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In reply to the discussion: When ideals collide... porn vs. feminism [View all]Kurska
(5,739 posts)111. 10/10, best post I've seen on this topic. n/t
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While dodging your original and interesting question, let me just say this...
Democracyinkind
Nov 2013
#2
I am a bit confused by your assertion comparing pornography to rape pornography..
madinmaryland
Nov 2013
#33
I understand what you are trying to say, I just think tying 1st amendment to Laissez-fairism
stevenleser
Nov 2013
#11
i agree. i have never suggest banning, regardless of the strawman always thrown out. education,
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#44
wow woman. i am saying the smae in a subthread below. isnt that interesting. i addressed the
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#86
I think you also unintentionally phrased your OP in a very heteronormative way
stevenleser
Nov 2013
#10
At what jobs is it legal to actually hurt another person for pleasure and pay?
Tumbulu
Dec 2013
#177
I find it intriguing that sports injuries are rationalized as "he knew what he was getting into"
lumberjack_jeff
Dec 2013
#208
I'm still trying to get past your thread title, frankly. Pornography is an "ideal"? Where? Pompeii?
WinkyDink
Nov 2013
#15
Great post. Whatever the problems at hand, state tyranny of any kind is not the answer.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#93
"I don't find a broad overlap between those who constantly talk about the harm of porn
xulamaude
Nov 2013
#130
i think HUMAN BEING trumps a piece of paper. and we are talking world wide, not just
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#32
funny. like that compares to abuse rape enslavement coercion death. and again, as i said in post
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#57
post 32 is the reality. fact. we are comparing the constitution to the abuse, coercion, rape,
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#62
cause, i have only explained it for about mmmm, years. and because we have had a week of many
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#69
And yet we are still no closer to establishing cause and effect relationships to those who consent
Major Nikon
Nov 2013
#72
see. cause this is not what i am going to do. i am not going thru this shit again.
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#83
Your posts are a perfect example of the strawman argument mentioned in the OP.
Threedifferentones
Nov 2013
#152
The argument might well be that when fictional representations of rape and abuse
el_bryanto
Nov 2013
#157
About as far away as a person who enjoys watching horror movies enjoys actually murdering people.
EOTE
Dec 2013
#215
You didn't suggest that people who would watch such things would be likely to do such things?
EOTE
Dec 2013
#218
here is the point where so many fail. i ercognize the very real deal of it all, and can
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#82
When you can't tell one from the other. When the one is *presented* as the other.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#94
I can see what you're saying. But I still think that, with the amount of *real* rape/torture footage
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#101
No they should not, and we as liberals do work to continually improve worker safety matters
Tumbulu
Dec 2013
#179
Rape Porn is a Narrowly Defined Subset of Porn. Rape is Illegal. Rape is Violence.
Tuesday Afternoon
Nov 2013
#36
so then, is it fair to say that, you are for deregulation of both industries?
Tuesday Afternoon
Nov 2013
#43
Do you think Rape Porn depicts an act of sex (a sex scene) or an act of violence?
Tuesday Afternoon
Nov 2013
#48
I don't understand the multiple guns fear thing. I only have two arms.
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2013
#170
There's also those of us concerned with work place conditions and remuneration etc.
KittyWampus
Nov 2013
#47
Do you think a person can give legal consent while under the influence of drugs or alcohol?
Tuesday Afternoon
Nov 2013
#49
Or kidnapped and forced. Or dominated and controlled. We can't make it simple cause it is not.
seabeyond
Nov 2013
#51
But on the other hand, being anti-free speech isn't generally seen as progressive. With good reason.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#96
Pornography, much like retail shopping, is not problematic in and of itself...
Hippo_Tron
Nov 2013
#64
There are things we shouldn't do or are not allowed to do no matter how much money is offered.
Evoman
Nov 2013
#76
shouldnt i be able to decide to work for Walmart for ten cents an hour? Its my body
Evoman
Nov 2013
#122
If porn is considered an "ideal," civilization really has scraped rock bottom. n/t
duffyduff
Nov 2013
#92
I think you're probably right. One could argue that it's a matter of raising greater awareness -
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#124
Seems like more than a few, and only a few are calling bullshit when they do
Major Nikon
Nov 2013
#150
I agree completely with the Friedan quote. And for the most part I'm strongly anti-censorship.
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#156
Oh, absolutely. I certainly don't subscribe to any "porn causes rape" theory - other than
nomorenomore08
Nov 2013
#161
I find it oddly ironic that your extremely non-responsive response to my response
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2013
#145
I personally don't have a desire to attack "rape porn" for the following reasons:
Dash87
Nov 2013
#129
Progressive ideals? I'm not sure that's the point in a lot of this...
TreasonousBastard
Dec 2013
#172
As BainsBane said upthread, the intellectual/philisophical justification for porn...
YoungDemCA
Dec 2013
#178
So the ONLY things that are valuable are those which benefit society? What a crock.
Warren DeMontague
Dec 2013
#233
I do not think that someone consenting to do something that hurts or maims them
Tumbulu
Dec 2013
#203