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oldhippie

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43. So you are Ok with people not paying their property taxes .....

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Fri Nov 15, 2013, 04:14 PM

Nov 2013

... if they "didn't understand they had to"? You just let them slide?

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Kentucky 75-year-old's house seized, sold over $288 unpaid HOA dues [View all] Newsjock Nov 2013 OP

"the association did not know anyone lived at the house." progressoid Nov 2013 #1

WOW. reddread Nov 2013 #2

I could NEVER live ANYWHERE there was an HOA. bvar22 Nov 2013 #3

+100000 woo me with science Nov 2013 #134

Sorry folks jehop61 Nov 2013 #4

$288 dollars? Not like I could sell her house! reddread Nov 2013 #5

I'd pretend I was a human being and have a bit of common sense Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #6

I too jehop61 Nov 2013 #8

really? how many houses have you seen sold out from under the rightful owner for $288? reddread Nov 2013 #9

$288 dollars is probably less than five percent of the value of her dwelling. Gormy Cuss Nov 2013 #15

Less then 5%? defacto7 Nov 2013 #33

.5% is less than 5% Gormy Cuss Nov 2013 #109

Businesses cannot sue in Small Claims Court. And I'm sure there was a lien for years Demeter Nov 2013 #94

"...pushed the system too far..." 99Forever Nov 2013 #99

Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #100

"The system" is rigged. 99Forever Nov 2013 #101

"Steal" is right Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #135

No one stole from her, she stole from her neighbors... Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #141

Is there some part of ... 99Forever Nov 2013 #143

Proportional justice would have been her paying her bills... Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #145

Two hundred and eighty-eight dollars is a trivial lien. Gormy Cuss Nov 2013 #110

Cheated on $48 a year? brush Nov 2013 #114

Yep. She's a con artist and manipulator who got burned by her own games. nt Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #140

So...you think she should lose her home ovee $288.00? noiretextatique Nov 2013 #17

Garnish her income or sue her and have funds from her bank account turned over functioning_cog Nov 2013 #31

Based on what? jeff47 Nov 2013 #40

Yes, they can garnish. If they sue in court one of the remedies assigned by the judge can be wage Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #48

It happens all the time for things that aren't your house. jeff47 Nov 2013 #50

Not true. When my mom was dying of cancer...her finances were in disarray. Her HOA Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #51

It's probably a state-by-state difference jeff47 Nov 2013 #52

Rules are for little people ... oldhippie Nov 2013 #37

First, she's an immigrant so she may not have understood the HOA agreements she signed. Also, as a okaawhatever Nov 2013 #7

Generous. Magnanimous. Good-will. LanternWaste Nov 2013 #12

Appalling, isn't it? noiretextatique Nov 2013 #21

Then what should have happened? jeff47 Nov 2013 #32

They could have gone to small claims court. former9thward Nov 2013 #55

Not in all jurisdictions jeff47 Nov 2013 #59

Are you really advocating taking the woman's house over $288 . . . brush Nov 2013 #115

Do you always ignore what you agree to do? jeff47 Nov 2013 #117

So you're still advocating they sell her house from under her? brush Nov 2013 #129

He sneers and rubs his hands in glee Generic Other Nov 2013 #131

And what eventually happens to Snidely Whiplash? Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #132

Yeah, clearly the HOA should have stationed someone at her door jeff47 Nov 2013 #149

Then explain exactly what they should have done instead. jeff47 Nov 2013 #148

And you sound heartless Generic Other Nov 2013 #150

Name calling does not create a solution. jeff47 Nov 2013 #151

I am not calling you a name Generic Other Nov 2013 #152

Corporations cannot use small claims court in Michigan. They must go to District Court Demeter Nov 2013 #93

They could have taken her to small claims court Marrah_G Nov 2013 #153

Only humans can go to small claims court. The HOA is a corporation. jeff47 Nov 2013 #154

Businesses take people to small claims all the time. Marrah_G Nov 2013 #155

Sole proprietorships, partnerships and other business arrangements do. jeff47 Nov 2013 #156

Somebody thought they could pull a fast one Mopar151 Nov 2013 #130

Best post in the thread. woo me with science Nov 2013 #26

Aren't they required to get someone to hand-serve the eviction/sale notice? haele Nov 2013 #20

The exact details depend on the state. jeff47 Nov 2013 #45

It was not a trailer park Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #46

That's why I edited it. $48 a year is a damn low HOA even for the South. haele Nov 2013 #58

Taking a woman's house for a $300 debt is inexcusable. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2013 #61

Fuck HOA MattBaggins Nov 2013 #75

I'd sue her in small claims court KamaAina Nov 2013 #82

LOL, 387, posts. Hmmmmmm. n-t Logical Nov 2013 #84

Get real! brush Nov 2013 #112

Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #123

Yeah, I don't think I'd SELL HER HOUSE to recover $288... sibelian Nov 2013 #133

So, you think that for a measly 300 bucks DiverDave Nov 2013 #138

So she should lose her home for a bill >$300? Seriously? How about small claims court first? uppityperson Nov 2013 #147

I have no sympathy for the snoots that live in HOA-controlled neighborhoods. nt HijackedLabel Nov 2013 #10

we're not snoots. We live in a very normal ($125-200K homes), but the builder started the HOA NightWatcher Nov 2013 #13

I imagine may people predicate their sympathies on zip codes rather than on the people themselves LanternWaste Nov 2013 #14

Went house-hunting a few years ago - every development w/i 20 years has an HOA. SomeGuyInEagan Nov 2013 #36

HOAs aren't the only way laundry_queen Nov 2013 #81

They are EVERYWHERE now Stargazer09 Nov 2013 #49

Then you don't know much. Most new developments have HOA set up by developer Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #53

It might be different in other areas... HijackedLabel Nov 2013 #57

And so what if they are doctors, lawyers, engineers or whatever? penultimate Nov 2013 #72

It did. Here in Houston, where there is no zoning, HOAs are sort of necessary. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #87

*rollseyes* penultimate Nov 2013 #71

She threw away the notices Beaverhausen Nov 2013 #11

So she threw away multiple notices, and multiple court summons jeff47 Nov 2013 #16

Do you think the HOA is entitled to her home noiretextatique Nov 2013 #18

I think the HOA is entitled to enforce the agreement she signed when she bought it. jeff47 Nov 2013 #22

Heartless... noiretextatique Nov 2013 #25

Golly, I'm so surprised that you followed up with a personal attack. jeff47 Nov 2013 #30

So you are Ok with people not paying their property taxes ..... oldhippie Nov 2013 #43

Property taxes are equal to a private organization's bill? former9thward Nov 2013 #56

The private organization's bill was a result of a contract .... oldhippie Nov 2013 #74

She was kind of dumb, especially for a businesswoman treestar Nov 2013 #144

Heartless is a start. Downright cruel gets closer to the mark. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2013 #63

Reaalllly??? DragonBorn Nov 2013 #62

In most jurisdictions, small claims court is only available to people. jeff47 Nov 2013 #67

An HOA is a corporation DragonBorn Nov 2013 #69

Being a corporation means not being able to use small claims court. jeff47 Nov 2013 #70

Penalities and interest should have been enough to rectify the problem imho nt snappyturtle Nov 2013 #83

She wasn't paying them. How would they get penalties and interest? (nt) jeff47 Nov 2013 #89

Late payment fees....the HOA obviously expected her to pay, so snappyturtle Nov 2013 #90

And since she was not paying them, those fees an interest would be collected....how? jeff47 Nov 2013 #104

What I'm saying is that instead of taking her home they could snappyturtle Nov 2013 #113

And what you've failed to explain is how doing that causes her to start paying. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2013 #118

Well, let me guess....1) Lose home OR 2) pay penalties and interest. eodiscussion snappyturtle Nov 2013 #120

So....it would have been OK to foreclose if there were penalties and interest involved? jeff47 Nov 2013 #121

I could be wrong... Captain Stern Nov 2013 #34

Doubtful functioning_cog Nov 2013 #38

It actually turns out I was right. Captain Stern Nov 2013 #41

Yes, I was going to add that. From the post, i thought she didn't get a dime sammytko Nov 2013 #68

They don't get her home Sgent Nov 2013 #73

I read the article, the warning order lawyer warned them she hadn't been notified. haele Nov 2013 #65

HOA Dues and Disclosures bpj62 Nov 2013 #19

Thank you! It is calculated...and deplorable noiretextatique Nov 2013 #24

"Frustrated power hungry people" Stargazer09 Nov 2013 #47

BS! Demeter Nov 2013 #95

According to the article lancer78 Nov 2013 #146

HOAs are micro epitomes CFLDem Nov 2013 #23

i wouldnt even take one of romneys houses Garion_55 Nov 2013 #28

this is why I truly hate the nazi like beings on HOA's. Javaman Nov 2013 #27

There must be more to the story. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #29

It's still immoral what they did. Imagine if you paid cash for a house functioning_cog Nov 2013 #35

Due diligence. Also, the court notices should have been a clue. geek tragedy Nov 2013 #39

Imagine if you signed a contract to do work for someone and they refused to pay you. Sirveri Nov 2013 #116

Disclosure of an HOA, its fees and by laws when a house is sold is mandatory in KY REP Nov 2013 #44

Someone connected to her HOA stands to make some money... defacto7 Nov 2013 #42

When you buy a house with a HOA you by law get a upaloopa Nov 2013 #54

This one happened several years ago. Travesty. searchingforlight Nov 2013 #60

There is a law to protect homeowners serving in the military. Demeter Nov 2013 #103

sad. Hopefully this act will be reversed. Liberal_in_LA Nov 2013 #64

Perhaps the takeaway here should be always open your mail. SheilaT Nov 2013 #66

I hate HOAs... penultimate Nov 2013 #76

Ignorance and/or stupidity often has consequences ..... oldhippie Nov 2013 #77

I'm the vice-president of our HOA Nevernose Nov 2013 #78

The remedy should have been to place a lein against the house Major Nikon Nov 2013 #96

I can believe it. Mariana Nov 2013 #107

I hate HOA's, but you can't just throw away envelopes imprinted with the words... lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #79

These days I look at them as a necessary evil Major Nikon Nov 2013 #97

I've been lucky... and kind of tolerant too, I suppose. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #105

I was raised on a farm, so I know all about that Major Nikon Nov 2013 #108

We had a similar event in Texas and I do not recall the details, she had some attorneys jump in Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #80

The HOA could have done more Mz Pip Nov 2013 #85

Normally I avoid a HOA like the plague. IrishAyes Nov 2013 #86

The home owner is responsible for this. gerogie1 Nov 2013 #88

Are you the president of the HOA in question? Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #92

that is so fucked up gopiscrap Nov 2013 #91

It would be completely stupid to buy a house where there is no HOA. gulliver Nov 2013 #98

You may be stunned to know that people have survived without HOAs for Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #102

You can say the same about flush toilets Major Nikon Nov 2013 #111

I'm willing to bet most housing stock in this country isn't under HOA's. TwilightGardener Nov 2013 #106

You're really out of touch with the average American, aren't you? Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #119

In what way? gulliver Nov 2013 #124

"It would be completely stupid to buy a house where there is no HOA." Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #125

But without HOAs its chaos!!!!! ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #127

Heh. You really are out of touch with how most of America lives. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #136

School me on your qualifications to judge. gulliver Nov 2013 #137

Well let's see... Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #139

You're right. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2013 #126

Then please don't move in next to me. Mopar151 Nov 2013 #128

"zoning" is a pretty good substitute for a HOA. JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2013 #157

I'd like to think that they would do the right thing... Lancero Nov 2013 #122

that's why I'll never buy a house treestar Nov 2013 #142