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Isoldeblue

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49. If someone breaks the law,
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:49 PM
Oct 2013

in how information was attained, how the H can you or anyone expect Obama not to feel that responsibility has to be taken for it. As president he must apply the law evenly to all. Sometimes, the means doesn't always justify the end. The next whistle-blower may not be as altruistic as you feel Snowden was. It has nothing to do with Obama's stand on transparency, if someone breaks the law.

Granted, the info that Snowden leaked was something I'm glad we know about. But there were other ways to do it. But he's young and felt he was doing the right thing. I get that.

But, how much is that on the NSA greed for control and power. Or the CIA or the FBI who behave criminally to attain their goals. Not everything like that is on Obama. Saying it's on his watch means little, when you realize that he can't be omnipotent of knowing everything of what those agencies are doing.

There is more put on him than is accurate. He only has so much power to do things. And even then, he has to hold back for the good of the country and us. I wish he could use the 14th amendment to put those teahadist creeps in their place. He could, but he knows that isn't the right thing to do.

Comical. ucrdem Oct 2013 #1
Inexcusable coming from this President, esp. considering his stance during the election in 2008 Roland99 Oct 2013 #2
This goes well beyond burner phones nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #5
I was referring specifically to this, though Roland99 Oct 2013 #6
It is not the reporter, but the recipient nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #7
oh, I agree it shouldn't even remotely be up for discussion! Roland99 Oct 2013 #9
Yes, by gum, his administration should be leaking like a sieve! Bolo Boffin Oct 2013 #29
How dare they have 'message discipline!' Where are those damned malcontents? nt MADem Oct 2013 #78
Big K&R! quinnox Oct 2013 #3
Should be common sense, with the advent of the internet... HipChick Oct 2013 #4
"My Administration is committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness in Government." progressoid Oct 2013 #8
Downie and the WP were too busy being Bush/Cheney lapdogs to notice ThoughtCriminal Oct 2013 #10
"This administration exercises more control than George W. Bush’s did" ProSense Oct 2013 #11
LOL. Exactly NONE of your cites say what you claim. bvar22 Oct 2013 #13
Oh brother. n/t ProSense Oct 2013 #14
This has been a pattern for you. bvar22 Oct 2013 #18
oh pathetic, pro cali Oct 2013 #65
Oh bullshit, Cali ProSense Oct 2013 #67
READ the quotes then!!!!! George II Oct 2013 #17
Your excerpt violates copyright, since it is longer than four paragraphs. As to its substance, I am msanthrope Oct 2013 #12
Sachtleben is a shizzy poster boy, having pleaded guilty to child porn charges struggle4progress Oct 2013 #15
Did this guy cover Bush/Cheney? If so, then his claim is a lie Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #16
Cheney had a secret room. Isoldeblue Oct 2013 #22
There's no question this administration has abused the Espionage Act DirkGently Oct 2013 #19
If someone breaks the law, Isoldeblue Oct 2013 #49
No. This is abuse of a law aimed at spies, to punish DirkGently Oct 2013 #69
When it comes to the law, one can't Isoldeblue Oct 2013 #71
The Obama haters are really scraping the bottom of the barrel with this one. baldguy Oct 2013 #20
Its clear you didn't bother to read the clip supplied by the OP. bvar22 Oct 2013 #21
I think your snarky/snide remarks, putting baldguy down like that Isoldeblue Oct 2013 #23
Especially when the article in the OP is implying the current admin is worse than Nixon ever was. baldguy Oct 2013 #31
They sound like haters to me! Isoldeblue Oct 2013 #37
It does help the discussion if a poster reads the actual op Mojorabbit Oct 2013 #32
Assuming he hadn't, a better person has no need Isoldeblue Oct 2013 #34
Actually Mojorabbit Oct 2013 #35
You See... It's OK To Rip The OP Poster... But We Are Supposed To Treat The... WillyT Oct 2013 #36
No one ripped you. Some disagreed with the Isoldeblue Oct 2013 #40
Ah... You're Fairly New... WillyT Oct 2013 #41
If you're saying Isoldeblue Oct 2013 #42
No, No... I Think I'm A Lot Like You In MY Career... But... WillyT Oct 2013 #43
Well thank you :) Isoldeblue Oct 2013 #45
Troop Positioning/Movements, Tactical Strategies, War Plans, Etc... WillyT Oct 2013 #47
I completely agree Isoldeblue Oct 2013 #58
The Point I took away from Schieffer's comment 2banon Oct 2013 #73
Thanks 2banon! Isoldeblue Oct 2013 #75
Mojo, there is never a good excuse for rudeness Isoldeblue Oct 2013 #39
I was sincere in my wish for your weekend Mojorabbit Oct 2013 #46
Fair enough Isoldeblue Oct 2013 #62
Why did you find it necessary to bat for baldguy's rude post? bvar22 Oct 2013 #64
Here's some free Isoldeblue Oct 2013 #72
Free advice? bvar22 Oct 2013 #82
It may say those words, but it Isoldeblue Oct 2013 #38
Oh the poor babies! gulliver Oct 2013 #24
And Yet... The Thing You Say, And... The OPPOSITE Of What You Say... WillyT Oct 2013 #25
The FOIA stuff is not what they want to put out. gulliver Oct 2013 #44
Easily understood. elleng Oct 2013 #26
Yep... No Rolling Back Past Mistakes... WillyT Oct 2013 #27
We can always depend on you, Willy. MineralMan Oct 2013 #28
Likewise, I'm Sure... WillyT Oct 2013 #30
Yea, the Obama administration is more secretive than that of Bush II. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #33
Bush II started this nonsense and Obama is continuing it davidn3600 Oct 2013 #53
Pssst... WillyT Oct 2013 #55
How's that primary coming? JoePhilly Oct 2013 #63
Washington Post Buries Reporting Questioning Evidence Justifying Iraq War struggle4progress Oct 2013 #48
Washington Post Takes Down Nixon... How Far Back Ya Wanna Go ??? WillyT Oct 2013 #51
Downie's behavior a decade ago probably better reflects his current views than whatever he was doing struggle4progress Oct 2013 #56
Wash. Post buried report questioning Iran nuke intel, despite mea culpa for doing the same on Iraq struggle4progress Oct 2013 #50
Once Again... Attacking The Messenger... WillyT Oct 2013 #52
I think you need to learn the difference between a "story" and an "opinion piece" struggle4progress Oct 2013 #54
Alright... What's YOUR Opinion ??? WillyT Oct 2013 #60
try harder willy dionysus Oct 2013 #57
I Don't Have To Try At All... WillyT Oct 2013 #59
I remember listening to Downie give a high school graduation speech... BlueCheese Oct 2013 #61
Excellent read Willy. 99Forever Oct 2013 #66
Ok, I did read the entire opinion and come to a different conclusion which I hope is permissable. mountain grammy Oct 2013 #68
Excellent post! Isoldeblue Oct 2013 #76
Thanks. Us Grandmas need to stick together. We've seen too much and come too far to go back. mountain grammy Oct 2013 #77
The Mountain Grammy Speaks The Truth! MADem Oct 2013 #79
Is there a special filter that alerts the BOrG to jump on threads so quickly? BrotherIvan Oct 2013 #70
do you have any commentary on the actual article rather than your snide comments KittyWampus Oct 2013 #74
Really? Swarm? What's YOUR "strategy?" mountain grammy Oct 2013 #80
Everyone is talking past each other zipplewrath Oct 2013 #81
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