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8. Then how did it apply to Zimmerman, an Hispanic? . . .

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Under FLA's Stand Your Ground Law, An African American Man Can Shoot Zimmerman [View all] Yavin4 Mar 2012 OP

And it would still be a violation of the victim's civil rights. no_hypocrisy Mar 2012 #1

If it were any other state, I could see concerned legislators gathering to ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2012 #2

Almost every state has "stand your ground" type laws. TheWraith Mar 2012 #16

It has had a chilling effect here in Florida csziggy Mar 2012 #50

It tripled "justifiable homicides". I believe that officially qualifies as "blood in the streets". ieoeja Mar 2012 #63

No, it didn't. TheWraith Mar 2012 #68

But would people call it a hate crime johnnie Mar 2012 #3

No, they'd call it a hate crime because of Zimmerman's own comments on tape csziggy Mar 2012 #52

Sounds right to me Politicalboi Mar 2012 #4

No, only caucasians have the right to shoot anybody under this law tularetom Mar 2012 #5

Then how did it apply to Zimmerman, an Hispanic? . . . Journeyman Mar 2012 #8

Because Latinos come in every shade of the rainbow EFerrari Mar 2012 #12

He is a white Hispanic, just as Salma Hayek is an Lebanese Hispanic, and tblue37 Mar 2012 #21

he is not white, he is mestizo. provis99 Mar 2012 #33

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2012 #6

If this asshat gets away with murder, it's going to set race relations back 50 years. BlueJazz Mar 2012 #7

On Amy's show today, I heard that nearly half the states have similar laws. n/t EFerrari Mar 2012 #9

Not entirely, but close zipplewrath Mar 2012 #10

the real world doesn't work like that JI7 Mar 2012 #11

Under the law, technically, yes kdmorris Mar 2012 #13

That's the conclusion we reached in another thread. Baitball Blogger Mar 2012 #15

If he had a gun, they would use it as proof he was looking for trouble fascisthunter Mar 2012 #32

Yup. Baitball Blogger Mar 2012 #36

The Florida law does NOT state that ... spin Mar 2012 #23

Does not state what? kdmorris Mar 2012 #40

The enforcement of the law should be fair ... spin Mar 2012 #43

Most of the time, I feel like all of Florida is lagging behind kdmorris Mar 2012 #47

You are intentionally ignoring the requirement of reasonableness that is explicitly in the law slackmaster Mar 2012 #28

"reasonable" is from the point of view of the shooter. provis99 Mar 2012 #34

No, reasonableness ultimately gets decided by a jury in a criminal trial slackmaster Mar 2012 #37

Which is why Zimmerman is being charged by the local authorities... ellisonz Mar 2012 #38

The case has been handed over to a grand jury slackmaster Mar 2012 #42

No but criminal investigations should be... ellisonz Mar 2012 #44

George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin should have been given toxicology tests slackmaster Mar 2012 #49

Trayvon Martin would be as part of the autopsy. n/t ellisonz Mar 2012 #51

The family's attorney stated that toxicology tests were run on Trayvon's body. They were negative. yardwork Mar 2012 #57

The ONLY reason this case was finally handed to a grand jury is due to public outcry. yardwork Mar 2012 #56

Are you saying that the Florida SA doesn't review all homicides? slackmaster Mar 2012 #58

The police chief was quoted as saying that the DA saw no evidence to press charges. yardwork Mar 2012 #59

Wow. If that's true the problem is much bigger than Sanford PD. slackmaster Mar 2012 #60

The last three paragraphs in the article at this link: yardwork Mar 2012 #61

A lot of people are going to be very disappointed if Zimmerman isn't charged with a crime slackmaster Mar 2012 #62

I agree that it's still a possibility and if so, it will cause a huge ruckus. yardwork Mar 2012 #65

I don't know if it is the same laundry_queen Mar 2012 #45

What you have articulated sounds exactly the same as jury instructions I've gotten in the USA slackmaster Mar 2012 #48

I'm glad you got those jury instructions laundry_queen Mar 2012 #53

I am not intentionally ignoring anything. kdmorris Mar 2012 #39

We just had that discussion. Baitball Blogger Mar 2012 #14

You didn't read the statute? Says that only "scary" people can be shot by "scared" property-holders leveymg Mar 2012 #17

He's already be under a prison somewhere. n/t ingac70 Mar 2012 #18

I listened to Faux a few minutes ago and they are saying doc03 Mar 2012 #19

Zimmerman should never have stepped his racist ass out of his vehicle as DIRECTED by 911. CakeGrrl Mar 2012 #22

Direction by 911 operators is not required to be followed ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #26

I wonder how Zimmerman got bloodied. Probably while he was attacking Trayvon. yardwork Mar 2012 #24

Me either. Especially when you listen to the two women (it's playing on CNN) ScreamingMeemie Mar 2012 #54

Are those the witnesses that the police kept "correcting?" yardwork Mar 2012 #55

No. He has to have reason to expect an imminent attack that would ... spin Mar 2012 #20

Not at all ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #25

No, and I feel it is counterproductive for you to post such hysterical hyperbole on this forum slackmaster Mar 2012 #27

Seconded. randome Mar 2012 #30

Should have been my son malaise Mar 2012 #29

yup.... he stalked him fascisthunter Mar 2012 #31

It's not about 'feeling threatened', as much as *some* media has been portraying it as such. X_Digger Mar 2012 #35

But since it's been a month with no arrest, Doctor_J Mar 2012 #66

It's the Sanford PD that's the root of this.. X_Digger Mar 2012 #67

He'd be under the jail ecstatic Mar 2012 #41

When in America's 236 year history would it be ok for a black man fluchen Mar 2012 #46

Thoretically. Realistically? Black man arrested in a nanosecond. -nt CakeGrrl Mar 2012 #64

I've said this exact thing since I first read about this......... socialist_n_TN Mar 2012 #69