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In reply to the discussion: God damn it. How the hell do you get blindsided by your own f%$#@*g legislation??? [View all]cali
(114,904 posts)90. You have no problem putting words in my mouth that are as wrong as wrong could be
I do not hate the ACA. I support it.
Furthermore, I have always said that the political will for single payer just wasn't there.
Your apology is awaited.
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God damn it. How the hell do you get blindsided by your own f%$#@*g legislation??? [View all]
WilliamPitt
Nov 2013
OP
Maybe if the insurance commissioners had done their jobs in the past, we wouldn't need this.
Hoyt
Nov 2013
#248
A law requiring insurance companies to extend policies may be unconstitutional.
FarCenter
Nov 2013
#33
He has the regulatory authority to rewrite the regs that made the policies not grandfathered
Yo_Mama
Nov 2013
#61
There is a GOP-sponsored House bill and a Democrat-sponsored Senate Bill in the works
Gore1FL
Nov 2013
#168
Not all of the canceled plans are *junk*. I'm growing a bit weary of this talking point. Some of
SlimJimmy
Nov 2013
#162
thank you for that post - it really is just a talking point now and way too simplified at best.
covadcalifornia
Nov 2013
#176
Welcome to DU. I can tell you than many here will defend the ACA until death. The problem is
SlimJimmy
Nov 2013
#241
Even on DU, many people don't want to pay more for the good of those poorer than them
Democat
Nov 2013
#80
The insurance industry purposefully conflated issues of their profits with our altruism.
Romulox
Nov 2013
#95
and just how do you think that will happen? The media has already brainwashed the public with
lostincalifornia
Nov 2013
#58
Well, it doesn't help when the only plan being pushed was the Heritage Foundation's brainchild
NuclearDem
Nov 2013
#62
Let me make it clear, I wish we had single payer. However, there was no way it was going to happen.
lostincalifornia
Nov 2013
#66
I agree! Why not stand up and fight for the ACA? Why not stand up to the fucking insurance industry?
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#97
I'm talking about what the ACA does to keep the industry in check. While not perfect, it at least
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#179
In theory, yes, but not all in practice. Not all insurance companies did that. The ACA mandates that
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#184
That may be true, then why don't they vote for representatives that favor single payer?
lostincalifornia
Nov 2013
#104
"Hillarycare" ended up winning but she didn't. Why? And Hillycare lost bigtime in 1994. I agree that
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#183
That is the best description and explanation I have heard on this issue.
lostincalifornia
Nov 2013
#239
Why not Medicare for Everyone. The system is already in place and who doesn't like Medicare?
SammyWinstonJack
Nov 2013
#82
It is CHEAPER than insurance. No profit. You pay tax instead of premiums. Simple.
RBInMaine
Nov 2013
#215
The Myth of the War of the Worlds Panic <You mean the real history, or the myth?
jtuck004
Nov 2013
#144
I think the way the law was written caused many policies to get caught in a bigger net
TwilightGardener
Nov 2013
#12
They didn't. This is the insurance companies cancelling policies and using ACA as cover.
yellowcanine
Nov 2013
#13
I agree with this. Because Obama is apologizing for something that he has no reason to apologize for
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#189
I laugh at your supposed knowledge on this subject. You have no idea what you're talking about
Pretzel_Warrior
Nov 2013
#122
keep in mind that your point of view is not universal, nor necessarily true for anyone
Voice for Peace
Nov 2013
#132
Even if the rollout had gone much more smoothly, they'd amplify and trumpet ANYTHING
TwilightGardener
Nov 2013
#27
But the cancellations mean they'll have to handle a few hundred thousand enrollments a day
FarCenter
Nov 2013
#31
Right--that's why it was a one-two punch the administration didn't see coming.
TwilightGardener
Nov 2013
#36
I kind of have to discount anything you say, because you've been cheerleading for ACA failure
TwilightGardener
Nov 2013
#47
No. Bill Clinton made things much worse. He should shut up and sit down somewhere.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#190
I'm not. I'd rather people with shit plans pay 10x more for new policies...
HijackedLabel
Nov 2013
#28
Someone really needed to make sure the launch was perfect...or pretty damn close...
joeybee12
Nov 2013
#41
Actually, political fear of mistakes was a major part of the flawed end-product.
TwilightGardener
Nov 2013
#42
Private insurers are the absolute worst feature of US healthcare. Who thought mandating a purchase
Romulox
Nov 2013
#43
No one could have predicted that private insurers and Republicans would bork the ACA rollout
Fumesucker
Nov 2013
#46
But if we mandate you to pay weekly fees to muggers in your neighborhood, they won't be as violent!
JVS
Nov 2013
#173
Settle the fuck down. Remember the rolling disaster of Iraq? THAT'S a quagmire
Pretzel_Warrior
Nov 2013
#63
I'm pretty sure that in 2009 they chose 2013 and later implementation dates for a reason
FarCenter
Nov 2013
#73
You don't matter, nor do the tens of millions of working poor about to be hammered...
Demo_Chris
Nov 2013
#127
You can read it here as well. We need to scrap this crap and get single payer. nt
Demo_Chris
Nov 2013
#206
you keep making this point but I'm wondering if you have laid it all out here so we can know what
Voice for Peace
Nov 2013
#147
oooh intriguing.. it must be an evil conspiracy theory if it's banned here
Voice for Peace
Nov 2013
#149
It's not like the Heritage Foundation was the first or only national health care plan put in writing
libdem4life
Nov 2013
#87
Which legislators wrote the bill? And why are they allowing Obama to take the blame for it?
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#96
When the president signs the bill he has ultimate responsibility for it. n/t
totodeinhere
Nov 2013
#119
Because they didn't spend months running around the country lying about what it said...
Demo_Chris
Nov 2013
#148
I think the ACA is better than what was before, but blaming it on lobbyists is bull. Politicians
lostincalifornia
Nov 2013
#118
The same way they were so utterly surprised that red states would turn down Medicaid expansion. n/t
winter is coming
Nov 2013
#108
It looks even worse when, if you think back, repukes were claiming people were going
hughee99
Nov 2013
#136
I think they just underestimated the volume to which the small number of individual plans
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2013
#146
He needs to direct that to Bill Clinton who still holds a grudge that this black man won!
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#191
Why are people acting like this is another Great Betrayal by the Master Spelunker?
Whisp
Nov 2013
#160
re:God damn it. How the hell do you get blindsided by your own f%$#@*g legislation??? View profile
allan01
Nov 2013
#156
You mean smartest-man-in-the-room Obama and his Ivy League administration...
WorseBeforeBetter
Nov 2013
#192
The hurricanes started somplace else, like the east coast, and blew a big bunch of wind
fadedrose
Nov 2013
#198
Yes, they did indeed write it. The problem though, is that they did not READ it after they wrote it.
Chuck Smythe
Nov 2013
#217
You get blindsided when the Teabagging Press start yelping to satisfy their corporate masters.
tsuki
Nov 2013
#220
Saying "insurance companies wrote it" (or like it) is like saying "politicians" did
Recursion
Nov 2013
#230