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I don't get that either. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #1
Unfortunately, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2013 #2
The left must bring back an explicit platform of economic justice to win back working-class whites meow2u3 Sep 2013 #7
We can win economic justice LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #11
it Is Not That Easy, Ma'am, To Win Back The Lost Ground The Magistrate Sep 2013 #16
You are on a roll, Sir. defacto7 Sep 2013 #102
Oh right. Because social issues -- gay rights, women's rights, etc. -- have nothing to do with pnwmom Sep 2013 #17
+infinity (nt) LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #35
Well we are wining on social issues zeemike Sep 2013 #63
Psst...did you forget about a man who stood up for union rights AND civil rights? alp227 Sep 2013 #48
I Believe He Was Shot, Sir --- Early Summer Of '68, If Recollection Serves The Magistrate Sep 2013 #66
+:) grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #100
+a billion (nt) jeff47 Sep 2013 #13
it was not the working class that gave us Reagan hfojvt Sep 2013 #53
Very Well Paid Blue Collar Workers, Sir, Were The Union Members The Magistrate Sep 2013 #57
the white working class has never been all upper class hfojvt Sep 2013 #70
Upper Class, Sir, Is Hardly Even Prosperous Working Class The Magistrate Sep 2013 #71
when it comes to upper class versus lower class hfojvt Sep 2013 #75
No, Sir, it Is Not; Upper Class Is Wealth The Magistrate Sep 2013 #78
Amen to that! kentuck Sep 2013 #62
It was also Vietnam... socialist_n_TN Sep 2013 #94
True, Sir, And The Left Acquired A Name For Anti-Patriotism The Magistrate Sep 2013 #96
Sop - that is it, exactly. djean111 Sep 2013 #3
Yep. Social issues are important but not a substitute for economic fairness. nt GoneFishin Sep 2013 #49
No truer words. jsr Sep 2013 #4
Greater social freedom LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #5
I agree that economic issues are more important than social issues el_bryanto Sep 2013 #6
Economic issues are more fundamental than equal rights? pnwmom Sep 2013 #18
Not sure how to respond to this. el_bryanto Sep 2013 #24
If you are going by that logic LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #34
I certainly agree that they both need to be supported el_bryanto Sep 2013 #38
I agree they "walk hand in hand." So why put one of the "hands" on the back burner? n/y pnwmom Sep 2013 #52
I don't think I argued that you should el_bryanto Sep 2013 #55
If to be "bad on civil rights issues is generally immoral" pnwmom Sep 2013 #58
Because they effect fewer people el_bryanto Sep 2013 #61
Women are the majority of the population, and when you toss in gay people and minorities, pnwmom Sep 2013 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalLoner Sep 2013 #72
OK - you know what - I'm sorry. I guess I'm just an insensitive bad person for not el_bryanto Sep 2013 #73
I didn't mean to beat up on you. My anger is over a whole spate of posts LiberalLoner Sep 2013 #74
another +infinity post! (nt) LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #80
And I agree with all that - political issues aren't an either/or thing for me. el_bryanto Sep 2013 #81
That seems reasonable! Didn't mean to jump on you. LiberalLoner Sep 2013 #85
+1000 Starry Messenger Sep 2013 #91
I wasn't trying to shame you; I was trying to have a discussion with you. pnwmom Sep 2013 #79
Well presumably that's because I have a guilty conscience. nt el_bryanto Sep 2013 #82
+1 the idea that social issues are frivolous and unimportant is an idea only LiberalLoner Sep 2013 #64
Depends on the issues in question, and what you mean by "important". Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 #86
... doesn't work, there is no such thing as "economics free" politics. bemildred Sep 2013 #8
Economics=Politics TBF Sep 2013 #9
That's how I view many of today's libertarians OneGrassRoot Sep 2013 #10
dope-smoking Republicans (they believe that laissez-faire PREVENTS monopoly, so...) MisterP Sep 2013 #69
I blame working class whites because they succumbed to Reaganomics and bought into the idea Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #12
Sure things have changed! jeff47 Sep 2013 #15
Not all of them. Some of them voted in the 2008 Democratic primaries and supported Hillary Clinton Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #28
Don't blame voters. The Democrats fucked up leftstreet Sep 2013 #19
Yes, that too. Tom Frank's "What's the Matter With Kansas" should be required reading! Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author ieoeja Sep 2013 #27
+ A gazillion. Plus they don't like us wimmin taking "their" jobs either. LiberalLoner Sep 2013 #65
Uh-huh!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #93
Where's the evidence that working class whites, as a group, "succumbed to Reaganomics?" YoungDemCA Sep 2013 #77
Where did I assert that working class whites are a monolith? I didn't. But to deny that the Democrat Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #92
The title of post #12 Taitertots Sep 2013 #95
Of course you can't believe that I'm that naive. You are just nitpicking, trying to pick a fight. Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #98
I have a hard time believing that after reading your first post. It is exactly what you posted. Taitertots Sep 2013 #111
Please. Give it up. No one else had an issue with my post but you. You have a problem because Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #113
Lol, get called out for racist broad brush attacks... Taitertots Sep 2013 #114
The economy IS a social issue which is why when conservative claim they are losing on social issues Johonny Sep 2013 #14
Nailed it. Scuba Sep 2013 #20
Corporate controlled messaging is the primary reason. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #21
+100000 Don't mistake propaganda woo me with science Sep 2013 #26
+100000 to your post as well. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #29
We are in a propaganda deluge. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #107
...and yet some people still call it the Democratic party. n/t L0oniX Sep 2013 #22
Economic justice, social justice, neither will happen until we address the Root Cause of why Dustlawyer Sep 2013 #25
True. PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #30
If they are anti-capitalist they are, at a minimum, a socialist....... socialist_n_TN Sep 2013 #97
Really, the party that wrote federal jobs bills, veterans jobs bills, anti outsourcing bills, JaneyVee Sep 2013 #31
The pending TPP is not an "anti outsourcing bill". It is not a "veterans job bill;" it fact it AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #36
You're right, THOSE bills were blocked by the opposition party...over and over again. JaneyVee Sep 2013 #40
bwahahaha. that's your defense of the TPP? cali Sep 2013 #41
Who's "defending" the TPP? Poster was putting words in my mouth, I showed JaneyVee Sep 2013 #43
German military uniforms can be made in any of about 30 countries and yet pampango Sep 2013 #45
Author and like minded thinkers always give Repubs a pass. It's like reading the Green party TOS. great white snark Sep 2013 #67
Isn't that 'pretty much' the definition of libertarianism? n/t Dawgs Sep 2013 #32
Paying lip service to social issues is not adequate. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #33
That's not how economics works, you know. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 #83
You're right. You've convinced me. We need more lip service from politicians. AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #87
The problem probably doesn't have a solution, sadly. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 #90
Nice post. Thanks. n/t pampango Sep 2013 #89
I agree 100% Cali raindaddy Sep 2013 #37
Trade-offs BKH70041 Sep 2013 #39
well that was lame. what the hell sense did that make? None cali Sep 2013 #42
Made perfect sense to me Recursion Sep 2013 #44
?? BKH70041 Sep 2013 #47
However more socially liberal nations seem to do better economically overall Fumesucker Sep 2013 #104
A good course in political history will show that Liberalism and Capitalism (Adam Smith) Agnosticsherbet Sep 2013 #46
Sorry for nitpicking LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #84
You could say that, but when the Democratic Party allowed black people into the party Agnosticsherbet Sep 2013 #88
That was a thing of beauty. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #108
Democrats? I'd rather say people under 35, alp227 Sep 2013 #50
Every paper in America has a Business Section but there's no Labor Section.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #51
To me the odd thing is tilting things so heavily against small businesses. dkf Sep 2013 #54
The OP is dead-on right Populist_Prole Sep 2013 #56
Good observation. K&R nt 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author friendly_iconoclast Sep 2013 #60
That's called being a libertarian, and it's pretty dumb. Laelth Sep 2013 #76
Frankly, most social issues are tied to the economic issues. Bake Sep 2013 #99
Economic liberalism is liberalism. Deep13 Sep 2013 #101
TPTB gladly give us social issues while they take over the world. cui bono Sep 2013 #103
Reagan firing the air traffic controllers was a defining moment michigandem58 Sep 2013 #105
Social issues depend on sound economic policy RedCappedBandit Sep 2013 #106
Seems to be? It's twenty years in. PeteSelman Sep 2013 #109
clearer eyed words are rarely spoken Agony Sep 2013 #110
The Clintonites MFrohike Sep 2013 #112
...or Matt Damon gets thrown under the bus. nt Agony Sep 2013 #115
"Liberal on social issues" LWolf Sep 2013 #116
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