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Sun Nov 24, 2013, 12:17 PM

14. This might be an "agree to disagree" moment.....

My last word on the subject: It's not really me that you have to convince, it's the owners. And the owners KNOW what I'm saying is true. They KNOW that if the workers win in ANYTHING, they (the owners) lose. Now are there exceptions? Sure this is economics, not chemistry. But overall, this is what the system of capitalism calls for and over the long run this is what the system of capitalism will get. And as long as workers cling to the illusion that it's anything OTHER than a zero-sum game, workers will continue to lose.

Edited to add: As to your last paragraph, government employees would be considered an adjunct to capitalism, not really part of the system itself. To the capitalists, it's also a, mostly, unnecessary adjunct, something to be gotten rid ASAP. As to why a boss in a government job would be a problem, that has to do with the social conditioning under capitalism. It's a hierarchical system with power at the top. Even in government jobs, bosses wouldn't be immune to this societal norm.

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