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seabeyond

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176. this is school and school record and documentation. not law. we dont know. maybe they put
Sat Dec 14, 2013, 10:19 PM
Dec 2013

misconduct and then explanation. that would work also. i do not really care. but... i think it cannot be lumped in with rough housing.

K & R Katashi_itto Dec 2013 #1
... Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #2
Are you aware of the facts of this situation? gollygee Dec 2013 #3
So by your defintion Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #6
I think that those men who wish to retreat from society should just go ahead and do so. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #18
Hear, hear. Habibi Dec 2013 #29
Your situation is different from the boy's. pnwmom Dec 2013 #34
Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #40
How about you read a little bit about what was really going on? idwiyo Dec 2013 #41
Then the next time a 14 year old is charged with murder and tried as an adult, please don't ... 11 Bravo Dec 2013 #67
the kid does not have a jacket, no charges made, mom should not get ass kicked... seabeyond Dec 2013 #69
Thanks. I had read that the kid did have a jacket, and I'm glad to hear that he does not. 11 Bravo Dec 2013 #72
i hear ya. i am really that angry about it, too. we talk about child abuse and we see it in violent seabeyond Dec 2013 #74
Who the hell said that boy should be CHARGED with anything? Where did you get it from? idwiyo Dec 2013 #77
He has no such thing. Please stop the melodrama MattBaggins Dec 2013 #108
More than 3 hours after I acknowledged that he did not, and ... 11 Bravo Dec 2013 #171
How do you know that he followed CC Dec 2013 #155
Because his mother has gone on record as telling the child that "boys will be boys", even after ... 11 Bravo Dec 2013 #172
Whoa. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #173
It doesn't mean he isn't following the CC Dec 2013 #191
Sexual? really? cvoogt Dec 2013 #179
Forcefull kissing & restricting a girl from playing with others is a sexual harassment. idwiyo Dec 2013 #183
his understanding DOES change what it is. cvoogt Dec 2013 #188
Harassment & bullying at least to me is very different from what is going on in this case. idwiyo Dec 2013 #204
I agree 99% cvoogt Dec 2013 #216
no one gave him sexual harassment when explaining for him to stop. he had age appropriate seabeyond Dec 2013 #219
Yup cvoogt Dec 2013 #220
Could you be conflating your First grade experience with this boy's? karynnj Dec 2013 #57
there were two boys. the teacher talked to the two boys and parents. one stopped. the other didnt seabeyond Dec 2013 #58
Thanks - I edited out things said that were unjustified karynnj Dec 2013 #60
If you think the school is teaching the boy all the wrong lessons KitSileya Dec 2013 #62
Amen. If this boy has been taught a lesson historylovr Dec 2013 #78
This happened to me when I was 10 or 11. alarimer Dec 2013 #68
+1 I did exactly that. Kick in the groin and huge black eye, after that little shit grabbed me idwiyo Dec 2013 #79
Teaching children personal space boundries MattBaggins Dec 2013 #107
every kid/person is not the same, in this case the girl DID NOT WANT IT JI7 Dec 2013 #122
Thank you. And let's call it stalking and harassment. elehhhhna Dec 2013 #21
They should have called it what it is: BULLYING Warpy Dec 2013 #167
Some kids just try out behaviors gollygee Dec 2013 #168
So you've read absolutely nothing about this story. OK. Starry Messenger Dec 2013 #4
Younger males more precisely Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #7
Nope. Starry Messenger Dec 2013 #17
This is my opinion on what I have experienced and observed around me Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #63
It is called Title 9 Starry Messenger Dec 2013 #70
Applying title 9 Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #184
You mean the opinion that is the law of the land? Starry Messenger Dec 2013 #192
We are talking about children do you have any empathy? Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #195
he was not penalized as in adult word. it was addressed age appropriate. i guess we are done here. seabeyond Dec 2013 #197
You are obviously enjoying making things up about this news item that aren't true. Starry Messenger Dec 2013 #200
Title 9 is specifically about schools gollygee Dec 2013 #193
really ? i see younger guys all the time outside with girlfriends JI7 Dec 2013 #124
i have two teenage boys that seem to be able to handle all this stuff very well. and every single seabeyond Dec 2013 #127
When a little boy repeatedly ignores requests and instructions from adults intaglio Dec 2013 #5
Then punish accordingly Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #9
At what age would you start labeling it differently? Bibliovore Dec 2013 #12
And he was, repeatedly intaglio Dec 2013 #16
No it wasn't MattBaggins Dec 2013 #110
If empathy for the girl must include an eradication of the concept of the boy's innocence of sexual sibelian Dec 2013 #8
Yes we are teaching young children all the wrong lessons Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #10
Why? intaglio Dec 2013 #19
"sexually knowledgeable at worst" - that is nothing more than a foul projection, he is SIX. sibelian Dec 2013 #76
So the fact that child victims of sexual assault often play out what happens to them with others KitSileya Dec 2013 #81
"This is because abused children know things that ordinary children do not" needed point made to seabeyond Dec 2013 #83
I agree with every word of this. polly7 Dec 2013 #84
Melodrama MattBaggins Dec 2013 #111
wow, put your hair out already and wake up. some six year olds- unfortunately- know more bettyellen Dec 2013 #121
Utterly foul? intaglio Dec 2013 #135
Apparently the girl could suffer because the boy has been 'accused' xulamaude Dec 2013 #136
No child is damaged by what people say on DU BainsBane Dec 2013 #44
I read this earlier and after thinking about it xulamaude Dec 2013 #93
Where so many people are going wrong on this case Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #11
It seems to me that the mother of the boy has been using the "sexual" component. That's CTyankee Dec 2013 #15
I have seen authorities go crazy over supposed sexual behavior between little kids Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #22
What I am saying is that the mother placed it there to begin with. CTyankee Dec 2013 #26
I have no particular disagreement with anything you say. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #55
I wish mercuryblues Dec 2013 #85
Since this boy was not placed on any sex offender registry Mariana Dec 2013 #56
Wanna bet school records go nowhere else? Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #59
Yes something like this would surface in the xulamaude Dec 2013 #75
Information fo this sort is indeed admissible in many jurisdictions. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #139
Yes, for forming their opinions xulamaude Dec 2013 #140
Yes, the expert could & probably would refer to the file in testimony. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #142
They have a right to but xulamaude Dec 2013 #145
You seem to know all about it. Why don't you inform us? Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #149
There's no need for me to explain it xulamaude Dec 2013 #151
OK--I got a little intemperate there. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #157
i guess what i am curious about, and only for reasonableness focus, not to argue.... seabeyond Dec 2013 #161
Where something like this might have weight is in the context of risk assessment. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #164
Thanks - xulamaude Dec 2013 #163
I'm really talking about recidivism risk assessment, which can play a role Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #165
I think it's important for investigators xulamaude Dec 2013 #170
personally i would have written the shit out instead of looking for a "word" to encompass it all. seabeyond Dec 2013 #174
I absoultely agree but xulamaude Dec 2013 #175
this is school and school record and documentation. not law. we dont know. maybe they put seabeyond Dec 2013 #176
It should not be lumped in with rough housing/misconduct xulamaude Dec 2013 #178
yes. people have issue with siimple language and actual definitions. so many wrap up the emotion seabeyond Dec 2013 #181
Examples please? MattBaggins Dec 2013 #114
I just happened to be cleaning out some old criminal files this afternoon. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #138
Yes - "criminal files" nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #141
The school records had been used in assessing the individuals' level of "dangerousness" Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #144
And they probably should. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #146
I'm just reporting the reality, not necessarily editorializing about it. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #150
Okay. nt xulamaude Dec 2013 #152
I find this interesting. KitSileya Dec 2013 #153
Yes, yes, and yes. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #160
Spoken like one who lacks the first fucking clue about how easily obtainable certain supposedly ... 11 Bravo Dec 2013 #82
hear hear cvoogt Dec 2013 #180
sad and stupid guappo1 Dec 2013 #13
Maybe the kid needs to be protected from the craziness of his mother. Jackpine Radical Dec 2013 #23
What? MattBaggins Dec 2013 #115
K&R tabasco Dec 2013 #14
When a little boy was REPEATEDLY told to stop but kept harassing little girl, she must be protected. idwiyo Dec 2013 #20
Let it go. pintobean Dec 2013 #24
I am glad rationality prevailed however Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #61
By the usual suspects pintobean Dec 2013 #64
since i am sure i am a "suspect" please share where any of my post is unreasonable or irrational or seabeyond Dec 2013 #71
Jeeze sea, mellow out. pintobean Dec 2013 #88
ok. yesterday i had a number of men say i am a man hater. offensive? i am thinking. i was also seabeyond Dec 2013 #90
But, I'm not a usual suspect pintobean Dec 2013 #92
but.... i did not assume. and to assume i would not take into acct (hence my respectful and seabeyond Dec 2013 #94
I take it back. pintobean Dec 2013 #101
That's nice, dear. Squinch Dec 2013 #25
Please proceed. nt LisaLynne Dec 2013 #27
Who's opting out of society? How? Orrex Dec 2013 #28
It means they're staying home and jacking off to porn. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #31
... idwiyo Dec 2013 #32
and they think the threat of this, will somehow make women more compliant and forgiving, LOL. bettyellen Dec 2013 #123
it was plain harassment and bullying magical thyme Dec 2013 #30
and then you have the enablers that are going to make sure this little boy does not learn what he seabeyond Dec 2013 #33
When I was in 4th grade, I had a teacher that accused me of it for passing a note. politichew Dec 2013 #35
Can someone enlighten me on whats gong on? iandhr Dec 2013 #36
Men are not opting out of society or from associating with women BainsBane Dec 2013 #37
What? BlueState Dec 2013 #38
They lowered it to misconduct, as someone has already mentioned Shankapotomus Dec 2013 #39
Zero Tolerance is for idiots. Iggo Dec 2013 #42
There's a big difference between school discipline and police charges radhika Dec 2013 #43
where did they involve the police or legal system? didnt happen. wow. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #46
The police was *never* involved. KitSileya Dec 2013 #48
oh, and the word "sexual harassment" wasnt involved either, until the mom gave it to the boy. look seabeyond Dec 2013 #50
Parents must communicate regardless of personal feelings Burf-_- Dec 2013 #51
no adult gave sexual harassment to the child to figure out, but the mom. the school did not give seabeyond Dec 2013 #52
Utterly wrong MattBaggins Dec 2013 #117
no... Burf-_- Dec 2013 #166
No you are wrong MattBaggins Dec 2013 #169
-_- (facepalm) Burf-_- Dec 2013 #201
You might want to actually read something about this. Because what you describe bears no resemblance Squinch Dec 2013 #54
But it's so much more fun to make shit up to be outraged about. Mariana Dec 2013 #105
Seriously. People are just pulling stuff out of their asses around here now. Squinch Dec 2013 #116
Little guy libodem Dec 2013 #45
So because one child's parent has not enforced personal space boundries MattBaggins Dec 2013 #118
The boys behavior is unacceptable and must be stopped. The only people with "risks" are future... Taitertots Dec 2013 #47
I don't believe I or my friends ever hassled girls when I was in school. It would have been a... BlueJazz Dec 2013 #49
Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #53
No tears for the little girl who was bullied and whose myrna minx Dec 2013 #65
Men's Rights types don't care one shit about what happens to women. geek tragedy Dec 2013 #100
This is wrong-headed. alarimer Dec 2013 #66
and by his own mother, no less. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #73
You seem to not know that the boy in the original story was forcefully kissing the girl. Dash87 Dec 2013 #80
The DU jury system is a mess. Two locked messages in this thread. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #86
no. it is not a thread of snark. most all are actually discussing the issue. hence, my post to seabeyond Dec 2013 #87
Okay. I could pull various examples from the thread, but... Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #89
as far as i see, it is a child development/parental issue. not gender wars. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #91
MRA talking points AND spectacular levels of stupidity. BRA-VO. *slow clap* LeftyMom Dec 2013 #95
Thread win. JTFrog Dec 2013 #112
The administrators are shockingly permissive when it comes to the MRA types on DU. demmiblue Dec 2013 #126
+1 Squinch Dec 2013 #131
Males "going their own way", from the OP xulamaude Dec 2013 #133
interesting. that is another perspective with this, i had not seen. thanks. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #134
How dare you imply MRAs are here just because DUers quote the sites, redqueen Dec 2013 #143
Libel! xulamaude Dec 2013 #148
He knows all the laws! redqueen Dec 2013 #154
repeatedly kissing someone who doesn't want it is neither affection nor empathy fishwax Dec 2013 #96
Affection has to be returned before physical affection can be given LadyHawkAZ Dec 2013 #97
should girls and women opt out also due to the high risk of rape, physical abuse, murder by mate? seabeyond Dec 2013 #98
yes the fact that he couldn't get away with serial non-sexual harassment means geek tragedy Dec 2013 #99
I don't think the little boy should be shamed or punished, ZombieHorde Dec 2013 #102
He would not have been if not for his mother MattBaggins Dec 2013 #119
While I do think the boy should be disciplined for what he did bluestateguy Dec 2013 #103
Can I just state that I am surprised at how many haven't read the articles KitSileya Dec 2013 #104
Thank you! xulamaude Dec 2013 #109
Not too much of a surprise, since there were absolutely no links to the story from the OP. phylny Dec 2013 #206
Mr melodrama climbing Mount Victimhood just to throw himself off of it MattBaggins Dec 2013 #106
Thank you. K&R quinnox Dec 2013 #113
and yet guys who don't share your view have no problems with getting into relationships with women JI7 Dec 2013 #120
I wonder if those two things are related....hmmmm..... Squinch Dec 2013 #132
affection? EMPATHY? you didn't actually read about what actually happened, I hope. bettyellen Dec 2013 #125
and then we hear our boys do not need to be educated about the rape culture cause they totally seabeyond Dec 2013 #129
+1 redqueen Dec 2013 #147
Good point about "opting out of participating" seattledo Dec 2013 #128
it s not hell or scary to meet people of the opposite sex, LOL. there are some who are bettyellen Dec 2013 #130
I am personally a grass-eater Harmony Blue Dec 2013 #185
garbage.... for so many reasons. nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #187
"Grass-eater" xulamaude Dec 2013 #189
It used to be called celibacy Major Nikon Dec 2013 #202
so, he is not having sex. he is a man. and he is telling women our sexuality and we have NO seabeyond Dec 2013 #203
From what I've just read about it, it's more like simple indifference towards women. Flatulo Dec 2013 #215
Evidence of how traditional gender roles hurt all genders. KitSileya Dec 2013 #217
Excellent comments. I'm pretty familiar with Japanese culture, having done business Flatulo Dec 2013 #218
sigh seattledo Dec 2013 #190
of course you dont as most dont now that we got away from a society that demands we do. sex is sex. seabeyond Dec 2013 #198
You are wrong about so much here. gollygee Dec 2013 #194
Wow I haven't read anything this comical in ages. Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #196
i cannot tell you how many men on du has demanded that i be emotional with sex and see as sacred. seabeyond Dec 2013 #199
Pity party, table for one. nt geek tragedy Dec 2013 #213
And when it's defended tooth and nail ... 1000words Dec 2013 #137
The dude wasn't just being affectionate. He was stalking her, cornering her, and kissing her. Ian David Dec 2013 #156
i had forgotten all about Pepé Le Pew. back in the day when it really was presented as a norm, seabeyond Dec 2013 #158
Brings more meaning to girls having cooties and are icky Lifelong Dem Dec 2013 #159
i would think what the girl experienced, that comment would apply more the reverse. that the seabeyond Dec 2013 #162
Strawman Strawman Strawman Strawman Strawman. alp227 Dec 2013 #177
k/r 840high Dec 2013 #182
Too many generalizations in the OP CFLDem Dec 2013 #186
If you can't interact with half of humanity, the problem isn't half of humanity. LeftyMom Dec 2013 #205
... Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #207
The level of hatred leveled at this little guy.. truebrit71 Dec 2013 #208
You were staggered? Sheldon Cooper Dec 2013 #209
Yes I was. truebrit71 Dec 2013 #210
one post that shows hatred toward the kid? would you like me to show a number of posts dismissing seabeyond Dec 2013 #211
It's incredible how distorted one's view can be. redqueen Dec 2013 #212
ya. you man hater, you.... nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #214
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