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100. Two things: First, 18-22 year old Facebook pages are not even remotely close...

Fri Nov 8, 2013, 03:46 PM

Nov 2013

to being a good cross section of a specific society.

Second, I am between the age of 18 and 24 and I can tell you that there is very little difference between a good cross section of society and said Facebook pages. The pages are plastered with all sorts of gender inequities.

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A very quick comment on the diffusion of white, male privilege... [View all] Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 OP

what is the point of your post? Most all here acknowledge white privilege and male privilege Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #1

You missed the point. You don't have to be a bad guy to be a part of the problem. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #2

yes. that is part of institutional racism. people who stand by and let privilege rule. however, Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #7

The OP is talking about much more subtle effects of privilege. jeff47 Nov 2013 #14

And that makes you a bad guy per the OP upaloopa Nov 2013 #31

No, it doesn't. jeff47 Nov 2013 #53

^THIS NuclearDem Nov 2013 #61

I must have said this a hundred times here at DU upaloopa Nov 2013 #124

No, it doesn't. Please reread my OP before commenting further. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #58

Now there is real collective guilt! upaloopa Nov 2013 #29

Those are your words, not mine. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #34

That's just what you said. upaloopa Nov 2013 #36

Yeah, that's not what I said. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #38

Thats the opposite of what the op said. Bradical79 Nov 2013 #101

no, they don't. i have seen a gazillion post denying any privilege of any group La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #3

+1000 ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #5

+2 YoungDemCA Nov 2013 #21

Another +1 gollygee Nov 2013 #41

maybe because privilege is used in an odd way here hfojvt Nov 2013 #76

the word privilege in the context of social science literature La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #86

it is the fault of social scientists hfojvt Nov 2013 #114

no, it's not. people borrow things from academia without context/definitions all the time La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #116

+1 uponit7771 Nov 2013 #90

You are correct.. whathehell Nov 2013 #106

OP makes the point 'good guy/bad guy' is irrelevant leftstreet Nov 2013 #4

A sizable minority does not BainsBane Nov 2013 #19

More of that persecution complex nonsense. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #44

All true, btw. AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #52

Well PW … 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2013 #49

Privilege is invisible until it is threatened, you mean Warpy Nov 2013 #6

Yes healthy debate! Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #8

first: Dis-privilege among minorities manifests itself as follows; lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #9

And you truly believe this? ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #10

It's not a matter of belief. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #11

Are you saying that … 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2013 #50

I'm saying that for every example, there's an (at least) equally compelling counterexample. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #60

False. Reality clearly favors cisgendered white, straight men. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #68

In my daily life, I work with the disabled in a impoverished community. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #87

No, it exists. You just don't want to admit it exists. Or you can't see it. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #88

I don't want to "admit" that leprechauns exist. I can't see them either. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #89

Yes, and the abundance of feminist and queer analyses and theory is wrong. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #95

Now we're talking about hetero privilege? lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #97

People have listed many examples for you. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #99

Yeah....that's not how it manifests itself. jeff47 Nov 2013 #16

Then defend your viewpoint. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #17

Yes … 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2013 #51

I am not, in any form, denying that WP exists. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #63

"White" "privilege" offers no real "benefits" for the whole either. AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #71

When you look at the average outcomes for blacks vs whites lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #82

I see what you're saying, Jeff, although it doesn't disprove my point, either. AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #120

Your list is about 100 pages too short jeff47 Nov 2013 #56

Lots of assertions and denial... YoungDemCA Nov 2013 #23

two things. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #28

"First society doesn't consciously send black people to jail because they are black" ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #62

As pervasive as white privilege is... lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #65

Jeff ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #69

And I think you're not keeping up with current events. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #83

okay I'll give it a shot off the top of my head -- help anyone? Chiquitita Nov 2013 #42

How bout jeff47 Nov 2013 #55

those are very strange privileges hfojvt Nov 2013 #77

hfojvt Chiquitita Nov 2013 #81

it is sad that you have to post this noiretextatique Nov 2013 #12

White male privilege is a simply horrible thing. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #13

SCHEDULING NYE BEVAN FOR ASS KICKING Skittles Nov 2013 #15

I couldn't have written this better myself MrScorpio Nov 2013 #18

Excellent post, but I would add heterosexual privilege to that list. BainsBane Nov 2013 #20

Great post. Unfortunately, some get so defensive that they feel they are being personally attacked.. YoungDemCA Nov 2013 #22

That is their intention. N/t BainsBane Nov 2013 #25

Exactly. The responses to the thread in this forum trying to examine why so many whites vote Repub Number23 Nov 2013 #26

Good fucking point! Thank you! boston bean Nov 2013 #57

Yes ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #64

There are a few who do get too defensive, yeah. That IS true. AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #73

Not just male. I've walked away from so many feminist conversations because I am so sick and fucking Number23 Nov 2013 #24

This is so full of it ! upaloopa Nov 2013 #27

lol Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #33

The privileged need this insight the most. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #39

No. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #59

+1 Puzzledtraveller Nov 2013 #85

Most people are NOT aware, that's false on it's face uponit7771 Nov 2013 #91

IMO, dotymed Nov 2013 #30

Marxism gets a lot of things right. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #40

tell that to the kid who got arrested for buying a $300 belt. ejpoeta Nov 2013 #78

Two questions LittleBlue Nov 2013 #32

Not being discriminated against is a form of privilege. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #35

As far as what the privileged should do... Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #37

Pretty much what I was saying. Good points here! nt AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #47

"Vote Democratic?"... yes, all the time... every time.. until they get really stupid too uponit7771 Nov 2013 #93

Thanks Gravity Chiquitita Nov 2013 #43

I don't feel privileged at all. Skip Intro Nov 2013 #45

But privilege isn't about an individual's circumstances cyberswede Nov 2013 #66

True, but that's more of a case of the WOC being UNDERprivileged..... AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #72

Privilege is not someone showing up at your house and handing you a million dollars. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #67

Wait a minute leftstreet Nov 2013 #70

Sorry, I used caste incorrectly in this context. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #75

Oprah Winfrey leftstreet Nov 2013 #84

TBH, it's not so much that we're privileged.... AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #74

GC, while I realize full well that I, as a "white" "cis" guy that I am certainly more fortunate..... AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #46

You Forget a form of Male Privilege that No Longer Exists. Wolf Frankula Nov 2013 #48

That happens mostly because of the male hero complex. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #54

that's because women are the weaker sex! oh us women... we may become hysterical!! ejpoeta Nov 2013 #79

A self granted "privilege" Bradical79 Nov 2013 #105

I'm nor saying it was 'self granted' Wolf Frankula Nov 2013 #123

The bold portion: Rings like the "invisible hand of the market place." Eleanors38 Nov 2013 #80

K&R polichick Nov 2013 #92

"Not being consistently viewed as a sexual object is something men benefit from every single day of Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #94

That is a myth. The sexual objectification of women is ever-present. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #96

I'm not sure if you're being serious or sarcastic. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #98

Two things: First, 18-22 year old Facebook pages are not even remotely close... Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #100

I didn't claim they were a good cross-section of society. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #102

If your claim is your school is a egalitarian sexist utopia, you're wrong. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #103

Right. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #104

Which school is it? Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #107

I don't feel comfortable giving away information like that on a public discussion forum. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #108

If you're too afraid to give a specific example, don't talk about how said example is so important. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #109

What's so hard about understanding that I don't want to be stalked online? Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #111

That's the risk you take when you use your personal life as specific counter examples. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #115

Gravitycollapse probably knows better than you do Bradical79 Nov 2013 #118

Your school's facebook page is hardly relevant Bradical79 Nov 2013 #110

Did I say it was? Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #113

Yes, actually you did. You are using that one example to counter everything else. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #117

Yes, you did. In plain English. Bradical79 Nov 2013 #119

At my college. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #121

Your response was to someone talking about society at large Bradical79 Nov 2013 #122

I'm one of the most privileged people in the world. dawg Nov 2013 #112

sigh... yes. just this. seabeyond Nov 2013 #125