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In reply to the discussion: Here's my ACA rate INCREASE for those who doubt... [View all]ReverendDeuce
(1,643 posts)258. But in single-payer, it would not be a for-profit disease management model like it is today...
As it stands today, insurance cartels have a real gravy train going.
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but it is my understanding that if your premiums are more than something like 10% of what you make
notadmblnd
Oct 2013
#199
Yes, they do because before, a plan with maternity coverage would cost...
Barack_America
Oct 2013
#34
Yes, it's part of the new law. Other co's on the exchange are just as ridiculously priced. n/t
ReverendDeuce
Oct 2013
#55
Bingo? LOL... Brother, this IS THE EXCHANGE PLAN... I've seen it, it's the SAME PLAN... n/t
ReverendDeuce
Oct 2013
#56
It may be the same plan, but what people are saying is that if you actually acquire it via
cui bono
Oct 2013
#81
I have no idea, I'm just trying to clarify the point others are making with less
cui bono
Oct 2013
#98
A single person making under $45,000 who's insurance is more than 9.5% of their salary
VanillaRhapsody
Oct 2013
#161
Wouldn't bet on that. The on and off exchange individual policies I'm hearing are the same.
TheKentuckian
Oct 2013
#188
Sigh... I _did_ shop around, and this is on par with everything available... nt
ReverendDeuce
Oct 2013
#57
Gawd. Just cancel that stinker and get a plan through the exchanges. Sheesh.
kestrel91316
Oct 2013
#113
The plans on the exchange are just as pricey, and this plan is already a part of the exchange... nt
ReverendDeuce
Oct 2013
#129
Well, deal with it. There are no more crappy policies available. There never should have been,
kestrel91316
Oct 2013
#145
$25k?? Jeez, I wish, lol. The Great Recession has put me down considerably from that.
kestrel91316
Oct 2013
#171
Explain to my why my current policy was crappy, hmm? It worked well when I needed in two years ago.
ReverendDeuce
Oct 2013
#260
because blaming the ACA for the fact that his insurance co. is trying to screw him...
bunnies
Oct 2013
#47
The aca was written for insurance companies. if it had been written correctly
Doctor_J
Oct 2013
#285
That's true, I misspoke. So the patient pays 100% of the bills until the deductible is reached
Cal Carpenter
Oct 2013
#150
The point is people are being called liars when they talk about rate increases here...
ReverendDeuce
Oct 2013
#9
In single payer, you dont get to opt out of anything, you just get taxed. And the OP would get taxed
stevenleser
Oct 2013
#205
But in single-payer, it would not be a for-profit disease management model like it is today...
ReverendDeuce
Oct 2013
#258
None of that has to do with what was being discussed, which is choice of what is covered and
stevenleser
Oct 2013
#259
Why is it "interesting" that I don't want to share my income details? I don't qualify for a subsidy.
ReverendDeuce
Oct 2013
#261
Individual policy premiums for males in my state have risen because of ACA...
ReverendDeuce
Oct 2013
#264
They are being called liars for blaming ACA for their insurance company's greed.
kestrel91316
Oct 2013
#118
Well you circled/highlighted the family numbers as if those were your prices
notadmblnd
Oct 2013
#62
I've been paying extra for coverage of obese people and their ills for my whole life and you don't
kestrel91316
Oct 2013
#121
Democrats DO value the social contract. RWers don't. You can always tell who is who by that.
kestrel91316
Oct 2013
#176
An extra $75 a month in premiums, but also higher deductible and coinsurance.
BlueCheese
Oct 2013
#28
So you admit that these photos are not from the ACA site, but from your insurance company.
Th1onein
Oct 2013
#36
Oh, I "get it," alright. I just don't like people playing me for a fool. Neither should you.
Th1onein
Oct 2013
#59
Here's the quote directly from his subject line in the OP: Here's my ACA rate INCREASE for those wh
Th1onein
Oct 2013
#82
You came on here posting photos of your private insurance carriers rates and tried to pass them off
Th1onein
Oct 2013
#256
No, these are Blue Cross rates that are for a Blue Cross plan that has the comparable coverage that
Th1onein
Oct 2013
#271
It *IS* a plan offered on our state's exchange! What is SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?
ReverendDeuce
Oct 2013
#272
I'm going to be paying $1,300/month for coverage until the ACA kicks in after the first.
WilliamPitt
Oct 2013
#17
Um, my ACA premium is less than a third of that. How interesting you assumed an anti-ACA stance. nt
msanthrope
Oct 2013
#141
The full premium for Medicare part A & B is something like $1100/month this year
Recursion
Oct 2013
#236
I did. They are all just as bad. Already did my homework before posting. nt
ReverendDeuce
Oct 2013
#125
The OP is deliberately withholding several important pieces of information. That is being dishonest.
stevenleser
Oct 2013
#219
Until he checks the prices out through the exchange the numbers don't mean anything.
Marrah_G
Oct 2013
#92
The OP claims he did check out the exchange but does not appear to want to show those numbers
Ohio Joe
Oct 2013
#97
For the one REALLY slow kid: insurance companies are no longer permitted to sell REALLY crappy
kestrel91316
Oct 2013
#128
He is a HUMAN BEING. He is not forced to buy medical insurance. STOP LYING about that, people.
kestrel91316
Oct 2013
#146
Yep, because in due time, without insurance, he WILL incur medical bills he can't pay.
kestrel91316
Oct 2013
#152
He WANTS insurance, so yeah. And if he makes more than 50K, he's getting a god deal.
bettyellen
Oct 2013
#185
It's really not even a question of WANTING insurance anymore, now is it?
Seeking Serenity
Oct 2013
#202
Yes! If you want to shirk responsibility and have resources- you have to pay a penalty. Awesome!!
bettyellen
Oct 2013
#207
Slow kids? That's how you have a conversation with those who may not agree with you?
louslobbs
Oct 2013
#164
It would be very interesting and educational for us if you would check the exchange
cui bono
Oct 2013
#95
If you were born at sometime in the past, a woman has been charged higher rates to have you.
bravenak
Oct 2013
#100
Subsidy Calculator at the Kaiser Family Foundation. For all states. It works.
DevonRex
Oct 2013
#101
LOL! You must not have noticed but they USE the Kaiser site for the subsidy calculation.
DevonRex
Oct 2013
#137
You also left out the most important thing on that site: the warning at the bottom of EVERY PAGE.
Pab Sungenis
Oct 2013
#153
But the ones on the Kaiser site do. So, use the first one to find out which companies and
DevonRex
Oct 2013
#206
The ACA only covers pediatric dental/vision to age 19... I am in mid 30s so I get nothing. nt
ReverendDeuce
Oct 2013
#242
Stop whining. You've got yourself a bronze plan there, and that premium is quite reasonable. I
kestrel91316
Oct 2013
#112
Essentially, you're upset that you have to help pay for children's health care
demwing
Oct 2013
#139
I do sympathize with the fact that your mental health benefits are usless with a $2500 deductible
Hippo_Tron
Oct 2013
#149
exactly, and all the women in this country paid the insurance bump for birthing you. No more!
bettyellen
Oct 2013
#187
It's weird, several people including myself have asked to see these comparative figures, to no
louslobbs
Oct 2013
#173
it's not weird, Lou- it's obviously quite deliberate. as a woman who paid extra for maternity care
bettyellen
Oct 2013
#183
I agree, it's doing what's not only fair, but what's right. Same thing with paying taxes, I like
louslobbs
Oct 2013
#217
that is exactly it! i feel educating myself to vote thoughtfully and paying taxes is my give back..
bettyellen
Oct 2013
#220
I didn't bother to ask, as it didn't make sense anyway. The refusal to answer is consistent with it
freshwest
Oct 2013
#198
Many pieces of information missing. Like... How much money do you make. I'm guessing a fair amount.
stevenleser
Oct 2013
#160
If you make enough to not qualify for subsidies, you can afford $236 a month.
SolutionisSolidarity
Oct 2013
#195
If you live payday to payday, and you don't qualify for subsidies, then you have other problems.
SolutionisSolidarity
Oct 2013
#224
The fellow travelers are all telling the same tale in this thread. And it's laughable.
Ikonoklast
Oct 2013
#257
You hit the donut hole in you Republican controlled state. I replied to you in that thread and PM.
stevenleser
Oct 2013
#240
No, the OP is useless because it doesn't show comparable exchange policy rates and subsidies. LOL.
bettyellen
Oct 2013
#266
I just downgraded my satellite programming. Now instead of 300 channels of garbage, I only have 150
lostincalifornia
Oct 2013
#213
your current plan sucks balls. If you cant see that you were the sucker at the table....
TeamPooka
Oct 2013
#234
Please explain how my current plan "sucks balls"? I racked up nearly $80K in bills two years ago...
ReverendDeuce
Oct 2013
#245
Medical underwriting. You were one of the "free riders" everybody complained about.
Recursion
Oct 2013
#235
LOL... such vitriol! I'm a "free rider" with low-usage? How do you even know that?
ReverendDeuce
Oct 2013
#243
I do not think the ACA goes far enough, have lots of concern for losers but also want to make clear
uppityperson
Oct 2013
#294
****PLEASE POST COMPARABLE EXCHANGE PLANE SO WE CAN ALL SEE, NOT SPECULATION THAT****
uponit7771
Oct 2013
#265
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
ScreamingMeemie
Oct 2013
#305
I do call it proof, since it's pretty clear my rate is going up because of ACA...
ReverendDeuce
Oct 2013
#280
Looks like more drug coverage than you had. Should quickly pay for any increase in premiums.
patricia92243
Oct 2013
#277
I know full well what single-payer is and I advocate it wholeheartedly! nt
ReverendDeuce
Oct 2013
#282
Ok, you make too much money to qualify for a subsidy and are complaining about $75/mo more??
Roland99
Oct 2013
#315