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In reply to the discussion: Florida Man Uses Stand Your Ground Defense in Killing of Black Teen Over Loud Music [View all]spin
(17,493 posts)43. I firmly support the basic concept of the law as I said. ...
That doesn't mean that I like the way the law as written has been abused by the legal system.
As I said in a post above, stand your ground does not mean chase down and kill and yet that is what happened in several cases. The law is also so poorly written that drug dealers have successful used it as their defense.
Prosecutors say it has too often been used to protect gang members and drug dealers in shoot-outs. Although it does not apply if the defendant is committing a crime, the law does not define criminal activity and courts have differed on their interpretations of the statute. As a Times database of nearly 200 "stand your ground" cases shows, simply being a felon in possession of a gun or a drug dealer has not prevented defendants from successfully invoking the law.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/drug-dealer-used-stand-your-ground-to-avoid-charges-in-two-killings/1235650
It would not bother me in the least to see the SYG defense fail far more often.
You suggest I have a "murder fantasy" and you are totally wrong. The ONLY time I would consider using my legally concealed firearm is if I am actually attacked by an individual who is armed or so much lager and physically stronger than I am, that I would have little chance of surviving without serious injury and might end up dead. If I draw my weapon and my attacker runs, I have no interest in shooting him in the back or following him as his threat no longer exists.
If I was caught off guard and a man who was armed told me to turn over my wallet, I would appraise him. If I felt that all he wanted was my wallet, I would simply give it up. I can always replace on money, my ID and my credit cards. Recovering in a hospital is far more difficult and I have no desire to end up six feet under. If my attacker was very angry, irrational or extremely high and I suspected that he would either hurt or kill me after I gave him my wallet, I would have little to lose by attempting to STOP his attack. He would have an excellent chance of surviving several wounds from my snub nosed .38 caliber revolver if aid could reach him in time. I have no desire to kill another person as that is a life changing event that is rarely positive.
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Florida Man Uses Stand Your Ground Defense in Killing of Black Teen Over Loud Music [View all]
MrScorpio
Feb 2014
OP
Why not? SYG defenses have like a 1.000 batting average the past couple of years...
Blue_Tires
Feb 2014
#1
Let's look at some actual data that proves that SYG is NOT a get out of jail free card. ...
spin
Feb 2014
#10
Technically Zimmerman is a mix. His mother was born in Peru and his father is white. ...
spin
Feb 2014
#34
It was the prosecution's job to prove to the jury that Zimmerman was guilty beyond ...
spin
Feb 2014
#36
I quite clearly understand the difference between legal guilt and not guilty (vs innocence)
etherealtruth
Feb 2014
#37
The media often makes it difficult to hold a fair trial. A high publicity case can get ...
spin
Feb 2014
#47
Another stupid asshole who should not have been allowed to have and carry any gun.
L0oniX
Feb 2014
#30
Suppose (which is doubtful) that there was a gun in the car and so someone was posing a threat.
Vattel
Feb 2014
#54
Another hero to the gunner shitheads: killing black teenagers is their favorite pasttime
alcibiades_mystery
Feb 2014
#57
This fuck deserves to spend the rest of his worthless fucking life in jail.
Stinky The Clown
Feb 2014
#59
he might have beaten the rap if he'd done like Zimbo and left no witnesses
Pretzel_Warrior
Feb 2014
#71
‘I hate that thug music,’ white man told fiancée moments before gunning down black teen
Blue_Tires
Feb 2014
#73