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Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
44. I'm not buying it.
Sun Dec 15, 2013, 04:53 PM
Dec 2013

The lynching part, that is.

Criticism is not lynching. Lynching describes a mob putting a person to death outside the law, often very brutally. Arguing with someone, or even harshly criticizing someone, is nothing like lynching. That's just a ridiculous thing to write.

I suspect that the source of the author's hysteria at the moment is that some of the criticism is sticking, but that's inevitable. It was purely an executive responsibility to do the exchange and issue all the rulings necessary to even start, and the Executive goofed. Also there genuinely is a problem with NSA-type surveillance gone wild. We neither need nor want to be a Stasi society, and I support anyone from left, right or center who points that out.

But criticism isn't necessarily attack, and in a democratic system there will be criticism of any politician, no matter how good. That's a necessary part of it, and not a symptom of a dysfunctional society.

The Left has every right to criticize even a Democratic president where it disagrees with policies - there's nothing wrong in that. And the right is always going to criticize a Democratic president, just as the left is always going to criticize a Republican president. Most of the criticism has rolled off President Obama's back, because it wasn't just.

The Left worked very hard to get Obama re-elected. It succeeded, and it now has the right and duty to clamor about its own political priorities.

DU rec. ucrdem Dec 2013 #1
The K and R.... dhill926 Dec 2013 #2
Schaeffer has put my feelings into words. politichew Dec 2013 #3
+1 jazzimov Dec 2013 #17
+1 more nt Progressive dog Dec 2013 #23
+1000. Thank you. eom BlueCaliDem Dec 2013 #31
Thank you politichew!!! liberal from boston Dec 2013 #42
No Enthusiast Dec 2013 #56
Welcome to DU, politichew! calimary Dec 2013 #81
Welcome to DU ploitichw!!!! blue14u Dec 2013 #102
Are you saying people who vote communist criticized him? Because that is the extreme left not merrily Dec 2013 #123
A year ago I started going to a coffee shop in the morning and for sometime Vietnameravet Dec 2013 #4
Obama sure blew the whole Right Wing argument into dust.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #36
I would have simply said, Control-Z Dec 2013 #46
+1!!!!!!! I usually say Cha Dec 2013 #117
I'm sure you were sympathetic, but the complaints about his relationships were one sided, no doubt. freshwest Dec 2013 #112
African Americans who were lynched in real life had ZERO POWER KeepItReal Dec 2013 #5
True to your forum name Martin Eden Dec 2013 #9
And how many actual days did the Ds control the Senate & House? stopbush Dec 2013 #27
Only a few days as I recall rickford66 Dec 2013 #47
If I remember correctly, I read blue14u Dec 2013 #106
Not true. merrily Dec 2013 #125
Hi merrily.. Do you know blue14u Dec 2013 #126
Didn't the link in my post work? merrily Dec 2013 #127
P.S. Thank you for all the kind words. merrily Dec 2013 #128
Thank you for the thoughtful response merrily. blue14u Dec 2013 #141
Enough. merrily Dec 2013 #124
Actually it was 72 days: stopbush Dec 2013 #139
The Presidency's power treestar Dec 2013 #38
Obama had a super majority for only 24 working days. SunSeeker Dec 2013 #48
"... the blue dogs wouldn't budge--they were in fear of their red districts back home ... Scuba Dec 2013 #57
+1 Phlem Dec 2013 #63
I agree Scuba... blue14u Dec 2013 #107
"Wonder how those blue dogs would have fared had they embraced some true progressive issues..." SunSeeker Dec 2013 #118
What was Halter's "decidedly progressive" platform? Did it include .... Scuba Dec 2013 #130
Halter was well to the left of Lincoln, had labor support, yet he lost in the Dem primary. SunSeeker Dec 2013 #142
Sounds progressive, but only a tiny bit so. Certainly nothing to excite the disaffected. Scuba Dec 2013 #143
The GOP will win if we insist on your criteria--Elizabeth Warren doesn't even meet them SunSeeker Dec 2013 #144
They aren't my criteria. They're all very popular positions across the electorate. Scuba Dec 2013 #146
Don't blame the electorate for your purity test. nt SunSeeker Dec 2013 #147
I agree. Also the blue dogs forced him to accept a stimulus package which was politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2013 #72
Yes, and THIS is what has upset liberals - who absolutely have his back... polichick Dec 2013 #131
. libodem Dec 2013 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author tblue Dec 2013 #7
Bravo! K&R nt MrScorpio Dec 2013 #8
I second your "Bravo" and add a "Holy Shit, Schaeffer TOOK IT THERE" Number23 Dec 2013 #75
Yup... SidDithers Dec 2013 #101
Yeah, the "left" is always to blame.... BULLSHIT!!!!! MNBrewer Dec 2013 #10
+1 Phlem Dec 2013 #93
Show me where Frank Schaeffer said that, please. nt Hekate Dec 2013 #115
rec demgrrrll Dec 2013 #11
... 2naSalit Dec 2013 #12
wow, what a whiny pile of crap. Vattel Dec 2013 #13
+1 MNBrewer Dec 2013 #108
Wow just WOW Autumn Dec 2013 #14
Obama Failures Front And Center - Coddles Banks - Panders To Wall Street - Supports Drones - Blesses NSA - Driving TPP cantbeserious Dec 2013 #15
I don't view Obama as a victim, he's the President and it comes with the job, furthermore Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #16
This deserves emphasis Yo_Mama Dec 2013 #45
If you hold his feet to the fire then Phlem Dec 2013 #66
If he wants the left to admire him, he should move to the left. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #18
The left does admire him. great white snark Dec 2013 #37
I'm a Democrat and a leftist. I don't. And, as you can see on DU there are a lot of us. Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #39
yep. Phlem Dec 2013 #68
I don't always agree with this President, jazzimov Dec 2013 #19
This AgingAmerican Dec 2013 #20
Give 'em enough rope.... grahamhgreen Dec 2013 #21
Ugly truths DonCoquixote Dec 2013 #22
+1 Phlem Dec 2013 #69
recommended nt arely staircase Dec 2013 #24
this article is so on-point, I want to cry. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2013 #25
Hope somebody sends this to Chris Matthews. madamesilverspurs Dec 2013 #26
I agree this is their method, but I don't think it is racism Chrom Dec 2013 #28
I'm convinced it's all based on racism. They hate whites who aren't racists. Zen Democrat Dec 2013 #30
Now that is an interesting perspective. Number23 Dec 2013 #76
What they ARE is classic "Control Freaks" lashing out because their authority is under assault. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #34
They attacked Clinton the same way. AlbertCat Dec 2013 #104
I agree, but they were relentless against Clinton. pacalo Dec 2013 #113
Wow. Drunken Irishman Dec 2013 #29
This malaise Dec 2013 #32
Covered here... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #33
Calling Obama's experience a "lynching" is disrespectful to the memory of victims of real lynchings. Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #35
What do you think was behind the uproar over his selfie with the blonde Danish PM? SunSeeker Dec 2013 #50
If it had been Bill and Hillary Clinton, or Joe and Jill Biden, Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #51
the reaction would have been the same. AlbertCat Dec 2013 #105
You ignore the tone of the attacks, not to mention the exponential increase in death threats. SunSeeker Dec 2013 #119
A hated airhead compares debt to slavery, and a favored journalist compares criticism to lynching... cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #86
I do agree with that. AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #133
The morons went after Clinton with equal hate and vigor 1000words Dec 2013 #40
And they actually impeached him (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #53
I don't remember anyone criticizing Clinton from the left Enthusiast Dec 2013 #54
I wasn't referring to the left 1000words Dec 2013 #58
I apologize. I misunderstood. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #65
It's all good. I didn't communicate it very well. 1000words Dec 2013 #67
What I've been basically saying for 6 years. VPStoltz Dec 2013 #41
Yep: How dare he return to his home state? It's so, you know, full of intermarried brown people. Hekate Dec 2013 #116
Thank you for posting that. It needs to be said. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2013 #43
"Obama will be revered by Democrats" I've said that same thing so many times Number23 Dec 2013 #80
I'm not buying it. Yo_Mama Dec 2013 #44
Plus one. Thank you. Finally a post I agree with. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #49
+1 (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #52
“The Obama administration is dedicated to increasing terrorism” ucrdem Dec 2013 #55
You didn't make a rational argument against Chomsky's then, either. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #61
No, that's not lynching at all Yo_Mama Dec 2013 #96
Yes it's hyperbole, but it wouldn't be the first time someone used hyperbole to make a point politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2013 #77
Yeah, I remembered that. Yo_Mama Dec 2013 #97
+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2013 #92
OP is trying to have it both ways with disgusting pretzel logic BrotherIvan Dec 2013 #59
+1 1000words Dec 2013 #60
I agree madville Dec 2013 #62
I see it here all the time BrotherIvan Dec 2013 #64
A huge plus one! nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #85
Or this, response # 66 Phlem Dec 2013 #70
I recall the "left" trying to warn that the Republicans would try to block everything... JHB Dec 2013 #82
One can only stand being called a "hair on fire alarmist" so many times. Phlem Dec 2013 #87
PLUS! this one... Enthusiast Dec 2013 #84
But come election time, you better get your leftist ass out there and vote! BrotherIvan Dec 2013 #88
Yup. Enthusiast Dec 2013 #89
Exactly! Phlem Dec 2013 #90
2 words BrotherIvan Dec 2013 #94
Heresy! Phlem Dec 2013 #95
+1 octoberlib Dec 2013 #98
I noticed that too Yo_Mama Dec 2013 #99
Thank you. Blue_In_AK Dec 2013 #122
K&R Mira Dec 2013 #71
I cry when I read this madokie Dec 2013 #73
k & r! n/t wildbilln864 Dec 2013 #74
I'm sorry GladRagDahl Dec 2013 #78
Exactly what I think. Nt DevonRex Dec 2013 #79
Brilliant, just Brilliant; Mr. Schaeffer BrainMann1 Dec 2013 #83
HUGE K&R BumRushDaShow Dec 2013 #91
"And did the “enlightened” Left have President Obama’s back? No."... SidDithers Dec 2013 #100
Did the president have the backs of the Left? No..... Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2013 #120
the disgusting southern right wing rubes from the former slave states that have tried to belittle... AlbertCat Dec 2013 #103
The abusive treatment of President Obama is a national shame and disgrace. NBachers Dec 2013 #109
And It's Time To Start Naming Names DallasNE Dec 2013 #110
You lost me at lynching. It's absolutely no different than McCain playing the Hitler card. WowSeriously Dec 2013 #111
That makes for such painful reading. The Sunday morning gasbags were at it again... Hekate Dec 2013 #114
Sorry, criticizing a POTUS does not = lynching him merrily Dec 2013 #121
The GOP has ZERO solutions, so they have to resort to this sh!t slinging. In reality, the righties blkmusclmachine Dec 2013 #129
Good article. It's a tad more complex, also, though. AverageJoe90 Dec 2013 #132
Wow! gollygee Dec 2013 #134
The Truth CaptCaribbean Dec 2013 #135
Hyperbolic angsty bullshit much? Decaffeinated Dec 2013 #136
K&R sheshe2 Dec 2013 #137
More like a lynching of liberalism! raindaddy Dec 2013 #138
K&R Bobbie Jo Dec 2013 #140
Add my late K&R to the list. n/t FSogol Dec 2013 #145
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