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Octafish

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Mon Mar 19, 2012, 01:08 AM Mar 2012

PATRIOT Act Being Used to Keep Super Duper Government Spy Operation Top Secret [View all]

Three cheers for Sen. Ron Wyden of Oregon and Sen. Mark Udall of Colorado -- they've tried warning We the People and their fellow elected representatives about vitally important issues with the way the Government uses the USA PATRIOT Act. Unfortunately, the very law prevents them from disclosing what would cause us to be stunned.



The New York Times reported on Thursday:



Democratic Senators Issue Strong Warning About Use of the Patriot Act

By CHARLIE SAVAGE
The New York Times, March 16, 2012

WASHINGTON — For more than two years, a handful of Democrats on the Senate intelligence committee have warned that the government is secretly interpreting its surveillance powers under the Patriot Act in a way that would be alarming if the public — or even others in Congress — knew about it.

On Thursday, two of those senators — Ron Wyden of Oregon and Mark Udall of Colorado — went further. They said a top-secret intelligence operation that is based on that secret legal theory is not as crucial to national security as executive branch officials have maintained.

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“We would also note that in recent months we have grown increasingly skeptical about the actual value of the ‘intelligence collection operation,’ ” they added. “This has come as a surprise to us, as we were initially inclined to take the executive branch’s assertions about the importance of this ‘operation’ at face value.”

The dispute centers on what the government thinks it is allowed to do under Section 215 of the Patriot Act, under which agents may obtain a secret order from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court allowing them to get access to any “tangible things” — like business records — that are deemed “relevant” to a terrorism or espionage investigation.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/16/us/politics/democratic-senators-warn-about-use-of-patriot-act.html?_r=2



Gee. I sure hope Sen. Wyden and Sen. Udall succeed in letting us know what the hell is going on with the USA PATRIOT Act spying on Americans thing is all about. After all, it is a sad time in America when Senators are afraid of being whistleblowers.



Stratfor: executive boasted of 'trusted former CIA cronies'

By Alex Spillius, Diplomatic Correspondent
9:08PM GMT 28 Feb 2012
The Telegraph

A senior executive with the private intelligence firm Stratfor boasted to colleagues about his "trusted former CIA cronies" and promised to "see what I can uncover" about a classified FBI investigation, according to emails released by the WikiLeaks.

Fred Burton, vice president of intelligence at the Texas firm, also informed members of staff that he had a copy of the confidential indictment on Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks.

The second batch of five million internal Stratfor emails obtained by the Anonymous computer hacking group revealed that the company has high level sources within the United States and other governments, runs a network of paid informants that includes embassy staff and journalists and planned a hedge fund, Stratcap, based on its secret intelligence.

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Mr Assange labelled the company as a "private intelligence Enron", in reference to the energy giant that collapsed after a false accounting scandal.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9111784/Stratfor-executive-boasted-of-trusted-former-CIA-cronies.html



The two Senators were talking about this latest outrage way back when. DUers, of course, were aware. But the rest of the nation, not so much.

Now why would Capitalism's Invisible Army want to keep We the People in the dark? For one thing, besides keeping tabs on everyone's comings and goings, could be for personal gain, say via inside trading?



Stratfor & Goldman Sachs started hedge fund called Stratcap to trade on illegal inside gov't info

"Stratfor’s use of insiders for intelligence soon turned into a money-making scheme of questionable legality. The emails show that in 2009 then-Goldman Sachs Managing Director Shea Morenz and Stratfor CEO George Friedman hatched an idea to "utilise the intelligence" it was pulling in from its insider network to start up a captive strategic investment fund. CEO George Friedman explained in a confidential August 2011 document, marked DO NOT SHARE OR DISCUSS : "What StratCap will do is use our Stratfor’s intelligence and analysis to trade in a range of geopolitical instruments, particularly government bonds, currencies and the like". The emails show that in 2011 Goldman Sach’s Morenz invested "substantially" more than $4million and joined Stratfor’s board of directors. Throughout 2011, a complex offshore share structure extending as far as South Africa was erected, designed to make StratCap appear to be legally independent. But, confidentially, Friedman told StratFor staff : "Do not think of StratCap as an outside organisation. It will be integral... It will be useful to you if, for the sake of convenience, you think of it as another aspect of Stratfor and Shea as another executive in Stratfor... we are already working on mock portfolios and trades". StratCap is due to launch in 2012. "

http://wikileaks.org/the-gifiles.html



One thing is for certain: Secret government makes it really hard to follow the money. It does make obvious who's getting rich off it, though.



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I wonder if the plug will ever be pulled on "Total Information Awareness". I doubt it. trusty elf Mar 2012 #1
Privacy is not a constitutional right, according to Poindexter. Octafish Mar 2012 #4
Is James Bamford's article "Inside The Matrix" in the april WIRED magazine pertinent? dougolat Mar 2012 #2
Watch what you say! What the NSA guy told Bamford... Octafish Mar 2012 #5
And why build it in Utah? Land of the American Taliban siligut Jun 2013 #23
K&R think Mar 2012 #3
Universal Data Mining is Money! Octafish Mar 2012 #6
Another thing about ''Intelligent'' Inside Trading... Octafish Mar 2012 #7
Kick Kaleko Mar 2012 #8
CIA Officers Moonlighting on Wall Street Octafish Mar 2012 #9
Dammit, I have missed that piece of the puzzle... Kaleko Mar 2012 #13
k&r nt steve2470 Mar 2012 #10
Senators Wyden and Udall still fighting against Patriot Act secrecy Octafish Mar 2012 #11
That reminds me of Pete Defazio. OnyxCollie Mar 2012 #15
When 9-11happened, Bush evacuated top officials except Democrats Octafish Mar 2012 #16
More for them - less for us - the system works. Initech Mar 2012 #12
Tradition. Octafish Mar 2012 #14
It wouldn't surprise me if we're all, all U.S. citizens, considered "criminals". n/t Trillo Mar 2012 #17
If you're not with us, we'll destroy you. Octafish Mar 2012 #18
K&R woo me with science Mar 2012 #19
How Can Congress Debate a Secret Law? Octafish Mar 2012 #20
Kick for WikiLeaks. Octafish Aug 2012 #21
Thank you. K&R! n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #22
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