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In reply to the discussion: Being liberal on social issues yet subscribing to a corporate controlled economic vision [View all]hfojvt
(37,573 posts)75. when it comes to upper class versus lower class
the dividing line is the median income.
I still say the white unionists were counting the money, because they were generally well ABOVE the median income, expecting to do well with Reagan's tax cuts. And the "counter culture" was long passe by 1978, even in rural South Dakota.
The exit polling bears me out on the income factor. It was greed far more than racism. Simple greed. If they hated blacks and hippies so much then they should have voted for Ford in 1976, and they didn't.
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Being liberal on social issues yet subscribing to a corporate controlled economic vision [View all]
cali
Sep 2013
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The left must bring back an explicit platform of economic justice to win back working-class whites
meow2u3
Sep 2013
#7
Oh right. Because social issues -- gay rights, women's rights, etc. -- have nothing to do with
pnwmom
Sep 2013
#17
Psst...did you forget about a man who stood up for union rights AND civil rights?
alp227
Sep 2013
#48
I Believe He Was Shot, Sir --- Early Summer Of '68, If Recollection Serves
The Magistrate
Sep 2013
#66
Yep. Social issues are important but not a substitute for economic fairness. nt
GoneFishin
Sep 2013
#49
I agree they "walk hand in hand." So why put one of the "hands" on the back burner? n/y
pnwmom
Sep 2013
#52
Women are the majority of the population, and when you toss in gay people and minorities,
pnwmom
Sep 2013
#68
OK - you know what - I'm sorry. I guess I'm just an insensitive bad person for not
el_bryanto
Sep 2013
#73
And I agree with all that - political issues aren't an either/or thing for me.
el_bryanto
Sep 2013
#81
+1 the idea that social issues are frivolous and unimportant is an idea only
LiberalLoner
Sep 2013
#64
dope-smoking Republicans (they believe that laissez-faire PREVENTS monopoly, so...)
MisterP
Sep 2013
#69
I blame working class whites because they succumbed to Reaganomics and bought into the idea
Liberal_Stalwart71
Sep 2013
#12
Not all of them. Some of them voted in the 2008 Democratic primaries and supported Hillary Clinton
Liberal_Stalwart71
Sep 2013
#28
Yes, that too. Tom Frank's "What's the Matter With Kansas" should be required reading!
Liberal_Stalwart71
Sep 2013
#23
Where's the evidence that working class whites, as a group, "succumbed to Reaganomics?"
YoungDemCA
Sep 2013
#77
Where did I assert that working class whites are a monolith? I didn't. But to deny that the Democrat
Liberal_Stalwart71
Sep 2013
#92
Of course you can't believe that I'm that naive. You are just nitpicking, trying to pick a fight.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Sep 2013
#98
I have a hard time believing that after reading your first post. It is exactly what you posted.
Taitertots
Sep 2013
#111
Please. Give it up. No one else had an issue with my post but you. You have a problem because
Liberal_Stalwart71
Sep 2013
#113
The economy IS a social issue which is why when conservative claim they are losing on social issues
Johonny
Sep 2013
#14
Economic justice, social justice, neither will happen until we address the Root Cause of why
Dustlawyer
Sep 2013
#25
Really, the party that wrote federal jobs bills, veterans jobs bills, anti outsourcing bills,
JaneyVee
Sep 2013
#31
The pending TPP is not an "anti outsourcing bill". It is not a "veterans job bill;" it fact it
AnotherMcIntosh
Sep 2013
#36
You're right, THOSE bills were blocked by the opposition party...over and over again.
JaneyVee
Sep 2013
#40
Author and like minded thinkers always give Repubs a pass. It's like reading the Green party TOS.
great white snark
Sep 2013
#67
You're right. You've convinced me. We need more lip service from politicians.
AnotherMcIntosh
Sep 2013
#87
However more socially liberal nations seem to do better economically overall
Fumesucker
Sep 2013
#104
A good course in political history will show that Liberalism and Capitalism (Adam Smith)
Agnosticsherbet
Sep 2013
#46
You could say that, but when the Democratic Party allowed black people into the party
Agnosticsherbet
Sep 2013
#88
Every paper in America has a Business Section but there's no Labor Section....
Spitfire of ATJ
Sep 2013
#51