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Sun Nov 24, 2013, 04:30 PM

18. but even our oligopoly capitalism is not designed that way

you say "to the capitalists". Well, who is a capitalist? Some 19 million people have their own business, which, often, like my own two businesses, does not make that much money.

But workers are sometimes working for very small concerns. Three or four people probably work for my brother in law. Four or five people work at my dentists office. Across the country that amounts to hundreds of thousands of workers. And there are many different levels of government jobs that workers can get.

So I don't see how you divide the world into "workers" and "owners", and then speak about what the owners "know".

Since the economy continues to grow, it is certainly NOT a zero sum game. However, it is true, even in a positive sum game (where the pot, like in our economy) is growing, one person or one group can try to snatch up all the gains for themselves, but still with a growin pot, it is possible for both sides to gain. That isn't true with a stable or shrinking pot.

And in some ways, we as worker/consumers are gaining/have gained. For one, we have many more consumer items. And for two, we do have better working conditions. I doubt if my grandfather's factory had any kind of air conditioning, for example. My first two jobs did NOT have "smoke free" workplaces.

I just think it is too cynical to give up and say "it MUST be a war".

But you are right in that, to a large degree, the OTHER side, insofar as there is one, is fighting it. I say we flex our muscles and bloody their nose until they realize it's a battle that they do not want.

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