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In reply to the discussion: Update on the bikers who terrorized a New York City Family. [View all]reflection
(6,286 posts)21. It's really just this simple.
I don't understand how anyone can defend any of these pricks.
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FWIW, I've seen countless kids become fucked-up adults even with excellent parenting...
Blue_Tires
Oct 2013
#9
If Lien had had an automatic assault weapon and sprayed the entire group, would he have been
kelliekat44
Oct 2013
#69
well probuably if he had shot five or six of them the rest would have run away
loli phabay
Oct 2013
#187
better to hope they are not going to beat you and mayby rape your wife then
loli phabay
Oct 2013
#266
and yet when he was stuck later in traffic they dragged him out and beat him
loli phabay
Oct 2013
#269
if he had a gun there is more chance his daughter would have ended up killing herself or someone
JI7
Oct 2013
#271
gun nuts always see things and think about how they would have been the hero with their guns
JI7
Oct 2013
#275
lol, or people who are trained and have experience look at it and use it as a what if
loli phabay
Oct 2013
#276
it is gun nuttery to always view things that happen and think about how they would have been the her
JI7
Oct 2013
#279
depends on whether those thirty people are determined to harm you and your family
loli phabay
Oct 2013
#333
sorry getting beaten and cut is not coming out ahead, the guys that did it only
loli phabay
Oct 2013
#348
well both my principal and my backup are .40 and i use the old hydroshock. lol
loli phabay
Oct 2013
#378
I disagree. In Texas, the bikers would have been armed too and we would have had a shootout
stevenleser
Oct 2013
#340
There are 82 million hits on scores of pages. First few pages are of those two incidents
stevenleser
Oct 2013
#364
Sorry, but those weren't "bikers", they were punks on crotch-rockets, Enduros & 4-wheelers....
Ghost in the Machine
Oct 2013
#52
would be funny to see a confrontation between the NJ punks and a large group of real bikers
Supersedeas
Oct 2013
#304
"So he is flat out lying about that." Wanna see a slashed tire? I'll SHOW you a slashed tire.
cherokeeprogressive
Oct 2013
#303
I'm saying that he drove a long way AFTER his front right tire was slashed.
cherokeeprogressive
Oct 2013
#315
You can see the tire at 3:04 in the video just after it had been ripped off the vehicle
cpwm17
Oct 2013
#332
Good catch about the tire that had come off the wheel at 3:04 in the GoPro2900 video.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#336
It's unclear if the collision even caused him to dump his bike. Possibly, it didn't.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#331
I'm with you. By the way, I found a link with a clip showing the actual running over of bike by SUV
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#129
One person walks up and yanks open the door. Yup, and that's enough to be killed or seriously hurt.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#239
They took over the freeway. They are law-breakers. And they brake checked him.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#249
Beating him after he tried killing their friend proves they were going to beat him up anyway?!?!?!?
ieoeja
Oct 2013
#256
he was trying to get away from them , they surrounded him , there was no reason for the fuckwad to
JI7
Oct 2013
#261
Yup. Pretty much. Normal healthy people do not beat up people who are trying to get away from them
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#262
One person jerking your door open justifies running over a man administering first aid ...
ieoeja
Oct 2013
#255
they were behaving like thugs the entire time , they deserved to get run over or worse , fuck them
JI7
Oct 2013
#257
the Brake Check guy's act was to intimidate him and gang up on the driver, he actually did stop
JI7
Oct 2013
#297
Even if the SUV driver was wrong in how he protected his family (I do not believe he was wrong),
Jenoch
Oct 2013
#318
It started with an accident. The motorcyclist stopped suddenly in front of him.
pnwmom
Oct 2013
#165
I would run them down in heartbeat if I felt my loved ones were in danger.
Gravitycollapse
Oct 2013
#174
The only tragedy is that the other 29 are physically able to ride motorcycles still. nt
geek tragedy
Oct 2013
#11
It's not beating twenty hoodlums with guns...This ain't Hollywood or GTA 5...
Blue_Tires
Oct 2013
#19
Sure...but it's also very, very likely most would flee once shots were fired.
Lizzie Poppet
Oct 2013
#34
Yes, I have encountered Hells Angels and they would literally murder them.
Gravitycollapse
Oct 2013
#178
hope their bikes get rusty while they enjoy the hospitality of a state retention facility
dembotoz
Oct 2013
#22
I watched the video- On instinct, when I started getting intimidated and surrounded...
richmwill
Oct 2013
#27
The one in the coma paralyzed, his family is all over the local news crying saying the driver should
NotThisTime
Oct 2013
#40
yup, local news is totally reporting this in the favor of the damn bikers WTF
NotThisTime
Oct 2013
#44
I see the biker pull in front of him and slow way down while looking behind him.
Marrah_G
Oct 2013
#62
I've seen this before. The bikers likely wanted to stop traffic to stunt on the road.
Gravitycollapse
Oct 2013
#175
Their sorry asses are lucky more weren't run over.....i have no pity for the injured one.
Gin
Oct 2013
#59
I'll assume the linked video is showing riders going in excess of 150mph, or more.
kentauros
Oct 2013
#155
I cannot agree with you on this. Put a speed limiter on them. But you cannot ban them.
Gravitycollapse
Oct 2013
#180
I'd panic too if thirty people surrounded my car on the West Side Highway nt
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Oct 2013
#72
Exactly they were trying to pull him out of that car before he drove off and over that guy....
NotThisTime
Oct 2013
#77
Most of the videos only show the initial breaking of the window with a helmet.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#149
You refer to a description in a reply above that I think is an encapsulation of the whole thing.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#159
No, you would not have. You would do anythiong in your power to protect your family from harm.
Ikonoklast
Oct 2013
#191
So you would give yourself to the mob, taking a beating and maybe surviving.
oneshooter
Oct 2013
#209
The "beating" could well have been fatal for all occupants of the truck. I believe that most people
ladjf
Oct 2013
#210
Such a beating could be fatal or could leave you with brain damage. And remember,
tblue37
Oct 2013
#277
The bikes were driving wrecklessly, you don't stop dead in front of a vehicle on the Parkway.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#90
Obviously, the driver was the victim and should not be expected to act normally.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#104
I've spoken to Chicago cops who say Barney Miller was the most life-like cop show ever. n/t
ieoeja
Oct 2013
#330
I guess this dude will be a little bit less of a badass riding his wheelchair around
Nye Bevan
Oct 2013
#86
If this is the same J. Mieses who was injured, then it was really just a matter of time.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#88
Agreed. I watched about half an hour of the videos leading up to the incident
magical thyme
Oct 2013
#220
I just reread my post from last night. I never said I saw that in the video
magical thyme
Oct 2013
#259
One of my favorite sayings... "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."
cherokeeprogressive
Oct 2013
#106
I'm not BLAMING the driver. Maybe you missed my saying possibly he'd never been in that situation.
cherokeeprogressive
Oct 2013
#130
I kind of hate to see the term "bikers" used to describe these guys. I was expecting
brewens
Oct 2013
#107
All that is true, they are a lawless lot, but multicultural. Link to SUV running over bike video:
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#137
i believe mezees mother is hispanic , and the crowd looked mixed up different races to me also
JI7
Oct 2013
#185
As a daily rider, I can tell you all with confidence that those riders are assholes...
Gravitycollapse
Oct 2013
#173
Zero sympathy for the guy who was only tending to a downed rider when he too got mowed
ecstatic
Oct 2013
#176
Or, "If you act like an ass, don't be surprised when you get kicked." nt
Common Sense Party
Oct 2013
#241
If you hang out with your stupid criminal buddies, doing stupid criminal shit
cemaphonic
Oct 2013
#186
I would have ran over as many of them as I could! Too bad they didn't try that with an 18 wheeler!
B Calm
Oct 2013
#195
To hear J. Meezee's mom tell it, they're just kids doing the normal end of summer thing.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#205
I think the Highway Patrol here in Missouri would be all over something
leftyladyfrommo
Oct 2013
#208
Squids like this deserve jail time and seizure of their licenses and bikes. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Oct 2013
#223
The guy in the hospital has never held a license in the first place - any license
NotThisTime
Oct 2013
#242
Yeah, people tend to get emotional when criminals terrorize families with toddlers.
cemaphonic
Oct 2013
#264
Nothing wrong with encouraging violence and harm to those who deserve it...
Decaffeinated
Oct 2013
#305
Yes, “Motorcycle Gangs” Still Exist. No, They Didn’t Attack a Man in New York.
steve2470
Oct 2013
#268
It seems to me that Mr. Cruz bears a great deal of blame for what happened that day.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#281
maybe Bloomberg and the NYPD will do something now, would like to hear from other NYC'ers
steve2470
Oct 2013
#282