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JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
61. Key phrase ... "Here we go again."
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 01:32 PM
Oct 2013

Every couple months DU explodes in a panic with predictions that the Dems are going to agree to a plan to cut Social Security.

Endless OPs filled with posts predicting said cuts. "Here it comes!!! Any second!!!"

The lamentations begin. "Democrats suck!!!"

"Obama hates old people!!"

Blah blah blah .... and then ... POOF ... nothing happens.

And so ... "Here we go again" is actually a very appropriate way to start OPs like this one.

Seems to me the article implies Van Hollen is against chained CPI. Mass Oct 2013 #1
Yes, but it is the Democratics who put it on the table before. madfloridian Oct 2013 #2
Were they asked? Mass Oct 2013 #3
No, we have the offer to put it on the table. madfloridian Oct 2013 #8
Yes, we have the FACT that a Democratic President put that on the table. Howevever sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #23
Agreed, it must be removed from the table out loud so we hear it. madfloridian Oct 2013 #25
Plus one! Out loud! Enthusiast Oct 2013 #52
The article was written to CONFUSE ReRe Oct 2013 #96
The 'entitlement cuts in exchange for tax increases' seems to be part of the 'grand bargain' PoliticAverse Oct 2013 #4
We fix SS by eliminating the CAP. We fix Medicare by making the eligibility age -9 Months and Vincardog Oct 2013 #93
Your post title is misleading to the point of being dishonest. geek tragedy Oct 2013 #5
Not dishonest at all. We know it is still on the table. madfloridian Oct 2013 #9
The article says van hollen is willing to consider measures other than cuts. geek tragedy Oct 2013 #10
"He said he would want to avoid changes that reduce the benefits that Americans receive." rhett o rick Oct 2013 #43
That's not what the title says n/t Fumesucker Oct 2013 #19
+1 on the misleading title IronLionZion Oct 2013 #28
He clearly did not say that cuts were off the table. He said he wants to avoid. Pretty flimsy. nm rhett o rick Oct 2013 #44
House Minority members don't have the authority to declare anything off the table.nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #69
No, it is NOT misleading, in fact it is very restrained. The very idea that ANY sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #30
...... madfloridian Oct 2013 #34
+1. These budget discussions always seem to skip initial and important questions. winter is coming Oct 2013 #39
Excellent post, thank you! sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #40
Amen, great idea. madfloridian Oct 2013 #42
You are ruining perfectly good manufactured outrage!!! JoePhilly Oct 2013 #63
For every dollar cut from SS or Medicare, I want $100,000 in new tax revenue from the wealthiest. Scuba Oct 2013 #6
medicare change to cut costs: negotiate drug prices. nt msongs Oct 2013 #7
Senator Mark Warner (VA) Iwillnevergiveup Oct 2013 #11
Bullshit Cryptoad Oct 2013 #13
What does that mean? sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #35
you are about 180 degrees off on my post Cryptoad Oct 2013 #50
I agree completely. n/t whathehell Oct 2013 #82
I already called Durbin's office. Will definitely call Warner's. sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #41
Raise the income cap. nt LiberalEsto Oct 2013 #12
Make Fica a progressive tax! nt Cryptoad Oct 2013 #14
So exactly how surprised should I pretend to be? nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #15
Don't trust him senseandsensibility Oct 2013 #16
If Democrats are unwilling to make any cuts to entitlements, what would you see as a compromise maui902 Oct 2013 #17
This GOP-teabagger idiots Cryptoad Oct 2013 #22
There should be no compromise on these programs at all. No need for it. madfloridian Oct 2013 #26
Most Dems view cuts to SS and Medicare as a moral compromise. No compromise on that. No deal. leveymg Oct 2013 #27
Explain please how cuts to a Fund that has zero to do with the Central Fund sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #32
SS has ZERO TO DO WITH THE FED BUDGET. sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #36
+1000000 liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #46
Compromise on something temporary, don't start cutting social security or medicare. lark Oct 2013 #71
It's all political pablum... kentuck Oct 2013 #18
There SHOULD be tax increases on the wealthy and SS should not be a part sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #37
+10000 n/t whathehell Oct 2013 #91
Has anybody heard Cryptoad Oct 2013 #20
Some important points: First it depends on if the Democrats and Obama switch to Chained okaawhatever Oct 2013 #21
The GOP already accused Dems of balancing budget on the backs of seniors. madfloridian Oct 2013 #57
No, No and HELL No.... Swede Atlanta Oct 2013 #24
In this political climate there will not likely be a "grand bargain". nevergiveup Oct 2013 #29
Agreed. We should not let up on the pressure. madfloridian Oct 2013 #56
Sure, I'll accept a change in Medicare Jack Rabbit Oct 2013 #31
Kick !!! WillyT Oct 2013 #33
Here is what I say..... Hotler Oct 2013 #38
What Durbin said... madfloridian Oct 2013 #45
Any grand bargain attempt is doomed to failure because of the sequester Recursion Oct 2013 #47
Geez...you'd think CvH would be tired of hearing from me by now. Chan790 Oct 2013 #48
OMG Social Security does not add one nickel to the deficit. Tax cuts do. grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #49
They will never agree to anything anyway!!!! bravenak Oct 2013 #51
the people in their 40`s and 50`s better wake up. madrchsod Oct 2013 #53
They should be fighting this battle constantly. madfloridian Oct 2013 #55
Then they should set an example by cutting their money first. hobbit709 Oct 2013 #54
Dem leaders don't represent the people - that's where our side refuses to face reality. polichick Oct 2013 #58
Just once it would be nice LiberalLovinLug Oct 2013 #59
"constant pre-negotiation capitulation." madfloridian Oct 2013 #60
It almost makes you wonder what they REALLY stand for, doesn't it? Myrina Oct 2013 #62
Key phrase ... "Here we go again." JoePhilly Oct 2013 #61
That is a very condescending post. I really resent it. madfloridian Oct 2013 #67
The same cuts to social security that you describe ... JoePhilly Oct 2013 #70
I do NOT bash the president. Never have, never will. madfloridian Oct 2013 #73
I said it happens in these threads. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #74
No, it is not at all. I agree with Teddy Roosevelt. madfloridian Oct 2013 #85
I dont understand the need to disparage others for being vigilant, skeptical and always rhett o rick Oct 2013 #75
The claim that "Obama hates old people" ... JoePhilly Oct 2013 #77
The middle class has a lot in the last 30 years. IMO there hasnt been enough "hair on fire". rhett o rick Oct 2013 #78
Who said "relax"? JoePhilly Oct 2013 #81
Bares repeating: rgbecker Oct 2013 #64
Even the old way of calculating COLAs is BS... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #65
It is and considering they raise the price of Medicare to Cleita Oct 2013 #87
Like Carlin said... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #92
How many times... iandhr Oct 2013 #66
His JOB is now on the table. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #68
K&R! nt Poll_Blind Oct 2013 #72
"No" to any cuts..nada, zilch, zero, nothing. nt snappyturtle Oct 2013 #76
So... "closing various tax loopholes" is a tax increase in Republi-speak? Owl Oct 2013 #79
FUCKING FASCISTS!! AAO Oct 2013 #80
Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Jakes Progress Oct 2013 #83
Can we for once let Republicans make these offers? NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #84
I give up. Cleita Oct 2013 #86
never give up, fight back! WE NEED TO PRIMARY HIM, NOW! NuttyFluffers Oct 2013 #95
Post removed Post removed Oct 2013 #88
Uh. Huh. eom uppityperson Oct 2013 #90
Agreeing to steal EARNED & FUNDED benefits if tax loopholes are closed is NOT ACCEPTABLE Faryn Balyncd Oct 2013 #89
Van Hollen is my congressperson. Faygo Kid Oct 2013 #94
His office says he's against using chained CPI IronLionZion Oct 2013 #97
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