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Autumn

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153. You couldn't convince me the sky was blue if it was a fucking sunny day.
Wed Sep 18, 2013, 10:10 PM
Sep 2013
there's your speculation and fact. You don't discuss issues, you discuss a persons loyalty. To a man who will be gone in what? Three years.
I noticed that too. Here is a leaked draft of the TPP sister, the transatlantic version BelgianMadCow Sep 2013 #1
You know the drill, cali - "it's all speculation" until Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #2
It's speculation until it's "old news." morningfog Sep 2013 #3
Or speculation until its "compromise"... grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #5
or it's speculation until "we can fix it later." magical thyme Sep 2013 #132
At that point, discussing it would be nothing but "shit stirring," right? merrily Sep 2013 #18
Yep. but I'm going to call the Zombie Apologists out on their crap every fucking time cali Sep 2013 #4
My recs shall be with you! Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #6
hey, thanks! cali Sep 2013 #7
May the recs be with you! Mine always is. Thanks for all you do! Divernan Sep 2013 #13
Thank you, Divernan. For everything. cali Sep 2013 #20
Zombie apologists. I like it! It drives me crazy around here, the way RW shit gets passed and we Nay Sep 2013 #33
The Zombie Apologists - glad to finally have a name for them, Raksha Sep 2013 #67
Maybe we should start a fund to deprogram these poor afflicted folks cali Sep 2013 #74
Good idea - it isn't hard to identify them. Raksha Sep 2013 #77
Hear, hear. nt woo me with science Sep 2013 #170
It's all speculation until we figure Congress or Republicans or someone forced him into it. merrily Sep 2013 #14
Pass it now, fix it later. obxhead Sep 2013 #36
+1 proverbialwisdom Sep 2013 #38
Thanks - I left that one off my list of zombie lines. Raksha Sep 2013 #68
The Toilet Paper Pact - wiping their asses with the American dream. grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #143
kick! - n/t Locrian Sep 2013 #8
k&r . . .n/t annabanana Sep 2013 #9
If not enough is known . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #10
Did the Framers contemplate Senate confirmation as a rubber stamp, after the fact? merrily Sep 2013 #15
Agreed. another_liberal Sep 2013 #17
Foresight or hindsight? merrily Sep 2013 #21
I came across this, TheJames Sep 2013 #161
When it finally collapses and leaves corporations destitute..... Rain Mcloud Sep 2013 #11
You think the TPP will leave corporations destitute? merrily Sep 2013 #16
Pity the poor Corporations! BuelahWitch Sep 2013 #90
The planned TPP is more evidence the corporations call the shots in our society.... JohnyCanuck Sep 2013 #12
Yep. Here's a look at Obama's choice: Chief Ag Negotiator for the USTR. Sickening cali Sep 2013 #19
that IS quite sickening G_j Sep 2013 #39
Isn't it though? And this was someone the President CHOSE cali Sep 2013 #43
Aw, Cali. bvar22 Sep 2013 #97
"Hater" tblue Sep 2013 #125
use to think they were just feigning ignorance. come to realize it is willful. KG Sep 2013 #22
by and large, I think it is willful cali Sep 2013 #23
That's true, I think. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #37
epic KG Sep 2013 #41
You have a link for that? pscot Sep 2013 #106
Perhaps some are that unintelligent and easily led, but I assure you I could mimic them and get work Dragonfli Sep 2013 #72
OIW - Because Obama! KG Sep 2013 #88
Hilarious!! beerandjesus Sep 2013 #92
You should post that as a stand alone OP without a "sarcasm" tag! bvar22 Sep 2013 #108
yes. Vanje Sep 2013 #136
Done, let's see if it gets even one rec Dragonfli Sep 2013 #174
11 at this time. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #177
21 now. And from some really STRONG Obama supporters too! Number23 Sep 2013 #178
Just as I suspected. Some Obama supporters are satire impaired. It's something that cannot be cured. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #179
It was implied that if that person made that into an OP, it would get recs presumably from Number23 Sep 2013 #182
Rec AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #171
Done Dragonfli Sep 2013 #175
I just tried but found I am forbidden to post in GD due to my answer to a nuisance poster Dragonfli Sep 2013 #173
Done, finally: Dragonfli Sep 2013 #176
Well said, Dragonfli! Good Read! KoKo Sep 2013 #114
I have a serious soft spot for smar asses. cali Sep 2013 #120
Excellent post! nt adirondacker Sep 2013 #162
I think that some try to make their lives easier by choosing to believe some things with blind faith rhett o rick Sep 2013 #119
They are unable to discern principled opposition to the President Maedhros Sep 2013 #121
I think they can discern. They use comparison of opposition to something terrible rhett o rick Sep 2013 #127
The sociopaths that have been cultivated dotymed Sep 2013 #32
Secret negotiations with secret (Corporate) provisions .... unhappycamper Sep 2013 #24
Secret negotiations with secret (Corporate) provisions... bvar22 Sep 2013 #109
From "They Thought They Were Free: The Germans 1933-1945" by Milton Mayer Maedhros Sep 2013 #122
Chillingly on point! Sounds like the Zombie bible! Divernan Sep 2013 #142
Human behavior doesn't change that much over the span of only a few decades.[n/t] Maedhros Sep 2013 #163
Sounds a lot like the MuseRider Sep 2013 #129
Kicked and Recommended! nt Enthusiast Sep 2013 #25
We studied it a bit in school laundry_queen Sep 2013 #26
K & R AzDar Sep 2013 #27
K & R !!!!!!! djean111 Sep 2013 #28
K&R AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #29
AnotherMcIntosh we do. dotymed Sep 2013 #49
"1%" is, of course, a shorthand expression for the elite rich and the super-rich. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #54
I agree. dotymed Sep 2013 #169
I thought investors were suppose to take risks to reap financial rewards... KansDem Sep 2013 #30
You just hate Obama. WilliamPitt Sep 2013 #31
When you're right, you're right, and this hits it right on the head. K&R 11 Bravo Sep 2013 #34
"Nobody could have anticipated....." Roland99 Sep 2013 #35
This. blackspade Sep 2013 #40
Good thread, cali. woo me with science Sep 2013 #42
And none of the trade agreements since NAFTA have had provision on labor rights and the environment. pampango Sep 2013 #44
the problem is that even if it does have some protections cali Sep 2013 #46
If "they are", I agree with you. pampango Sep 2013 #48
The burden of proof is on Obama to reveal proposals & his position on same NOW! Divernan Sep 2013 #52
I think it is equally plausible that Obama is keeping provisions that House republicans will hate pampango Sep 2013 #56
I think a simple majority of both chambers is unconstitutional. Divernan Sep 2013 #65
That may be but it is the procedure used for all trade treaties. pampango Sep 2013 #76
The flaw in your theory Kermitt Gribble Sep 2013 #135
Yes, he's posted this same stuff elsewhere dreamnightwind Sep 2013 #164
1000%! Protections/regulations are worth shit when: Divernan Sep 2013 #50
Good Points, "Divernan"! KoKo Sep 2013 #113
You apparently enjoy a) lying and b) propaganda brentspeak Sep 2013 #147
Thank you for this post dreamnightwind Sep 2013 #165
once something is law it's hard to change. price gouge drug prices have to be stopped Sunlei Sep 2013 #45
At least TPP supporters are easy to spot. Anyone with a Wall St portfolio. raouldukelives Sep 2013 #47
Not everybody with a stock portfolio is in favor of the damned shitty trade deal. Chan790 Sep 2013 #64
They may not be, but every dollar in the markets is a vote of confidence for more of the same. raouldukelives Sep 2013 #81
There is no other place to put money short of RE speculation. Chan790 Sep 2013 #82
Well, I seriously beg to differ that RE specualtion is worse than Halliburton. raouldukelives Sep 2013 #172
And the Jury voted 0-6 to LEAVE IT. Autumn Sep 2013 #51
HAH! Take that, Zombie alerter! Divernan Sep 2013 #55
Lol. I knew "Zombie Apologist" was likely to get some people in a lather cali Sep 2013 #58
It certainly did get someone in a lather. Autumn Sep 2013 #60
Wow. They tried to get this deleted, huh? Marr Sep 2013 #62
The censorship system defeated ...need this to happen more often. L0oniX Sep 2013 #70
Hah...someone alerted and got voted down. Raksha Sep 2013 #75
They have no argument. Ridicule and the rofl emoticon is all they have. They must rhett o rick Sep 2013 #128
Excellent post cali - TPP needs to die. nt TBF Sep 2013 #53
Great post, Cali Oilwellian Sep 2013 #57
I didn't realize there were any defenders of the TPP. Raksha Sep 2013 #59
Good post cali! MuseRider Sep 2013 #61
Seems that Cryptoad Sep 2013 #63
seems like you haven't a clue as to what you are talking about, honey. cali Sep 2013 #66
LMFAO perfect. n/t L0oniX Sep 2013 #69
Sorry Cryptoad Sep 2013 #71
sorry, but it's not merely speculative cali Sep 2013 #73
But cali. It is speculative. Until it's done Autumn Sep 2013 #79
YOu can not be against something before it exist Cryptoad Sep 2013 #83
You can keep your head in the sand Crypttoad. Autumn Sep 2013 #85
I'll just wait until AFTER the Keystone Pipeline is in place.... Vanje Sep 2013 #141
Yall will be far more convincing Cryptoad Sep 2013 #148
You couldn't convince me the sky was blue if it was a fucking sunny day. Autumn Sep 2013 #153
I wish I was as smart as you,,,,,,, Cryptoad Sep 2013 #154
You might get there. Autumn Sep 2013 #155
geeez,,,,,, Cryptoad Sep 2013 #157
that's ridiculous and none too swift. cali Sep 2013 #104
Do you feel better if you personally attack other posters.? Cryptoad Sep 2013 #149
Says the person who calls others "Obama haters" in this very thread neverforget Sep 2013 #151
you dont believe there are people who hate Obama......? Cryptoad Sep 2013 #158
you accused others of doing what you have done all the while complaining neverforget Sep 2013 #159
another red herring Cryptoad Sep 2013 #168
Let me ask you this, did you support ACA before it "existed"? cui bono Sep 2013 #112
Beautiful takedown :) Celefin Sep 2013 #123
No it would be impossible.... Cryptoad Sep 2013 #145
....and you can't criticize a Fed nominee, before he's been nominated..... Vanje Sep 2013 #139
but nobody has be nominated..... Sure you can criticize people you dont want to nominated Cryptoad Sep 2013 #146
You're working very hard. Vanje Sep 2013 #152
Thank you Cryptoad Sep 2013 #156
Please help, I'm confused. beerandjesus Sep 2013 #94
Actually it's because you are a libertarian isolationist Rand Paul worshiper - Dragonfli Sep 2013 #103
Depends Vanje Sep 2013 #140
"whining Obama Haters" WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2013 #78
Are you saying the author of the linked post is an "Obama Hater"? rhett o rick Sep 2013 #86
Did I say that? Did you threaten me ? Cryptoad Sep 2013 #87
derp,,,,,, bvar22 Sep 2013 #101
could it possibly be performance art? KG Sep 2013 #107
If only. I think it's a bad attempt to start a fight. I dont have anyone on my ignore list but rhett o rick Sep 2013 #116
I love you for this, bvar22! smokey nj Sep 2013 #115
lol. damned near a perfect summation. cali Sep 2013 #118
The question was not directed at you..... Cryptoad Sep 2013 #150
Just because someone points a gun at your head doesnt mean they will shoot. Be patient and rhett o rick Sep 2013 #80
Is that a threat? Cryptoad Sep 2013 #84
it's called a metaphor. yikes. cali Sep 2013 #91
I think that's a little hard for some to make the connection. Autumn Sep 2013 #96
It's hard because "blind faith" is the easy way out. No thinking required. nm rhett o rick Sep 2013 #100
and if the "hair-on-fire" crew every gets something blocked by massive, embarrassing outcry MisterP Sep 2013 #89
How is "you don't know that" and "it's speculation" a defense? joshcryer Sep 2013 #93
When it allows one to say "Bullfuckingshit." ProSense Sep 2013 #95
lol. you seem put out. what a shame. cali Sep 2013 #98
I've already ProSense Sep 2013 #99
uh, no. you really didn't and virtually no one is buying what YOU peddle. cali Sep 2013 #102
Oh, some people are buying what "YOU peddle" ProSense Sep 2013 #105
Prosense, have you ever been forclosed upon due to joblessness? livingwagenow Sep 2013 #126
Who are you, and what do your questions have to do with my point? ProSense Sep 2013 #130
TPP is poison. Thanks for raising awareness. knr nt livingwagenow Sep 2013 #110
Leo Gerard was just talking about this on the Ed show - Unions say "NO" to TPP! NRaleighLiberal Sep 2013 #111
Recommend! KoKo Sep 2013 #117
. blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #124
K&R! Phlem Sep 2013 #131
Recommended thread, cali... MrMickeysMom Sep 2013 #133
The good news is - all the scorn and scathing put-downs by those who believe everything Obama does djean111 Sep 2013 #134
Don't tell me; tell your Congress critter. No TTP, NO fast track authority. Vincardog Sep 2013 #137
Amen. nt silvershadow Sep 2013 #138
The Toilet Paper Pact - wiping their asses with the American dream. grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #144
The CORPS... nikto Sep 2013 #160
K&R. Thanks for posting this. JDPriestly Sep 2013 #166
Well, Hell. What is he thinking? juajen Sep 2013 #167
kick woo me with science Sep 2013 #180
197 Recs. woo me with science Sep 2013 #181
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