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Fawke Em

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147. Apparently, not too itchy or I'd have been here sooner.

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 12:43 AM

Oct 2013

My son, who is a history buff and a stat whiz looked at the purple map and thinks all y'all South bashers are full of bigotry. He even picked out the loveliest blue smiley face crossing the South with Nashville and Knoxville as the blue eyes and Chattanooga as the nose... I digress.

My point is that I'm tired of DU and the liberal media on this Southern Alert. We're gerrymandered and plied full of hateful media, yet our urban areas are STILL voting blue, just the same as you are.

And, I'm only a hero to my kids and my five rescued dogs and one cat and one bird. That's enough for me. I just don't like any bigotry - no matter the broad brush.

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the confederate flag [View all] arely staircase Oct 2013 OP

The confederate flag stands for evil IMO. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #1

A lot of people in the south don't want to admit the evil of slavery Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #3

that's why they call it the War of Northern Aggression... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #4

Anyone who uses that term un-ironically is full of shit, anyway. Aristus Oct 2013 #14

I'm going to give you a chance to clarify before I alert. Fawke Em Oct 2013 #29

Cool the itchy trigger finger, hero. Aristus Oct 2013 #33

Apparently, not too itchy or I'd have been here sooner. Fawke Em Oct 2013 #147

Great response LukeFL Oct 2013 #150

You seem concerned! stonecutter357 Oct 2013 #118

Hey, Alabama! Fawke Em Oct 2013 #146

Why will you alert? LukeFL Oct 2013 #149

That's what I call the late uncivil war bluemarkers Oct 2013 #42

+1000 (from someone born and raised in the south) Tom Ripley Oct 2013 #116

1+ pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2013 #127

I agree and my forefathers faught under it arely staircase Oct 2013 #7

How long has your family been in Texas? I have family that has been in NY since the 1670's. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #12

since the 1870s arely staircase Oct 2013 #19

Cool. The last to get here was my Great Grandparents on my mother's side that came from Italy. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #20

well in addition to our scots-irish (redneck) roots arely staircase Oct 2013 #27

My mothers parents got married in the 40's and to some people irish/itialian marriages were taboo hrmjustin Oct 2013 #28

mexican-anglo/celtic "white" marriages have strangely arely staircase Oct 2013 #41

Mixed marriages of all races is very common here in Brooklyn now. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #43

Thank you for pointing that out. Fawke Em Oct 2013 #30

yep. what really bugs me arely staircase Oct 2013 #34

+$1 lunasun Oct 2013 #94

Like ALL Wars, the Civil War was fought by the Working Class Peasants to enrich the 1%. bvar22 Oct 2013 #126

SMEDLEY nikto Oct 2013 #138

The Confederate Flag is... nikto Oct 2013 #132

It should have been banned just as the Nazi swastika was. Dawson Leery Oct 2013 #2

It should be banned because it is the Battle Flag of a defeated VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #5

Ironically, that's what makes America great davidn3600 Oct 2013 #31

+1 onenote Oct 2013 #54

Along with "Free Speech" zones? N_E_1 for Tennis Oct 2013 #111

When was Sgent Oct 2013 #59

The First Amendment is a bigger "fuck you" to Nazis than banning a symbol ever could be. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #83

+1 LAGC Oct 2013 #123

I am happier with it not being banned. whopis01 Oct 2013 #114

That cursed yellow snake flag is similarly a symbol of hatred. Hoyt Oct 2013 #6

4 years of Teahadist taint does not erase ~250 years of American historical significance. DRoseDARs Oct 2013 #38

THANK YOU! . . . .n/t annabanana Oct 2013 #89

Don't know the history of the Gadsden flag, do you? hack89 Oct 2013 #45

That's nice, but it's been usurped by bigoted, gun loving, right wingers. Hoyt Oct 2013 #52

I don't associate with RW bigots so I wouldn't know. hack89 Oct 2013 #53

Well, look at who is waving that flag nowadays. Simple enough. Hoyt Oct 2013 #68

I understand. hack89 Oct 2013 #87

OK. There are also those who tell us the confederate flag was used by Jesus or some such junk. Hoyt Oct 2013 #88

OK, enough: They also wave the US flag, therefore its a racist symbol too. DRoseDARs Oct 2013 #90

When they wave it, it is, especially when along side the confederate and Gadsden flags. Hoyt Oct 2013 #91

"When they wave it, it is, especially when along side the confederate and Gadsden flags." DRoseDARs Oct 2013 #93

you lost the debate with that one. TeamPooka Oct 2013 #105

I have to give another DUer credit for pointing this one out. . . . . . . Hoyt Oct 2013 #120

I think what Hoyt meant Gore1FL Oct 2013 #98

I'll be sure to let the Navy personnel know that their patch is offensive... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #84

LOL. Those asses carrying the flag in those photos ain't Navy. Hoyt Oct 2013 #85

They try to hide it and try to make other voters accept them. But some of their bluestate10 Oct 2013 #8

It lives on as an ensign of the Teahad...rebelliousness, just like the Gadsden flag HereSince1628 Oct 2013 #9

I live in the Deep South North Carolina Knigh Oct 2013 #10

so do I arely staircase Oct 2013 #16

I'm sorry; did I read that wrong? Aristus Oct 2013 #18

I dont think it deserves any place of official honor. arely staircase Oct 2013 #21

I agree. Aristus Oct 2013 #22

The original is already there, waiting for its devotees to join it. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #35

There are Confederate cemeteries in the South Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #78

wrong wrong wrong LittleGirl Oct 2013 #95

That's your opinion Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #129

Fly the current 50 Star US on Top LittleGirl Oct 2013 #134

uh, maybe arely staircase Oct 2013 #136

thanks for your thoughts LittleGirl Oct 2013 #143

May I suggest that you take a trip to your mother's home state, Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #137

she came from NW LittleGirl Oct 2013 #144

Visiting the Pea Ridge battlefield can be an enlightening experience Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #145

welcome to DU-- WHY should that flag be flown anywhere, especially "certain government buildings niyad Oct 2013 #62

WTF? Why fly the flag of a defeated traitorous people who fought to keep slavery? Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #96

Recently went to S Carolina for 2 weeks and never saw a CF or decal the entire time. grantcart Oct 2013 #11

same in east texas arely staircase Oct 2013 #17

I understand, just interesting how it seems to have faded in some areas. grantcart Oct 2013 #24

Where in east Texas? rppper Oct 2013 #125

without giving too much personal info arely staircase Oct 2013 #130

Gotcha..... rppper Oct 2013 #139

yeah Brookshire arely staircase Oct 2013 #140

I miss home a lot... rppper Oct 2013 #141

I've seen it more and more here in California Lordquinton Oct 2013 #44

Leave it to teabaggers palin and cruz to Cha Oct 2013 #48

Yes, you pegged it. It was a Klan rally. nt SunSeeker Oct 2013 #74

My neighbor has one on the bumper of his car. progressoid Oct 2013 #71

Well said, arely Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #13

thank you nt arely staircase Oct 2013 #23

all it is now is a symbol of racism Skittles Oct 2013 #15

There's a better use for it. . .as a toilet. . . DinahMoeHum Oct 2013 #25

The new GOP is all about slavery. Turbineguy Oct 2013 #26

Yep obxhead Oct 2013 #32

...is flown by racist fucks. Iggo Oct 2013 #36

It was nothing but a Klan rally today. Viva the Union, arely! thank you!.. Cha Oct 2013 #37

+ 1 arely staircase Oct 2013 #46

Regardless, it is part of the history of this country, and so is the racism that also occurred in lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #39

right on arely staircase Oct 2013 #47

I know lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #64

that is very true noiretextatique Oct 2013 #65

history is history, that is true lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #67

One place that I can think of they didn't/aren't losing is breaking unions. 4bucksagallon Oct 2013 #40

Here's the picket sign I made for a newspaper strike my Teamster union participated in: NBachers Oct 2013 #63

Yeah scabs were a major problem in strikes. They also work for a lot less money......... 4bucksagallon Oct 2013 #73

I'm not from the South, but... DissidentVoice Oct 2013 #49

Boy did those KKK recruiters pick the wrong guy! Brigid Oct 2013 #100

They certainly did! DissidentVoice Oct 2013 #106

The Confederate flag is a Jim Crow, Pro-Racist flag, for sure. blkmusclmachine Oct 2013 #50

R#51 & K for, who are you "arely staircase' and why do I agree with you so much? n/t UTUSN Oct 2013 #51

The public is with us. Which is why this is considered to be hilarious... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #55

Good post, thanks. mountain grammy Oct 2013 #56

That flag is so offensive gopiscrap Oct 2013 #57

My g g gf immigrated to the US, fought in the Civil War in the US Navy. HooptieWagon Oct 2013 #58

As a Kentuckian, I will no longer tolerate the assholes waving around symbols of hatred BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #60

amen arely staircase Oct 2013 #61

You are far more polite than I am. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #69

today's disgraceful display of that flag noiretextatique Oct 2013 #66

They gotta go home and get their robes and hoods first. Brigid Oct 2013 #103

they've traded the hoods and robes noiretextatique Oct 2013 #124

Isn't that kind of what Paula Deen tried to argue? Brigid Oct 2013 #102

Fly this flag instead! theHandpuppet Oct 2013 #70

I live in Southeastern PA, and on a very convenient route to and from my homeo Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #72

Our Union Forever flamingdem Oct 2013 #75

Honestly I wasn't offended by the loser waving the confederate flag; Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #76

The confederate flag's design quinnox Oct 2013 #77

How do you feel about the guillotine's design? Lex Oct 2013 #92

YAY! vlakitti Oct 2013 #99

It's historically wrong, too Recursion Oct 2013 #79

This is ... Kablooie Oct 2013 #80

I really wish they would've banned it before allowing the Southern States back in. dballance Oct 2013 #81

One could also say the same about the Flag of Texas too MarchemintotheSea Oct 2013 #82

yeah except Texas still exists and hasn't had slavery for most of its existence arely staircase Oct 2013 #133

It's not even the confederate flag Scootaloo Oct 2013 #86

IIRC from high school LostOne4Ever Oct 2013 #107

Now a symbol of a futile struggle against progress... (nt) ehrnst Oct 2013 #97

The Standard of losers, traitors, and people who can't let go of the past or their special rights ck4829 Oct 2013 #101

You might want to think about changing your avatar, there Spider Jerusalem Oct 2013 #104

The confederate flag LostOne4Ever Oct 2013 #108

Godwin's Law 2.0 Roland99 Oct 2013 #109

Wave it saying this worked out so well before. nt caseymoz Oct 2013 #110

It is THE American symbol of hatred and insurrection. Avalux Oct 2013 #112

I think slaveocracy is an inappropriate term whopis01 Oct 2013 #113

The white flag of surrender should be the banner of southern "heritage"... Tom Ripley Oct 2013 #115

"Slaveocracy" is a term that is self-contradictory. It would be better to use a different neologism. xocet Oct 2013 #117

ah. I guess it would seem to imply a system in which the slaves are in charge. arely staircase Oct 2013 #131

That is a good question... xocet Oct 2013 #148

The Confederate flag just needs to go. Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #119

stars and bars frog64 Oct 2013 #121

Nothing like a Confederate flag to bring people together, I say. Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #122

To use some southern terminology, Fuckin' A JP. Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #128

Thanks for the uplifting post. zinnisking Oct 2013 #135

thank you nt arely staircase Oct 2013 #142