee-jerk technique is false.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #193
If it is science it should be put up for peer review Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #206
Oh really? Where do you suggest "peer review"? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #208
They certainly don't call it peer review, they don't even call it science Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #218
You've never heard of Political Science? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #219
Yes I have heard of political science Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #220
Yes it does... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #221
Your copy and paste job does not make it science either Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #228
more than your knee jerk opinions... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #230
You keep posting their mission statement as if it means something Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #234
It DOES mean something.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #236
So what are the one or two issues I base my opinion on? Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #243
I have no idea...that's 25 CATEGORIES of issues... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #248
And I often look at more than 25 issues when making a personal opinion on a candidate Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #257
its not just 25 issues...its 25 CATEGORIES of issues... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #259
Well I guess you could say I look at more than 25 categories of issues as well Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #260
You are "saying" but not proving....Big Difference... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #261
You are not proving either Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #263
Yeah I am...that's HOW you prove a thesis! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #265
If you tried presenting your arguments in this thread as a thesis you would get a big fat F Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #267
No I wouldn't.....YOU would. VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #268
And I have used all those sorts of sources in forming my opinion Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #270
that is NOT a political "site" Sorry... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #284
Yes it is a political site, and yes so is Democratic Underground Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #288
You can't prove an opinion. And you are not using facts. cui bono Feb 2014 #282
I am not using OPINION .....I have data Apparently YOU don't know what hearsay is... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #426
This message was self-deleted by its author cui bono Feb 2014 #429
You have proved nothing VR. stillwaiting Feb 2014 #356
awwww did I hurt some fee fee's with my TRUTH! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #432
You could never hurt my feelings VR. stillwaiting Feb 2014 #446
Yes I do have the truth...thanks... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #461
One of the things I tomg Feb 2014 #352
Dr Lichtenberg is not the only one... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #437
Nice try...No cigar? tomg Feb 2014 #452
You still got NOTHING! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #458
You are hopeless. tomg Feb 2014 #468
whoopsie....not just speeches... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #212
OMG! At it again? Not sure why you can't state her policy positions. grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #325
they're ALL right there for you to see for yourself...why do I need to repeat any of them VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #433
LOL;) Is she for or against cutting social security? (ie Chained CPI) grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #470
This site is full of shit. blackspade Feb 2014 #307
Says YOU.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #428
Is there a reason why you're pimping this site? blackspade Feb 2014 #445
Oh yes there are...look at the page...above the graph...it shows the metrics right there... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #485
You never answered my question... blackspade Feb 2014 #487
A hard-core liberal supported by Goldman Sachs and Walmart? JDPriestly Feb 2014 #331
Can you PROVE it? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #424
Here is the story on Walmart's owner Alice Walton donating to Hillary. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #453
and this disproves my graph how? As I said...if YOU think you can run today WITHOUT VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #459
Your graph is the product of the subjective analysis of some academics. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #465
verifiable FACTS are NOT subjective... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #466
Opinions are not verifiable facts. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #480
It is NOT opinion....they are USING actual VOTES and Statements... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #481
Yes. I understand. But you are dealing with opinions. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #488
Here are the figures.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #482
Hillary is liberal on social issues. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #489
bullshit...she may not be as far left on economic issues as you would like....but its bullshit VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #491
i'm using the issue that I believe will be uppermost in people's minds in 2016. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #493
It doesn't work like that...ONE issue doesn't determine that....sorry VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #494
I think that the 2016 election may center around core economic issues. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #499
that doesn't answer the question though does it? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #500
What I am saying is that I think that voters who go to the polls in 2016 will go JDPriestly Feb 2014 #502
You don't KNOW that....this IS subjective.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #503
That is something we can agree on. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #504
NO its not based on opinions....its based on the answers the candidates have in each VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #505
But what I am trying to explain is that the questions themselves reveal a bias, JDPriestly Feb 2014 #509
Now WTF do you have on all ^^^^ those issues to dispute it... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #484
That chart is the very definition of 'emptiness'. Jeez... what a pretty picture! delrem Feb 2014 #233
Only to those that disagree with the findings.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #237
There is evidence, then there's "See Jane see! See the dot!" nt delrem Feb 2014 #286
YES it IS evidence....what the heck are YOU using for evidence? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #287
See the dot! See the dot move! nt delrem Feb 2014 #290
the dots aren't moving....you better get your eyes checked... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #291
How many of those people were you familiar with before you copied and pasted their names? Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #292
Do you not consider them experts...they have been doing this since 2000.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #293
I don't believe there are experts when it comes to political analysis Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #296
Uh yes there are...Political Science ring any bells? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #297
As I said repeatedly I get my info from those same sources, I use objective fadts to form my opinion Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #298
BUT you are not compiling them and using algorithms to come to your conclusions... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #300
Politics is not math so no I don't use algorithms to form my opinion Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #305
tell that to Nate Silver... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #309
Nate Silver did not make these graphs, his methodology is very different Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #358
try to keep up...it wasnt about Nate Silver.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #398
Then why the hell did you bring up Nate Silver? Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #455
because it was said you cannot use MATH to do politics... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #457
You obviously don't understand the difference between polling data and political ideology Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #462
Its not about polling....its about SCIENCE....and whether it is science.. VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #463
Nobody except you calls that site science Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #464
Political Science...perhaps you have heard of it? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #495
Your argument reminds me of someone else's Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #496
When totally desperate.....find a way to compare them to George w. Bush! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #498
Words from speeches and press releases are not objective facts when it comes to determining where cui bono Feb 2014 #308
its NOT just speeches...its actual VOTING records! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #310
Why can't you understand that when you mix in non-facts like speeches and campaign websites cui bono Feb 2014 #313
No I won't.....I haven't convinced you because you refuse to accept the facts laid before you... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #317
They are not facts. You know that. Propaganda is used in their assessment. cui bono Feb 2014 #320
Rachel Maddow has her doctorate in political science. MoonchildCA Feb 2014 #380
See the dots on the picture! See see see! delrem Feb 2014 #295
Whatever...I guess you are still not ready to read the "hard stuff".. VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #301
See see! See the dot! The dot is red! Red red red! nt delrem Feb 2014 #302
I am sure Nate Silver would agree there is nothing to be found in dots... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #311
Look Dick look! See the dots! delrem Feb 2014 #328
You ARE learning to read ....GOOD For you delrem VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #430
Yup. I learned early to distinguish parlor games from analysis. nt delrem Feb 2014 #447
parlor games? Prove it! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #460
Others have already proven it in these "VanillaRhapsody" threads. delrem Feb 2014 #469
NOT ONE has proven JACK! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #473
Not to you're mind, VanillaRhapsody. But that doesn't count. delrem Feb 2014 #474
Not to anyone's mind...."Nuh uh"....is not proof! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #475
"disagree with the "findings" bvar22 Feb 2014 #387
Clinton and Obama are rivals in the Left Liberal quadrant??? RufusTFirefly Feb 2014 #330
These charts are misleading nikto Feb 2014 #342
It all depends on how the issues are calculated and evalulated Revanchist Feb 2014 #350
Now there's the correct chart...can easily be verified by the facts AND through simple observation. NorthCarolina Feb 2014 #378
LOL...photoshop much? No thinking person would buy what those charts purportedly represent. NorthCarolina Feb 2014 #362
Give it up. No one believes you RC Feb 2014 #89
bullshit! See above... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #98
Meaningless graph is meaningless. cui bono Feb 2014 #294
Oh no it isn't....Your opinions are what are meaningless... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #312
Then why do you keep reading and responding to my posts? cui bono Feb 2014 #314
because you keep replying to mine...duh!! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #315
Cool. cui bono Feb 2014 #316
Yes I am... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #318
If she runs I don't think she will win. zeemike Feb 2014 #91
Oh yes she will..... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #100
Cool! Show us a link to Warren's words. MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #96
Okay....I got one... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #102
Where does it say Warren encouraged Hillary? cui bono Feb 2014 #103
How is stepping out of the way....not encouraging? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #106
How is stepping out of the way encouraging someone? cui bono Feb 2014 #109
No but she did sign the letter from ALL the Dem Ladies.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #116
It could also mean that by her stepping out of the way fadedrose Feb 2014 #144
but she also signed the secret Letter from "the ladies" VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #162
Seriously? MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #115
the secret letter mentioned above is another.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #118
Secret letter. MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #122
No but those ladies are bonded.....it's been spoken of many times... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #195
Bonded. MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #204
Yes they are....its been spoken of many times.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #207
The secret letter from the bonded ladies. MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #209
they signed it and all agreed to "encourage" (that word you were looking for remember) VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #211
Encourage. Yes. MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #214
fine... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #216
But why is it secret? MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #217
the ladies? Yeah right.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #224
Link please? n/t cui bono Feb 2014 #104
Okay....here you go..., VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #110
Thanks. And yuck! cui bono Feb 2014 #114
Yeah well when she becomes President after Hillary I am sure you will see.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #197
and Hillary is NOT a corporatist...she is a Populist leaning Liberal! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #198
It's early. That can change. Probably will. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #329
How many times have you been PPR'd? morningfog Feb 2014 #492
I agree we dont't need another corporatist INdemo Feb 2014 #152
Good because she is not one....she is a Populist leaning Liberal... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #199
She has millionaires and billionaires waiting to back her if INdemo Feb 2014 #527
You don't have to agree with it...but NO one yet has had more credible evidence that she isn't VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #528
I agree to disagree and INdemo Feb 2014 #529
she IS a Liberal....this meme is ridic! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #530
It's time we talk about economic justice. That has been a taboo topic since Reagan. JDPriestly May 2014 #531
I saw it. Awknid Feb 2014 #4
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Feb 2014 #5
Clinton-Sachs may be progressive on social issues, but she is not the one to rhett o rick Feb 2014 #6
Oh really? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #202
Good luck trying to sell that completely bogus chart...LOL NorthCarolina Feb 2014 #425
K&R G_j Feb 2014 #7
Crystal Ball just gained huge respect from me! Hun Joro Feb 2014 #8
Her name used to bother me too Awknid Feb 2014 #11
Her dad did his dissertation on crystals, so maybe she is honoring him by keeping it. n/t dorkzilla Feb 2014 #82
Not maybe. He chose her name based on his work. n/t DFW Feb 2014 #442
Yes, that's what I said. The question posed was "why wouldn't she change her name". n/t dorkzilla Feb 2014 #444
Why should she? DFW Feb 2014 #449
Huh??? No one said she should change her name! dorkzilla Feb 2014 #467
You guys, it's KRYSTAL. JaneyVee Feb 2014 #108
It's worse than you realize--she spells it with a K! MADem Feb 2014 #87
I agree completely bowens43 Feb 2014 #9
They need someone not in the back pocket of Big Business. nt arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #10
what makes you think that? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #34
I think she and her husband or too tied into the Wall Street thieves. Also her arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #38
She hasn't worked there for many many years.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #43
I guess I'm like Chrystal, I was for her the first time but her position on arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #57
Well no one....NO one...has the gravitas to win.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #60
If it came down that she won the nomination for prez, there's no way I wouldn't support arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #64
and I do....and I knew before Barack Obama won the primary that Hillary was left of him VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #66
The alternative is a nightmare! arthritisR_US Feb 2014 #69
Which is why you go with your A-team.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #70
Walmart is among Hillary's current supporters. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #332
Here is her husband... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #201
Surprised me too - but she's right, HRC isn't the one for this moment. polichick Feb 2014 #12
Hillary: "Outsourcing will continue..." antigop Feb 2014 #13
I am totally convinced. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #26
"not against all outsourcing" VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #36
Then what good is she? MFrohike Feb 2014 #164
You don't like honesty in a candidate? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #172
I don't like uselessness MFrohike Feb 2014 #179
A President is ONLY a President...sorry....but they cannot make THAT VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #182
Oh brother MFrohike Feb 2014 #183
I understand you quite well.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #227
No, you really don't MFrohike Feb 2014 #242
you have 3 bullets....they have HUNDREDS! VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #250
Binders full of women! MFrohike Feb 2014 #272
Actually no...I have this... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #274
The sense to walk away MFrohike Feb 2014 #280
You should walk away....YOU have nothing to back yourself up... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #281
Their work is based on past results. Their work is not relevant to a time of as much JDPriestly Feb 2014 #335
The president is responsible for the negotiation of trade agreements. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #337
She said that? abelenkpe Feb 2014 #74
Didn't she also call herself dreamnightwind Feb 2014 #271
I doubt it.. VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #276
"I can certainly run for the Senate seat in Punjab and win easily." antigop Feb 2014 #383
she co-founded the Senate India caucus with John Cornyn antigop Feb 2014 #384
Clinton's free-trade advocacy is hitting labor where it lives antigop Feb 2014 #385
Thank you for these posts - eom dreamnightwind Feb 2014 #443
Hillary touts "advantages" of outsourcing of US jobs to India antigop Feb 2014 #14
You deny that? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #39
And that is why I won't set foot in that hellish excuse for a business. blackspade Feb 2014 #321
Me either....but I guarantee you in one way or another you have benefitted. VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #322
Please quantify that benefit. blackspade Feb 2014 #323
I'm sure the Clintons are both benefiting with their crazy priced 'speeches'... Whisp Feb 2014 #476
It is a matter of balancing the benefits against the losses. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #338
Hillary Clinton reaffirms support for more H-1B visas antigop Feb 2014 #15
we DO have a shortage of Dr's and Nurses...they use the H1B visas too... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #279
American Drs. and nurses are the best educated and most carefully vetted. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #339
Yes they are.....but we are still having a shortage that will continue VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #396
And many radiologists have been outsourced because X-Rays can be sent overseas in a minute or so... cascadiance Feb 2014 #389
THAT is malarkey.....we don't have enough Drs and Nurses...THAT is a fact VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #397
And overseas like India they SUBSIDIZE their education while our kids have more college debt! cascadiance Feb 2014 #417
I watched that. Skidmore Feb 2014 #16
Hillary played a leading part in drafting the TPP antigop Feb 2014 #17
Papantonio: Hillary Can’t Shed Corporate Stripes (video) antigop Feb 2014 #18
This is consistent with MSNBC's strategy The The Feb 2014 #19
Extreme left? Since when was Krystal Ball extreme left? Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #21
Whenever I hear "extreme left" it usually means someone who's to the left of Bill O'Reilly. Iggo Feb 2014 #24
but there are Left fringers too.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #42
I'm sure there are. Iggo Feb 2014 #62
what do you think the Left fringe is? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #68
What does The The define it as? Iggo Feb 2014 #71
I would consider the left fringe to be Stalinists and Maoists Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #86
Exactly. But the centrists/corporatists like to try to label the real left as extreme so they can cui bono Feb 2014 #177
and some people TRY to make those on the left appear as moderates... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #215
I'm not doing any such thing. Do you finally have an example cui bono Feb 2014 #223
there is a whole list for you to browse at VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #235
Why do I have to do your work for you? I need LEFT things Obama has done. cui bono Feb 2014 #266
Okay do you consider Teabaggers Fascists? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #249
I am talking about a real Stalinist, not a teabaggers uninformed ramblings of what a Stalinist is Bjorn Against Feb 2014 #255
Right and I am talking about Real Fascists.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #258
So you are saying that laundry_queen Feb 2014 #262
No that was NOT what I was saying.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #264
I don't think that Elizabeth Warren is all that to the left. I think she is quite middle-class JDPriestly Feb 2014 #341
Extreme left? Because we don't want Hillary? Enthusiast Feb 2014 #25
Preferring someone over Hillary vs. Wanting Hillary not to run at all The The Feb 2014 #30
Hillary's history tells us all we need to know. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #53
Huh? daleanime Feb 2014 #28
and those are the ONLY Liberals YOU can even think of based on a very narrow VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #45
YOU don't know what I'm thinking.... daleanime Feb 2014 #155
I DO know what kind of "stuff" goes around on DU about it....I take it you concur... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #157
Extreme left? They aren't allowed anywhere near corporate media. cui bono Feb 2014 #29
Exactly. The Rs put their fringe front and center and thier corporate office, FoxNoise, Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2014 #393
Lol. Subtle! nt Union Scribe Feb 2014 #79
Aw, give him a break. He's new. Iggo Feb 2014 #200
Same as it was in 2008. Beacool Feb 2014 #253
MSNBC is owned by extreme right corporations. They fired olbermann & Cenk. grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #327
Ms. Ball usually always has something profound to add to the conversation... dawnie51 Feb 2014 #20
K&R! I hope this post gets hundreds of recommendations. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #23
2016 is the year of the women, and whoever is the nominee lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #31
the difference is Hillary can WIN.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #48
Joy Reid just made an excellent point on Ed's show. Skidmore Feb 2014 #52
and WHO else can win? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #56
2016 can wait a bit. Skidmore Feb 2014 #72
In 2006 who thought Obama would win? cui bono Feb 2014 #185
After a George W Bush? Pretty easy VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #275
Okay, pay attention before you respond. I said in 2006. That was before the primaries started. cui bono Feb 2014 #283
Your "little directions" mean nothing to me...believe me I PAY attention... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #285
No, you weren't paying attention as evidenced by your last post. cui bono Feb 2014 #289
I think you missed a key detail quakerboy Feb 2014 #512
In the past 30 years, no potential candidate has had to face the kind of attacks that Hillary JDPriestly Feb 2014 #343
Sort of like she did when she ran for the Senate? MADem Feb 2014 #85
I have no doubt that she has a strategy to follow. Skidmore Feb 2014 #92
I intentially did not remark on a specific candidate. There are a lot of demographics that go into lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #273
K&R Whisp Feb 2014 #33
I know...BENGAZI! right? VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #49
Ben Gauzie is a Muslin! Whisp Feb 2014 #59
Simple fact is....Hillary Clinton can win...and most likely WILL win... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #65
The fact that the Pugs hate her so isn't enough for me. Whisp Feb 2014 #88
Signed in just to K&R this post. TalkingDog Feb 2014 #35
The unfortunately named pundit is dead on correct. PeteSelman Feb 2014 #40
She ended it by saying she would be 100% behind Clinton ecstatic Feb 2014 #41
NOPE they would rather risk another George Bush.... VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #50
Except Hillary would BE another George Bush. Just another corporatist forced upon the voters. nt NorthCarolina Feb 2014 #415
2 SCOTUS picks not worth the risk lobodons Feb 2014 #44
^^^^THIS!!!^^^ VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #54
have you seen the parade of shitgoblins in the republican stable? frylock Feb 2014 #78
She's a loser. Marr Feb 2014 #93
When they say she is "electable," they mean that she has the money. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #344
Hear! Hear! Auntie Bush Feb 2014 #142
Ironic when MSNBC people affect a strong Union support. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #46
Don't want her for president ebbie15644 Feb 2014 #47
ANY woman running would have to be willing to fight a war. ANY. aquart Feb 2014 #55
I liked this rant but if Clinton becomes the nominee justiceischeap Feb 2014 #51
Wait, so then you think she SHOULD run? The The Feb 2014 #58
No, I don't think she should run justiceischeap Feb 2014 #61
If the electorate is farther to the left, the Clintons will be too. TheMathieu Feb 2014 #63
So Krystal Ball and William Kristol are on the same page. Great. DURHAM D Feb 2014 #67
Kristol Ball The The Feb 2014 #73
People are waking up to the economic inequality, and Hillary will not do anything to liberal_at_heart Feb 2014 #75
How do you know she won't do "anything" The The Feb 2014 #76
I saw it and I agree with Ms. Ball. earthside Feb 2014 #77
Thank you for your concern. aquart Feb 2014 #84
Like Ms. Ball, I like Warren. earthside Feb 2014 #90
Schweitzer? You might want to do some research. Evergreen Emerald Feb 2014 #232
Since you have expressed a strong opinion, who do you think would make a viable candidate? lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #277
I would love to see a woman as the Democratic nominee aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2014 #80
I think it is H2O Man Feb 2014 #81
I agree. n/t. ms liberty Feb 2014 #131
Hater! nt antigop Feb 2014 #269
the right person is anyone who can beat the GOP in spite of massive GOP fraud and voter suppression stg81 Feb 2014 #83
Not if they continue GOP policy. We've had all we can take of that. n/t cui bono Feb 2014 #123
The only reason Hillary is the favorite of several people here rustydog Feb 2014 #94
Guess who won't be getting any interviews with the next President! Walk away Feb 2014 #95
Oh Oh, Crystal is now on The List... Whisp Feb 2014 #99
Oh! You mean the alleged "enemy list" that may or may not exist? The The Feb 2014 #107
My sentiments nt Sienna86 Feb 2014 #111
Not a comment on the feeling, but calling out this line: Lordquinton Feb 2014 #127
Good point! JDPriestly Feb 2014 #346
I will support that Democrat who I determine has the best chance of winning. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2014 #153
Agree completely. n/t kiranon Feb 2014 #319
Crystal has a big "but" rock Feb 2014 #169
I like the other possible candidates but I question whether they can win. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #171
I like her too and believe she can win. Great minds run on the same track. Auntie Bush Feb 2014 #184
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Who gives a s*** what Krystal Ball says? OldRedneck Feb 2014 #190
I'm in the 1st district also gwheezie Feb 2014 #334
And now we know the rest of the story. Interesting. mfcorey1 Feb 2014 #351
I used to like her...but not anymore. Auntie Bush Feb 2014 #196
So who IS the right person? And it had better be someone who will win! Kablooie Feb 2014 #210
I agree with her. Ruby the Liberal Feb 2014 #222
And Another... WillyT Feb 2014 #225
MSNBC is getting REALLY difficult to watch..... George II Feb 2014 #244
I'm still in shock that anyone watches the cycle Champion Jack Feb 2014 #245
k/r 840high Feb 2014 #246
Hillary may run or not, but I'm sure that Warren meant it when she said that she was not running. Beacool Feb 2014 #247
Now now, Sweetie, it was just her opinion fadedrose Feb 2014 #251
I don't take this place seriously because it doesn't reflect the real world. Beacool Feb 2014 #254
The person I vote for may not win, but at least I know I will be voting for the change I want. liberal_at_heart Feb 2014 #299
Or Toure's George II Feb 2014 #372
Just because she sat on the Walmart Board does not mean she is treestar Feb 2014 #278
Why not a Union President? JDPriestly Feb 2014 #347
Name one that is likely to ever run for POTUS treestar Feb 2014 #359
At this time, there aren't any, but I would not rule out the possibility of one JDPriestly Feb 2014 #390
I didn't click on the link. Does the person provide any credible alternatives? Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #303
ahh. I just clicked. Elizabeth Warren. A non-credible candidate. Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #304
Why do you consider Warren to be a "non-credible" candidate? JDPriestly Feb 2014 #348
Hillary disqualified herself when she voted for Bush's war, prevaricated over torture and supported sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #306
She's wrong on wars, costly trade, taxation, SS, & privatization. grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #324
HRC 2016 Campaign Slogan: "You Don't Need No Stinkin' Choices" blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #326
No, because I had to disconnect the cable. The money to pay for it is with some rentier. jtuck004 Feb 2014 #333
Crystal's got it right... nikto Feb 2014 #340
Well, I'll have to BlueMTexpat Feb 2014 #349
Agree Completely - Hillary Is Wrong For America cantbeserious Feb 2014 #353
we must come to an agreement.... tomp Feb 2014 #354
Have you ever watched a cat trying to cover up shit on a linoleum floor? bvar22 Feb 2014 #405
That's one of the funniest posts in recent memory dreamnightwind Feb 2014 #450
K&R'ed 2 Thumbs up! BrainDrain Feb 2014 #355
After reading this thread (yes, I read all of it), I have come to one conclusion: Buns_of_Fire Feb 2014 #357
I agree. MynameisBlarney Feb 2014 #360
Those items in your avatar are disgusting and propaganda to the max!! mfcorey1 Feb 2014 #364
The what now? MynameisBlarney Feb 2014 #366
When you click on the graphic for your post, a list comes up with some of the most vile lies about mfcorey1 Feb 2014 #367
It leads to the poster's journal. HappyMe Feb 2014 #368
Not blaming him, but pointing out the items listed are disgusting. mfcorey1 Feb 2014 #370
Yes, they are. HappyMe Feb 2014 #371
Ooooooh! Thanks! I had no idea. MynameisBlarney Feb 2014 #373
Krystal Ball is entitled to her opinion. HappyMe Feb 2014 #361
Heard it. Loved it. 12AngryBorneoWildmen Feb 2014 #363
I love how people become political experts after losing very winnable districts. nt TheMathieu Feb 2014 #369
I didn't make the connection until now because her name didn't mean anything to me. Beacool Feb 2014 #374
you actually went there? ROFLMAO!!! Whisp Feb 2014 #477
Go scratch the dog, I think it has an itch. Beacool Feb 2014 #478
Now will Ball live up to her name? alp227 Feb 2014 #375
I totally agree with her Estevan Feb 2014 #377
If her parents really named her that... Loaded Liberal Dem Feb 2014 #379
Yes, her parents really named her that DFW Feb 2014 #448
heehe! I thought I was the only one that felt like Cyrstal!! Stellar Feb 2014 #381
K&R broiles Feb 2014 #382
wow! 170 recs. 170 "haters". sarcasm. nt antigop Feb 2014 #388
This message was self-deleted by its author bvar22 Feb 2014 #392
I supported Kucinich. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2014 #394
the site explains their methodology...you are welcome to go there and read it yourself. VanillaRhapsody Feb 2014 #400
I agree vrp Feb 2014 #407
Don't have time to read the comments, but this is powerful. Wow. Shifted my begruding support libdem4life Feb 2014 #438
And we laugh at the tea party for destroying their best chances. aquart Feb 2014 #479
Perhaps her credentials are roughly akin to those of quakerboy Feb 2014 #514
Elizabeth Warren is a political novice. Plain fact. aquart Feb 2014 #518
You say novice quakerboy Feb 2014 #525
How does "begrudging support" "trash" Hillary? I'm Left Liberal and I don't condescendingly sneer libdem4life Feb 2014 #516
"Can she withstand" quakerboy Feb 2014 #513
In case anyone is interested, Krystal did not make the decision do this segment lightly DFW Feb 2014 #451
good for her G_j Feb 2014 #483
She has more depth than some would ascribe to her DFW Feb 2014 #508
I admire her guts. HappyMe Feb 2014 #511
I took the liberty of passing your comment on to her DFW Feb 2014 #524
well, what she said was well thought out G_j Feb 2014 #520
Glad to share them DFW Feb 2014 #521
Count me in the "Amen Corner". Maybe she just broke through the Inevitable Ceiling, just a bit.n/t libdem4life Feb 2014 #517
so before 2008 i watched the iowa caucuses questionseverything Feb 2014 #486
Bookmarking this thread for the 2016 primaries neverforget Feb 2014 #497
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I mean really "Crystal Ball"... Ellipsis Feb 2014 #507
My thoughts Faux pas Feb 2014 #519
"Thin slice of educated elite," what a bullshit phrase. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2014 #526
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