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Response to NoOneMan (Reply #83)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 04:19 PM

85. It is you who needs to do that, not me.

 

But do start by getting off the web, I mean permanently. Be sure to recycle that computer, cell phone, et al though. Rare metals are becoming even more rare.

And education is not, never has been, about keeping up with the Chinese. If that was the case, a much lower percentage of the US population would live in cities, have access to health care, or have any degree of even the most basic of education. Nor would our average family size be 2.2 children. But, I am proof positive you missed that. This is the fallacy you are presenting.

I am dead serious, you are so committed to that ludite life style, turn off your computer and never turn it back on. Find a nice place in the woods, sell all you have and move there. Don't forget the solar cell, oh never mind, that burns fuel in the production process. I guess a human powered bicycle generator should work. It is less energy intensive, though not quite neutral.

For the record I have done work in a farm, and I can tell you this, it is far from romantic. You seem to think we need to go back at least 300 years tech wise, I guarantee a population crash the likes we have not seen since at least the Black Death.

We are headed for one, likely, but I prefer to work in reality, and that includes people with training in the sciences, which you seem to think are not necessary, to at least try to soften the blow. We also need politicians not married to industry willing to listen to these people who have been screaming about the damage we are doing, and going no to a certain pipeline, for example. Oh that guy has a PhD so please do ignore him and 350.org. He's got the cuties since he can do advanced differential equations, and understands physics as it relates to weather systems and climate change.

I do not see you as an ally. I see you as a quaint curiosity who is rejecting, but not really since it is not that convenient, modern life. You are blaming education in things like trigonometry and calc, and statistics and English lit for consumerism, which is a strange argument. One man bears most of the blame for the modern system by the way, Mr. Barnays himself. There was no statistics involved in this, just manipulation of the highest order of the human psyche, which has been refined since he walked the Earth.

But your argument that schools lead to crass consumption and we should stop doing that is beyond strange. With that, have a good day.

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