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91. No, I never said it is ok to stop in front of the car.

Reply to NYC_SKP (Reply #90)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 10:16 PM

Oct 2013

However, I don't think it is ok to run over someone because someone else stopped in front of my vehicle.

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Update on the bikers who terrorized a New York City Family. [View all] Dawson Leery Oct 2013 OP

This made me want to puke: Wait Wut Oct 2013 #1

Thugs such as this serve no purpose. Dawson Leery Oct 2013 #3

FWIW, I've seen countless kids become fucked-up adults even with excellent parenting... Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #9

Yeah, it is Yo_Mama Oct 2013 #48

If Lien had had an automatic assault weapon and sprayed the entire group, would he have been kelliekat44 Oct 2013 #69

If it were an automatic rifle Jenoch Oct 2013 #93

These bikers are clearly a bunch of hooning idiots Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #8

It isn't harsh. Wait Wut Oct 2013 #15

They are very lucky none of them was shot and killed. n/t MicaelS Oct 2013 #25

And just how many would he have gotten before being killed himself?? Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #28

What if the NYPD had been doing the shooting? MicaelS Oct 2013 #29

somebody would be dead in that case G_j Oct 2013 #146

A sad fact but often true... discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #224

well probuably if he had shot five or six of them the rest would have run away loli phabay Oct 2013 #187

That also assumes none of the others would be armed... Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #244

or that the shots would not have hit some other innocent person JI7 Oct 2013 #260

better to hope they are not going to beat you and mayby rape your wife then loli phabay Oct 2013 #266

no, he should have ran them over as he did , the gun nut thing is mostly fantasy JI7 Oct 2013 #267

and yet when he was stuck later in traffic they dragged him out and beat him loli phabay Oct 2013 #269

if he had a gun there is more chance his daughter would have ended up killing herself or someone JI7 Oct 2013 #271

yeah cause his daughter would have grabbed his gun and shot herself loli phabay Oct 2013 #272

happens a lot more than the fantasy about gun nut heroes JI7 Oct 2013 #273

nope. loli phabay Oct 2013 #274

gun nuts always see things and think about how they would have been the hero with their guns JI7 Oct 2013 #275

lol, or people who are trained and have experience look at it and use it as a what if loli phabay Oct 2013 #276

it is gun nuttery to always view things that happen and think about how they would have been the her JI7 Oct 2013 #279

yeah its better to get beaten and slashed and mayby your family attacked loli phabay Oct 2013 #265

If there's one situation where I don't want to invite return fire NoGOPZone Oct 2013 #300

depends on whether those thirty people are determined to harm you and your family loli phabay Oct 2013 #333

I don't know if I'd be willing to bet NoGOPZone Oct 2013 #341

he did good until the bit were he was dragged out and beaten and cut loli phabay Oct 2013 #343

no, he came out ahead, so he did good period NoGOPZone Oct 2013 #344

sorry getting beaten and cut is not coming out ahead, the guys that did it only loli phabay Oct 2013 #348

you do realize NoGOPZone Oct 2013 #349

yeah but makes no difference to the driver he was still beaten and cut loli phabay Oct 2013 #350

try to do better than blatant strawmen NoGOPZone Oct 2013 #351

well thats you i would rather not have been beaten but thats me. loli phabay Oct 2013 #353

another strawman nt NoGOPZone Oct 2013 #354

lol nope, loli phabay Oct 2013 #355

No choice RedFury Oct 2013 #370

In this... RedFury Oct 2013 #368

yeah cause they are going to rush you in the face of gunfire loli phabay Oct 2013 #369

Not a GLOCK!!!! They might if it is in a caliber that starts with a 4. oneshooter Oct 2013 #376

well both my principal and my backup are .40 and i use the old hydroshock. lol loli phabay Oct 2013 #378

My prefrence is a SIG220, 45 w/230gr JHP. oneshooter Oct 2013 #379

It happened in New York. In Texas, shots would have been fired. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #140

Correct.... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #142

I disagree. In Texas, the bikers would have been armed too and we would have had a shootout stevenleser Oct 2013 #340

and very likely the 2 year old or her mother would have been killed also JI7 Oct 2013 #352

Except that stuff like that doesn't happen down here. N/T GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #361

Doesn't work that way in real life, only in the movies. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #360

A quick search on texas and shootout between groups yields a lot of hits. stevenleser Oct 2013 #362

Multiple hits from only two incidents listed. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #363

There are 82 million hits on scores of pages. First few pages are of those two incidents stevenleser Oct 2013 #364

Here is page 11: GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #365

Sorry, but those weren't "bikers", they were punks on crotch-rockets, Enduros & 4-wheelers.... Ghost in the Machine Oct 2013 #52

You hit the nail on the head ChazII Oct 2013 #110

great song G_j Oct 2013 #162

Just call them "hoonigans" Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #212

would be funny to see a confrontation between the NJ punks and a large group of real bikers Supersedeas Oct 2013 #304

Look at this YouTube uploaded by this kid... NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #89

Apparently, there were a lot of other videos... Wait Wut Oct 2013 #214

Meezee would have pulled that video, too... NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #218

Doesn't look like the same guy... TeeYiYi Oct 2013 #306

Hmmmmm. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #309

Yeah, I'm just not sure... TeeYiYi Oct 2013 #312

For his own maybe RedFury Oct 2013 #371

it isn't the same guy TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #345

Good grief! mnmoderatedem Oct 2013 #206

No kidding. Wait Wut Oct 2013 #213

I don't understand how a driver in an SUV can run down a person on a motorcycle enough Oct 2013 #2

You need to watch the video Beaverhausen Oct 2013 #4

Which video? There are like 80 of them. Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2013 #47

the OP should have linked directly to it, but here... TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #184

Thank you! Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2013 #196

What was scary about that video BEFORE the SUV ran over a bunch of people? ieoeja Oct 2013 #221

It must have been another video then (there are so many) Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2013 #230

That was way after he already ran over one of them. newcriminal Oct 2013 #231

Yeah, I just checked (yet) another video. Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2013 #234

At that point the driver did ... nothing. ieoeja Oct 2013 #235

"So he is flat out lying about that." Wanna see a slashed tire? I'll SHOW you a slashed tire. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2013 #303

what are you trying to say with this post? TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #310

The tire is completely gone kcr Oct 2013 #314

I'm saying that he drove a long way AFTER his front right tire was slashed. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2013 #315

ok, I get what you're saying now TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #323

I'm a"car guy". cherokeeprogressive Oct 2013 #328

You can see the tire at 3:04 in the video just after it had been ripped off the vehicle cpwm17 Oct 2013 #332

Good catch about the tire that had come off the wheel at 3:04 in the GoPro2900 video. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #336

oh wow, you can! TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #337

I notice something new every time I watch the video cpwm17 Oct 2013 #338

Good find, hadn't seen that picture before. cemaphonic Oct 2013 #324

Thanks for posting this. Lot's of defenders of these outlaws, unbelievable. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #325

I believe so. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2013 #329

It's unclear if the collision even caused him to dump his bike. Possibly, it didn't. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #331

If you don't understand what happened, then you need ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2013 #5

Yes, you need to watch the video. Wait Wut Oct 2013 #6

If you are under attack from 30 people attacking your vehicle alcibiades_mystery Oct 2013 #7

This! n/t cynatnite Oct 2013 #13

It's really just this simple. reflection Oct 2013 #21

+ 1,000 malaise Oct 2013 #37

No shit! etherealtruth Oct 2013 #81

Great post. bigwillq Oct 2013 #97

I'm with you. By the way, I found a link with a clip showing the actual running over of bike by SUV NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #129

Holy shit! Only one person approached the SUV! ieoeja Oct 2013 #222

DU has spoken. The bikers were all criminals and thugs who deserved to die ecstatic Oct 2013 #225

Get rid RedFury Oct 2013 #373

One person walks up and yanks open the door. Yup, and that's enough to be killed or seriously hurt. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #239

They were just fucking riding! ieoeja Oct 2013 #240

They took over the freeway. They are law-breakers. And they brake checked him. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #249

Beating him after he tried killing their friend proves they were going to beat him up anyway?!?!?!? ieoeja Oct 2013 #256

he was trying to get away from them , they surrounded him , there was no reason for the fuckwad to JI7 Oct 2013 #261

Yup. Pretty much. Normal healthy people do not beat up people who are trying to get away from them NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #262

they were SMASHING the Windows on a Car with a 2 Year old, they are fucking THUGS JI7 Oct 2013 #252

One person jerking your door open justifies running over a man administering first aid ... ieoeja Oct 2013 #255

they were behaving like thugs the entire time , they deserved to get run over or worse , fuck them JI7 Oct 2013 #257

You really should review the timeline ecstatic Oct 2013 #293

the Brake Check guy's act was to intimidate him and gang up on the driver, he actually did stop JI7 Oct 2013 #297

Good Samaritan helping the brake check guy? NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #380

Why yes, yes it des... RedFury Oct 2013 #374

Even if the SUV driver was wrong in how he protected his family (I do not believe he was wrong), Jenoch Oct 2013 #318

what>? dbackjon Oct 2013 #342

Exactly! NutmegYankee Oct 2013 #160

Give it a try... RedFury Oct 2013 #372

They surrounded his vehicle and were beating on it to get to him. Xithras Oct 2013 #10

Deliberately stopping the SUV and then surrounding it JimDandy Oct 2013 #182

Watch The Video. jsr Oct 2013 #23

Link please to THE video? NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #79

"Enough" of your silliness. bigwillq Oct 2013 #95

It's been over 9 hours since Jenoch Oct 2013 #101

It started with an accident. The motorcyclist stopped suddenly in front of him. pnwmom Oct 2013 #165

That was not an accident, it was deliberate. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #190

I would run them down in heartbeat if I felt my loved ones were in danger. Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 #174

The only tragedy is that the other 29 are physically able to ride motorcycles still. nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #11

It's tragic that Lien wasn't driving an F-450. dairydog91 Oct 2013 #24

Or a Mack truck. Dawson Leery Oct 2013 #33

we need a like button fitman Oct 2013 #228

Too bad the driver didn't have a gun jsr Oct 2013 #12

And if any of the bikers were armed, then what happens next? Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #14

A gun beats a knife any day of the week jsr Oct 2013 #17

It's not beating twenty hoodlums with guns...This ain't Hollywood or GTA 5... Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #19

Sure...but it's also very, very likely most would flee once shots were fired. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2013 #34

why don't you take your gun crap somewhwere else. HERVEPA Oct 2013 #54

No. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2013 #65

why don't you take your gun crap somewhwere else. HERVEPA Oct 2013 #73

Kind of off topic, but have you ever googled "zerg rush"? petronius Oct 2013 #55

I've never heard it called Zerg rush, just plain old zerg Marrah_G Oct 2013 #60

Geeky gamer chick -> Lizzie Poppet Oct 2013 #64

LOL actually just googled it............ Marrah_G Oct 2013 #71

Gun Nut Fantasies JI7 Oct 2013 #189

And an SUV beats a motorcycle Politicalboi Oct 2013 #87

They had a large vehicle that could do much more damage The Straight Story Oct 2013 #53

It's New York.... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #99

They'd all piss themselves if REAL outlaw bikers got in their faces. graywarrior Oct 2013 #16

+1 Go Vols Oct 2013 #35

Yes, I have encountered Hells Angels and they would literally murder them. Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 #178

Yeah, I grew up around HA's graywarrior Oct 2013 #200

Now they're pissing off the cops with their bullshit answers BeyondGeography Oct 2013 #18

Just watched the video and it is asolutely frightening. Those bikers virgogal Oct 2013 #20

It was frightening just watching it. Marrah_G Oct 2013 #61

I can say that I would do the same thing. Curmudgeoness Oct 2013 #82

hope their bikes get rusty while they enjoy the hospitality of a state retention facility dembotoz Oct 2013 #22

And I hope their crotch-rockets are purposely destroyed. kentauros Oct 2013 #147

I've ridden a super-sport and a "hyper-sport." Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 #179

hope they nail them gopiscrap Oct 2013 #26

Criminal forfeiture needs to be used to take away their bikes. Dawson Leery Oct 2013 #31

There are too many stories to get straight. I would think someone would crack. Orsino Oct 2013 #32

I watched the video- On instinct, when I started getting intimidated and surrounded... richmwill Oct 2013 #27

Wow riding off road bikes and atv's... Historic NY Oct 2013 #30

That's one of the dirty secrets of their ongoing battle with LEOs Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #36

what does Dyedinthewoolliberal Oct 2013 #39

just general immature jackassery with bikes/cars on public roads... Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #41

They need to get them out on the interstate and completely box them in.... Historic NY Oct 2013 #43

Well, to be fair this was during Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #45

+1,000,000,000,000 Dawson Leery Oct 2013 #58

One of them surrendered today in Queens KurtNYC Oct 2013 #38

The one in the coma paralyzed, his family is all over the local news crying saying the driver should NotThisTime Oct 2013 #40

He fathered a child at 11 years old? Beaverhausen Oct 2013 #42

yup, local news is totally reporting this in the favor of the damn bikers WTF NotThisTime Oct 2013 #44

Maybe it's a step-son? Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #50

He is actually 32 according to a recent arrest NotThisTime Oct 2013 #51

Someone needs to start a "Fuck Jeremiah Mieses" site Taverner Oct 2013 #46

If you read the posts... Wait Wut Oct 2013 #49

He's already fucked. (nt) TacoD Oct 2013 #199

I would have been terrified if I was in that car Marrah_G Oct 2013 #56

Can someone explain the initial bump/hit that led to the chase? ecstatic Oct 2013 #57

I see the biker pull in front of him and slow way down while looking behind him. Marrah_G Oct 2013 #62

The biker attempted an illegal "brake check" to stop the SUV. ManiacJoe Oct 2013 #76

I doesn't matter what happened earlier. This is TERRORISM, there is no excuse. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #83

True, but nothing happens in a vacuum. ManiacJoe Oct 2013 #85

I've seen this before. The bikers likely wanted to stop traffic to stunt on the road. Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 #175

Well one clear early link in the event chain Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #246

Read posts 62 and 76. Jenoch Oct 2013 #108

No, the biker pulled in front of him and abruptly slowed down, pnwmom Oct 2013 #167

Their sorry asses are lucky more weren't run over.....i have no pity for the injured one. Gin Oct 2013 #59

check out what these assholes get up to on a "normal" ride... TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #63

Low-life thugs unfit to be organ donors. jsr Oct 2013 #70

I'll assume the linked video is showing riders going in excess of 150mph, or more. kentauros Oct 2013 #155

I cannot agree with you on this. Put a speed limiter on them. But you cannot ban them. Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 #180

I'm not a legislator. kentauros Oct 2013 #198

Thugs Marrah_G Oct 2013 #78

shouldn't all the bikers be arrested ? JI7 Oct 2013 #66

NYPD is trying to find them. Dawson Leery Oct 2013 #67

I just don't see it the way you all do. newcriminal Oct 2013 #68

I'd panic too if thirty people surrounded my car on the West Side Highway nt ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2013 #72

They were attacking him when he drove forward Marrah_G Oct 2013 #74

Exactly they were trying to pull him out of that car before he drove off and over that guy.... NotThisTime Oct 2013 #77

I did watch the videos. newcriminal Oct 2013 #84

I didn't see that in the video either TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #123

Here's the video: NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #134

That video shows nothing new. newcriminal Oct 2013 #141

Doesn't show what? NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #143

This newcriminal Oct 2013 #145

Most of the videos only show the initial breaking of the window with a helmet. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #149

That was after he had already ran over them. Not before! newcriminal Oct 2013 #154

You refer to a description in a reply above that I think is an encapsulation of the whole thing. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #159

I agree with most of what you posted this time. newcriminal Oct 2013 #163

He may have just panicked, too. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #164

No, you would not have. You would do anythiong in your power to protect your family from harm. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #191

So you would give yourself to the mob, taking a beating and maybe surviving. oneshooter Oct 2013 #209

Not only did they not kill him, newcriminal Oct 2013 #216

The "beating" could well have been fatal for all occupants of the truck. I believe that most people ladjf Oct 2013 #210

So.. fitman Oct 2013 #237

Such a beating could be fatal or could leave you with brain damage. And remember, tblue37 Oct 2013 #277

So if they cannot handle being pounded on by 20 to 30 people FrodosPet Oct 2013 #319

They shouldn't have come at him in the first place... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #161

The title to the video RedFury Oct 2013 #377

LOL... good post my friend! like, hello!? Divine Discontent Oct 2013 #148

DD! NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #150

those are just a few clips from the same video from the helmet camera TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #170

I agree with every word. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #171

The bikes were driving wrecklessly, you don't stop dead in front of a vehicle on the Parkway. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #90

No, I never said it is ok to stop in front of the car. newcriminal Oct 2013 #91

Maybe I missed something, there is more than one video. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #92

You must not be watching carefully. newcriminal Oct 2013 #98

As you say, we can't see exactly what happens. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #100

Which is exactly what should have been done, newcriminal Oct 2013 #102

Why didn't "the bikers" take down his license plate Cerridwen Oct 2013 #103

Obviously, the driver was the victim and should not be expected to act normally. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #104

If you meant to reply to me, Cerridwen Oct 2013 #113

Yes. I was agreeing with you. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #115

Thanks for making that clear. Cerridwen Oct 2013 #118

Yes, I'd forgotten about those. And then there are also just crazy people. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #122

Oh yeah. I've had those experiences, too. Cerridwen Oct 2013 #126

I hate that it seems that way. My personal take-- ecstatic Oct 2013 #127

how about a little common Duckhunter935 Oct 2013 #133

Again I agree with that. newcriminal Oct 2013 #138

That's some fu'd reasoning! RedFury Oct 2013 #375

I never said they shouldn't be. newcriminal Oct 2013 #105

No. But not for lack of trying. Cerridwen Oct 2013 #111

After he ran some of them over. newcriminal Oct 2013 #116

Read my reply to NYC_SKP. (#118) Cerridwen Oct 2013 #121

With stitched on his chest and arm also Marrah_G Oct 2013 #327

The driver was in fear for his life and the Jenoch Oct 2013 #112

Really? Jenoch Oct 2013 #109

Appropriate username is appropriate... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #128

he was surrounded by 30 bikers beating on his car magical thyme Oct 2013 #135

Try driving with a baby in the back seat while you're surrounded pnwmom Oct 2013 #168

Where were the cops? delta17 Oct 2013 #75

When not protecting Wall Street jsr Oct 2013 #80

I resent you using the good men of the 12th to describe the NYPD Catherine Vincent Oct 2013 #114

+ 1,000,000 CBGLuthier Oct 2013 #194

I've spoken to Chicago cops who say Barney Miller was the most life-like cop show ever. n/t ieoeja Oct 2013 #330

the police are never around when these thugs are on the rampage TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #283

They were busy stopping random minorities and frisking them. n/t hughee99 Oct 2013 #339

I guess this dude will be a little bit less of a badass riding his wheelchair around Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #86

If this is the same J. Mieses who was injured, then it was really just a matter of time. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #88

He was an aspiring rapper and rapped about thug life, that's him NotThisTime Oct 2013 #94

I wish I were cool like that! JVS Oct 2013 #124

Frankly, I think both groups were wrong. RedCappedBandit Oct 2013 #96

The SUV driver did nothing shameful or illegal. Jenoch Oct 2013 #117

one biker under arrest deliberately caused the initial accident magical thyme Oct 2013 #144

Zero sympathy. The shit they do is deliberate, provocative, and high risk. jsr Oct 2013 #151

Agreed. I watched about half an hour of the videos leading up to the incident magical thyme Oct 2013 #220

Even Helmet Camera Dude admitted that the brake check was deliberate TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #227

I read several articles about it yesterday... magical thyme Oct 2013 #232

That's not what is seen in the video TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #238

I just reread my post from last night. I never said I saw that in the video magical thyme Oct 2013 #259

you made a claim that was disputed by the video TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #278

LAH-LAH-LAH-LAH-LAH-LAH-LAH magical thyme Oct 2013 #280

yeah, and my heart just breaks over that TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #291

LAH-LAH-LAH-LAH-LAN magical thyme Oct 2013 #296

The idiot in the hospital is the one who caused it. MattBaggins Oct 2013 #153

He is not the one in the hospital. newcriminal Oct 2013 #156

I stand corrected on that MattBaggins Oct 2013 #157

I'd have no problem with the driver running over the whole damn lot of them. jsr Oct 2013 #158

You don't terrorize a family AgingAmerican Oct 2013 #183

doesn't matter if there's a baby in the vehicle or not TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #233

One of my favorite sayings... "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes." cherokeeprogressive Oct 2013 #106

To lay any blame for this on the driver of the SUV is ridiculous. Jenoch Oct 2013 #119

I'm not BLAMING the driver. Maybe you missed my saying possibly he'd never been in that situation. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2013 #130

I have never been in a situation either driving a car and being surrounded by Jenoch Oct 2013 #139

Agreed, thank you Duckhunter935 Oct 2013 #136

I kind of hate to see the term "bikers" used to describe these guys. I was expecting brewens Oct 2013 #107

This story appears to shed some light on the Jenoch Oct 2013 #120

WND? They're trying to make this a black biker gang??? NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #125

I don't really know anything about the source. Jenoch Oct 2013 #131

All that is true, they are a lawless lot, but multicultural. Link to SUV running over bike video: NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #137

i believe mezees mother is hispanic , and the crowd looked mixed up different races to me also JI7 Oct 2013 #185

A rainbow coalition of the shitheaded AngryAmish Oct 2013 #226

In the videos I saw riders of all sort of nationalites Marrah_G Oct 2013 #132

Yup, me too. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #152

"Their intent is to intimidate, to harass and to cause an altercation." jsr Oct 2013 #166

wnd? seriously? Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #243

You're a day late. Jenoch Oct 2013 #248

Yeah, it's not like you have any power to edit your post or something... Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #253

I don't generally edit my posts after they Jenoch Oct 2013 #258

The bikers appear to think they're in a Mad Max movie. n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #169

OK, then. Lots of them got killed doing stupid shit in that movie. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #192

my take on this steve2470 Oct 2013 #172

As a daily rider, I can tell you all with confidence that those riders are assholes... Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 #173

Zero sympathy for the guy who was only tending to a downed rider when he too got mowed ecstatic Oct 2013 #176

He chose to ride with that group. I know those kind of groups. Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 #177

To steal from the post above "Play stupid games.. win stupid prizes..." Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #181

Or, "If you act like an ass, don't be surprised when you get kicked." nt Common Sense Party Oct 2013 #241

If you hang out with your stupid criminal buddies, doing stupid criminal shit cemaphonic Oct 2013 #186

Let me try and find some sympathy here... Violet_Crumble Oct 2013 #188

A little info on this jerk, from The Boston Globe. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #193

"Tending to a downed rider" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2013 #211

This group of thugs has a history this type of behavior. Dawson Leery Oct 2013 #217

I would have ran over as many of them as I could! Too bad they didn't try that with an 18 wheeler! B Calm Oct 2013 #195

New Story of Motorcycle Rampage Emerges as One Biker Turns Self In steve2470 Oct 2013 #197

Thanks for adding an update. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #202

most welcome ! steve2470 Oct 2013 #203

To hear J. Meezee's mom tell it, they're just kids doing the normal end of summer thing. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #205

I agree about the extra patrols nt steve2470 Oct 2013 #207

Ok so Lien pulled over WolverineDG Oct 2013 #215

karma Niceguy1 Oct 2013 #201

I witnessed something like this in Los Angeles (without the violence) but Blue Meany Oct 2013 #204

I think the Highway Patrol here in Missouri would be all over something leftyladyfrommo Oct 2013 #208

We have thugs like that in Dallas rainbow4321 Oct 2013 #219

Squids like this deserve jail time and seizure of their licenses and bikes. n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #223

The guy in the hospital has never held a license in the first place - any license NotThisTime Oct 2013 #242

Some of those 4x4's are not even street legal. liberal N proud Oct 2013 #229

Many of the bikes do not have license plates. Dawson Leery Oct 2013 #236

this thread is out of control Liberal_in_LA Oct 2013 #245

Agreed. Too many liberal people posting!!!!! closeupready Oct 2013 #251

I agree. Lots of nastiness on display. morningfog Oct 2013 #254

Yeah, people tend to get emotional when criminals terrorize families with toddlers. cemaphonic Oct 2013 #264

Nothing wrong with encouraging violence and harm to those who deserve it... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #305

I disgree with most of your words. morningfog Oct 2013 #308

I was speaking in general terms... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #317

Agreed. stranger81 Oct 2013 #299

your post astounds me with its bullshit. cali Oct 2013 #366

SHouldn't these Thugs be charged with Terrorism ? JI7 Oct 2013 #247

We on DU are such sensitive human beings. closeupready Oct 2013 #250

Motrocycle rider in road rage video appears in court Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #263

WTF??? TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #288

Yes, “Motorcycle Gangs” Still Exist. No, They Didn’t Attack a Man in New York. steve2470 Oct 2013 #268

Biker freed, charges dropped over Manhattan attack of SUV driver — for now steve2470 Oct 2013 #270

It seems to me that Mr. Cruz bears a great deal of blame for what happened that day. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #281

maybe Bloomberg and the NYPD will do something now, would like to hear from other NYC'ers steve2470 Oct 2013 #282

New: 15 arrests and 55 bikes confiscated? NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #284

ok glad they are doing something, stay safe in your Prius ! steve2470 Oct 2013 #287

i think these people get off on intimidating others , so they don't get that with renting a track JI7 Oct 2013 #298

Yup, I think that's the whole deal. Shame on their defenders. nt NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #301

Agreed nt Duckhunter935 Oct 2013 #302

Taking their chances on that one... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #321

Mr. Cruz sounds like an articulate individual ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2013 #285

A real role model and asset to the neighborhood. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #286

Out for a quiet Sunday drive with his closest friends. Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #335

this other report seems to say Cruz was let go without charge TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #289

Cruz is out on bail. newcriminal Oct 2013 #290

with these conflicting reports I can't tell what the hell is going on TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #294

""F---!" Cruz of Passaic, N.J. yelled at reporters " JI7 Oct 2013 #292

Right, because you never said "Fuck!" in your life. closeupready Oct 2013 #307

not when i was at court with family in public, the guy is a piece of shit JI7 Oct 2013 #313

Biker Arraigned In Manhattan magical thyme Oct 2013 #295

Judge: What was that you said? Bail denied. K.O. Stradivarius Oct 2013 #311

Just glad I live in Florida. flvegan Oct 2013 #316

I think that plays a big part... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #322

Yeah, you'd never see this NoGOPZone Oct 2013 #347

I said likely... you said never... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #356

actually, you said 'just as likely' NoGOPZone Oct 2013 #357

You keep making my points... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #358

I know well what you implied NoGOPZone Oct 2013 #359

Dozens of Motorcyclists Rally After Highway Altercation steve2470 Oct 2013 #320

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See...this is why you don't bring a motorcycle to a Land Rover fight. Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #334

Dammit...I wanted to say that. Captain Stern Oct 2013 #346

Biker suspect identified... TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #367